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Chapter 105 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Mar 13 2010, 03:55 PM
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Oh my God... The HQ scan is amazing! It was like it was REAL HQ. Thanks Levive and Michiyo-!

And 67 pages. Amazing.

There are no words for the Scar and Wrath fight. It was that epic and awesome and glorious.

I am now waiting for scalation of the chapter.


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post Mar 13 2010, 04:07 PM
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You knoww, I always held the belief that out of all the villains in that manga, the only competent ones were Kimblee and Bradley, and that without them the whole would have been torn apart like ten volumes sooner. And this last chapter just renforced that belief. I mean, why did Bradley lose? Because Father wanted to go all shiny and tore a freaking hole in the roof of his own lair laugh.gif
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QUOTE (Sannom @ Mar 13 2010, 06:07 PM) *
You knoww, I always held the belief that out of all the villains in that manga, the only competent ones were Kimblee and Bradley


Kimblee? Competent? Ahahaha, no.

Think about it. He failed pretty much everything he set out to do. Didn't kill Scar, didn't kill Edward, didn't get Edward to carve the crest of blood (he had to do that himself, so I guess he succeeded there), and got killed unceremoniously by a nobody and swallowed up by Pride.

Don't compare Bradley to that loser.


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post Mar 13 2010, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Sannom @ Mar 13 2010, 04:07 PM) *
You knoww, I always held the belief that out of all the villains in that manga, the only competent ones were Kimblee and Bradley, and that without them the whole would have been torn apart like ten volumes sooner. And this last chapter just renforced that belief. I mean, why did Bradley lose? Because Father wanted to go all shiny and tore a freaking hole in the roof of his own lair laugh.gif


On top of what penguintruth said I'd like to add in, what about Pride/Selim? Apart from getting trapped in that big dome, getting hit by a car and now losing his power to regenerate... I forget my point. Either way, Pride has been pretty competent in his own way, so was Lust in all fairness as well. Only reason she even died was because Envy and Gluttony screwed up.


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QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Mar 13 2010, 06:39 PM) *
Only reason she even died was because Envy and Gluttony screwed up.


No, Lust screwed up by not killing Roy when she had the chance, choosing to let him suffer. And because she screwed up, and Roy wasn't killed, Envy later suffered from that.

It could be argued, however, that she wouldn't have even been in that position if the military took extra steps to guard Lab #3.

But enough "if". My point was that Kimblee, while pretty badass in his way, did end up kind of a screw up. Bradley was a constant threat, even if he did end up losing. It took everything several characters had to finally do him in.


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post Mar 13 2010, 05:23 PM
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True

Back onto the chapter and looks like Pride didn't even get grazed by the spikes. Which is good.
I also think this chapter's extra pages helped make it even more awesome and cleared up alot.
I also like dr goldtooth's cameo lol


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post Mar 13 2010, 06:46 PM
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Thanks Levive and Michiyo~

Page by page view here at photobucket.

LordofC - I forgot Mangahelpers did that...


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post Mar 13 2010, 06:57 PM
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There's already a page-by-page view at Mangahelpers.
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post Mar 13 2010, 07:56 PM
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Thank you, Rena-chan, for scanning and providing this super high quality raw! Just finished reading it *fully* and well, nothing much to say other than "Can't wait for Chapter 106!" <3


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Thank you everyone who brought the links to the RAW and other page by page views.

Does anyone know what the purpose of the other alchemy circle on page 62?

I wonder if the chapters are getting longer because FMA is finishing up and Arakawa doesn't want to draw it out for more months. Or she wants it to end at a certain number.
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QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Mar 13 2010, 09:46 PM) *
Page by page view here at photobucket.

Thank you, Causmicfire!! biggrin.gif
I can sooo use that!! Also, hope you don't mind I added that on the first post. ^^

As for the content, I'm ecstatic! Awesome chapter!!

I'm assuming the scanlation people have been kindly working hard so that they can bring the chapter scanlation as fast as they can, and hence it would show up anytime now.... ?? ^^ At any rate, I would be updating ad editing my translations based on the HQ raw later tonight. And, I 'm sure HisshouBuraiKen can kindly bring his translations any minutes now.... ETA: and it arrived as we speak. XD

QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Mar 13 2010, 11:46 PM) *
Does anyone know what the purpose of the other alchemy circle on page 62?

uh.. sort of like connecting Amestris Alchemy to Xing Alchemy so that Ed and others can start using Amestris Alchemy again...


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post Mar 13 2010, 09:58 PM
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Page 0 (GanGan Cover):
Red text: Leave everything to me!

Page 1:
Side: The young brothers ponder the idea of a "perfect being." Could it be proof that God exists?
Ed: The sun represents the male...
The moon, the female.

When the sun and the moon merge, they will become a single creature that's both male and female...
In other words, the perfect being.

Al: You think "perfect" means "immortal" here?
Ed: Naah...
Gotta be something bigger than that.

Al: Bigger than IMMORTALITY?
Ed: Yeah...

Like godhood.

Pages 2-3:
Text: The devourer of truth sits in his throne as if he were God himself.
Title: On God's Throne

Page 4:
All small bubbles: babum
May: You turned the people of Amestris into a stone...
to suppress...God?

Izumi: You sacrificed them all...
Roy: Over 50 MILLION people live in this country...

May: F-Fifty...

Father: My thanks, dear sacrifices.

You've fulfilled your roles admirably.

Page 5:
All small bubbles: babum
Hohenheim: ...Everyone stand next to me.
Father: There is no longer any need for your alchemy
or for you to open the gate.

SFX: tap

SFX: Fwaaaaaa

Ed: Kh-
SFX: Clap

Page 6:
Ed: ....!
I can't transmute anything!

Father: Farewell, my sacrifices.

SFX: bzzrt

SFX: crack

Page 7:
SFX: BOOOOOOM

Page 8:
SFX: CRAAAA
Darius: NOW what?!

Page 9:
SFX: BABABABABABABABA

Hohenheim: Stay by my side!

Page 10:
Small bubbles: babum
SFX: dodododododododo

Bubble: Tap

SFX: KRAKOOM

Page 11:
SFX: mshmshmshmshmshmshmsh

SFX: dodododododo
Hohenheim: Kh-
Nngh-

Everyone...please...
Lend me your power!
Souls: Get 'em Hohenheim!
Take my strength!
Yeah!
Take my life!
Don't lose!

Father: Well well.
For a philosopher's stone of maybe half a million souls, you impress me.

But your true enemy is time.
SFX: tap

Page 12:
Ed: ....!
SFX: clap

SFX: mekimekimekimekimeki

Father: With all your efforts focused on defending the attack from above, you're left with no way to dodge a strike from below.

Ed: Damn it...

Page 13:
Ed: Alchemy isn't working!
SFX: KABOOM

SFX: RRRRRRMMMMM....

Page 14:
SFX: crack crack crack

SFX: Crumble crumble

SFX: creeeeeak

SFX: Shiiiiiii

Page 15:
SFX: KZRRRRRRRRRR

Al: May!
May: I'll keep our feet safe, Alphonse-sama.

Page 16:
May: Rentanjutsu users are masters of controlling the ebb and flow of the ground's energy!

And the more power there is...
the more I have at my disposal!
SFX: FWOOOOOSH

Page 17:
Small bubbles: babum

Father: I wanted to avoid destroying this place...
But I can always reconstruct it afterwards.
SFX: shwuuuuuu

Hohenheim: Wha-
You can't...that's a-
Father: Indeed.

SFX: Kuooooooooo
Father: With the power of God at my command,
I can create a sun in the palm of my hand.

Page 18:
Small bubbles: babum
Hohenheim: A sun...
Nuclear fusion...

SFX: KIOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Father: Begone,
alchemist.

Page 19:
SFX: BABUM

SFX: BABUM BABUM

SFX: BABUM BABUM
FatheR: Hm-
Ah-

SFX: BABUM BABUM

Hohenheim: Noticed it now?
That slow, steady heartbeat that's been beating this whole time...

Page 20:
Hohenheim: The souls of this country's citizens are still linked to their bodies by a thread we've come to call the "spirit."
Like a mother and child still connected by the umbilical cord.
SFX: BABUM BABUM

Hohenheim: They don't belong to you yet!

Father: What have you done, Hohenheim?
SFX: BABUM BABUM

Hohenheim: I've planned and prepared for this day for years.

And part of my plan had me take part of the philosopher's stone...No...
Some of the comrades inside me, and hide them in the earth's soil.

Page 21:
SFX: BABUM
Souls: It's time.

That flask homunculus guy has crossed the line.

Our souls no longer have bodies to return to, but the souls of the people of Amestris DO.

Mmm...
it's time to use our own souls.

Yes, we must guide the souls of Amestris back to their bodies.

Yes!

"The circle" will only be activated for a split second,
stay sharp.

We'll peel their souls away from his body!

Page 22:
SFX: BABUM BABUM BABUM
Father: I don't know what you're trying to pull, but you say you inserted the Philosopher's Stone into a specific point?
So what?

Even if you were to transmute them, without a proper circle nothing will happen.
Hohenheim: Oh I've GOT a circle.

When the time comes, they'll activate on their own.
SFX: BABUM BABUM

Hohenheim: And when it does, an UNFATHOMABLE power
will rain down from the heavens!
SFX: gogo

Page 23:
Hohenheim: The solar eclipse will cast the moon's shadow...

The umbra!
SFX: zuzuzuzuzuzu

Souls: Time for us to go,
Hohenheim.

Page 24:
SFX: crack

SFZ: BABUMBABUMBABUMBABUMBABUM

Father: You still resist me, Hohenheim?!

Hohenheim: That's why I'm HERE, my tiny friend in the flask!

Pages 25-26:
Hohenheim: The moment you absorbed your so-called "god" was the exact moment our counterattack began!
SFX: KZHHHHH

SFZ: ZUUUUNNN

FatheR: Nh-
SFX: gakgakgagkak
Hohenheim: The bond between body and soul is nothing short of miraculous.

You need an incredible amount of energy to forcible separate them...
but the reverse is easy.
You need only release the soul.

If the body still exists, whole and unspoiled, it will simply call the soul back.
Like a magnet.
SFX: DOBOOOOM

Page 27:
Darius: Oh, what the HELL?!

Soulnado: UOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAA

SFX: SHOOM SHOOM

SFX: SHOOM SHOOM

Page 28:
SFZ: BABUM

Bubbles: Nnh...
Agh-
Whoa...

Page 29:
Baby: WAAAAAAAAAH

SFX: waaaah
Mom: Ow...
SFX: crack

SFX: chatter chatter
Bubble: khack-

Falman: Everyone okay?!
Bubble: COUGH
Soldier: Zeeh zeeh

Breda: What happened...
SFX: khck-

Page 30:
Guy: Is everyone all right?
Soldier: Yessir!

Baldino: ...I'm alive...

SFX: BABUM

SFZ: BABUM BABUM BABUM

Pinako: Winry!
Everyone! Are you all okay?!
Bubble: cough cough
Winry: Hhhhck-

Page 31:
Winry: What...
was that...

Guy: Did we all just pass out?
You too, Ms. Pinako?
Pinako: Yeah.

Guy: But what...
Guy2: I can't even describe it...

Winry: It was like I was drowning in a whirlpool of pain and suffering...!

Page 32:
SFX: BAZRRR

SFX: babum babum
Hohenheim: The souls of the men and women of Amestris have returned to their rightful vessels.

And the remaining souls you have from Xerxes can't contain your so-called "god."

SFX: BABUM BABUM
Flask: Hrmm...

Releasing this in my current state would be a risky gambit.
SFX: huoooooooo

Page 33:
SFX: CLAP

SFX: Shfff

Hohenheim: Buagh!
Al: Dad!
Ed: May, you okay?!

Hohenheim: Haha...
Now what?!

Page 34:
Hohenheim: You can barely keep your little "god" contained inside your body.

SFX: twitch twitch twitch
Father: I still have all the necessary resources...
All I need is another Philosopher's Stone.

There are millions more...billions more.
The world is rich with humans...with fuel.
SFX: Zrt

Page 35:
SFX: ZU-

SFZ: GUOOOOOO

Page 36:
Greed: A tornado!
Hohenheim: Do you have control over the weather now too?!
May: Sir, in front!

SFX: BANG

SFX: bababababababa
SFX: bababababababa

Page 37:
Hohenheim: Rrgh-
I can't counteract it quickly enough!

SFX: Skrrrk

SFZ: twang

SFX: BABABABABABABABABA

May: Come on, sir!
The ground is crumbling!

SFX: TAP

Page 38:
SFX: BWANG
Hohenheim: Ah-!

Hohenheim: It's too much...
I can't push it back...

SFX: Whap

SFX: Thud

Page 39:
Al: Come on, dad!

Ed: Don't quit on me,
you old bastard!

Page 40:
SFX: shakeshakeshakeshake

Hohenheim: Good lord, look at me...

SFX: gugugu
Hohenheim: I may have been a terrible father...

But I can at least show my boys something cool!
SFX: GUOOO

Al: If this takes any longer HIS Philosopher's Stone will run out!

Page 41:
Ed: Come on...

HURRY, SCAR!
SFX: SHOOM

Page 42:
SFZ: gagagagaga

SFX: Swish

SFX: Slice

SFX: WHAM

Page 43:
Bradley!: ISHVALAN!

SFX: Swoosh

Bradley: Is alchemy...

Is alchemy not anathema to the almighty creator, Ishvala?!
Have your abandoned your god?!
SFX: DON

Page 44:
SFX: skree

SFX: SLICE

Scar: Kh-!

Page 45:
Scar: NUOO!
SFX: CRACK

Bradley: Is god so small in your people's eyes?!

SFX: thwapthwapthwapthwap
Bradley: No!

Somewhere in your heart, the horrors of that war planted a seed of doubt! You know part of you believes it!

Page 46:
Bradley: There IS NO GOD!

SFX: shinnnnng

Bradley: Wha-

Pages 47-49:

Page 50:
SFX: SLASH

Page 51:
SFX: THUD

Bradley: Heh heh...
I never believed in gods or an almighty...
But I believe the phrase here is "God has forsaken me," yes?

SFX: step

Page 52:
SFX: step

Bradley: Heh...
The heavens sent down a most fitting spectator.

Page 53:
SFX: Step

Bradley: Come to avenge your grandfather.
Of course.

Ranfan: Any last words?

Bradley: None!

Ranfan: You've lived such a sad life, homunculus.
Did you never love any of them?
Your friends, your comrades?
Your wife?

Page 54:
Bradley: My wife, eh...

Ranfan: Are there NO parting words you would leave her?
When she learns you were a homunculus-
Bradley: Don't let foolish words such as "love" and "sad" pass your lips, girl.

Remember who I am.
I CHOSE that woman.

My relationship with IT requires no "last words."

That is how things are kings
and their partners.

Pages 55-56:
SFX: turn
Bradley: Mmh...

Your silly questions cost you your chance at vengeance, girl...

I lived my life within the rules outlined for me...

But thanks to you humans...
Yes...
Towards the very end
It was

a good life.
A life worth living.

Page 57:
Scar: Whew...

Ranfan: Hmm?
I still sense life in him.

Page 58:
Scar: Philosopher's Stone.

Ranfan: THIS?!
Scar: That man was carrying it before they turned him into a lump of flesh.

Bradley snatched it during the fight-
GHARCK!

Ranfan: You okay?!

Scar: Help me...
Take me to that spot over there.
Bubbles: Huu
Haa

That spot is supposedly the center of this all.

Page 59:
SFX: Slump

Scar: Brother...

I can't deny that the hatred I've carried in me all these years remains.
Yet I'm trying to save the object of that hate...
Amestris.

You spoke of the "negative flow" and "positive flow..."

Page 60:
Scar: Both are now inside me, conflicting and contradicting one another...

SFX: SLAP
Scar: I can only guess where the flow will lead to...

Page 61:
All SFX: BAKI

Ishvalan: Wagh!

Page 62:
All SFX: BACHI
Ishvalan: Here it comes!

Page 63:
SFX: ZUNNN

Hohenheim: NOW!!!

Page 64:
SFX: BOOOM

SFX: paaaan

Pride: Nh-

Page 65:
SFX: BOOOM

Page 66:
SFX: CRAAAAASH

Ed: Suck on that...
Sitting on your throne acting all high and mighty...now it's DUST.

Page 67:
Ed: You've gotten away with too much, you freak.
Text: Alchemy is revived! The counterattack begins!
Ed: I'm gonna take you AND your stinkin' truth
and KICK YOUR ASSES!
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Thank you, HisshouBuraiKen. smile.gif

Yeah, it's totally awesome chapter!! ^^ (But hard for the translators. ^^)

And, to avoid this becoming one line post, I will fill in more of my thoughts here, and on my next post just in a while. ^^)


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Thanks! Wow, awesome! (Those missing pages really did make a difference...)
...Holy nukes, Batman!
This chapter was indescribably awesome...


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QUOTE (Tombow @ Mar 14 2010, 12:07 AM) *
Thank you, HisshouBuraiKen. smile.gif


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