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Episode 47: Messenger Of Darkness - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 47 episodes
Chiyo
post Mar 6 2010, 01:15 PM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 3. smile.gif


Please post the discussions on the content of episode 47 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 47 episodes.

Screenshots: see Omni's post.

Full Screenshots: over at livejournal, provided by Moogledaime

Summary: Ed and his group go to see Hohenheim. He tells them about the Promised Day, and Ed tells Hohenheim Trisha's last words to him. As Ed and his group leave, they run into Al. However, after a warning from Lin, it is revealed that Al is being controlled by Pride. Pride first gets the upper hand, but Ed responds by blacking out the slums and taking away the light so that Pride cannot use his shadows. Heinkel uses this opportunity to find and attack Pride, but Ed, Greed, and Darius are then attacked by Gluttony. Greed, having a disadvantage in the dark, agrees to switch places with Lin, who uses his homunculus detection abilities to fight Gluttony. As Gluttony starts to use his full power, he is overwhelmed by the arrival of Lan Fan, who is now equipped with automail - provided by Wikipedia.

Extra Note: Please don't ask for links on where to watch this episode. Discussions on 'where to watch' belong in Where/How to Watch FMA Series 2. Don't post screencaps unless highlighting something important about the content of the episode.


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post Mar 7 2010, 01:28 AM
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My initial thoughts:

- Ed's punch is lulz.
- Oh Ed, you're hilariously hostile!
- Aww, Hoho crying
- Trisha ;_;
- Boom, instacoat!
- How is Pride speaking with Al's voice? Did Envy give him lessons in mimicry?
- Oh Selim, looking as spiffy as you do in your little vest, how can anyone hate you?
- Gluttony is also adorably creepy. Like Boo in DBZ.
- Bah, Ling returns to control.
- New music heralds the return of Ranfan!

Decent episode. It'll probably be better when I can see it in better quality.

Next episode: Ed actually does something!


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post Mar 7 2010, 01:32 AM
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- Ed & Hohenheim reunion. And a punch. smile.gif
- And now Ed knows the truth about him.
- Trisha and Hohenheim flashbacks. And Hoho is crying.
- Al with Pride’s eyes and shadows is really creepy.
- New PSP and Gangan CM!
- Where’s the new music?
- Surprise attack from Heinkel!
- Ling is back again.
- Ran Fan! And finally the new music.
I want the next episode now. The animation looked really good from the preview.


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post Mar 7 2010, 01:33 AM
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I'm still amazed of how punctually shows start in Japan. In Poland it's like a roulette, you don't know if it's going to start 5 minutes earlier or 5 minutes later.

- Oh, the manga scene, "Alphonseee.... staaay focuuus" loved it!
- Edo, punching your own father? how rude!
- Oh noes, it's dark! Bad sign! But I love the lighting and shadowing here.
- Trisha! Somehow I really do sympathize with her.
- Evil Al is evil. The scene was intense.
- Another Greed eyecatch? Love it though.
- "The promised day" game commercial, great music.
- New Gangan commercial? Nice cover.
- Time to fight! I love the animation so far.
- Chimeras strike!
- And the new music from last week's preview.
- Beating a child like that? Oh wait... it's not Selim anymore it's not selim anymore...
- Gluttony!
- hahahaha, poor Ed, pwned by Darius.
- Ling! I'm glad he's "back" I really missed his VA.
- no, is thaaat..... yeeeess....
- RAAAAAAAAAN FAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I can't even find words to describe how good that scene was and how glad I am that she's back.
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post Mar 7 2010, 01:48 AM
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Ranfan's comeback with music which was in one of previews lately was totally kickass. I loved whole episode, but Ranfan made me fangirling so hard aaand... man that was awesome.
And I almost cried when saw Hoho crying :<


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post Mar 7 2010, 01:59 AM
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WOW at the episode. it's awesome!!
my thoughts

- Ed's punch is... cruel.. biggrin.gif
- Hohenheim's cry... T.T
- Trisha!!! I WANT TO BE YOUR DAUGHTER, really.
- what is that?? an instant-coat? cool.
- eeh.. pride can use al's voice? hmm
- selim looks freaking hott!
- yay for ling!
- new music for the come back of ranfan!! awesome!

hmm.. a bit OOT but anybody notice? after the first screen-shot, then there are ads. *so many FMA ads*, and one of them is shonen gangan's. it's about this month's cover/edition. is it just me or i saw ed, sitting (i think), half naked (again, i think.), with a ver ver very very sexy face as the cover???? or it's just my fatamorgana? =_______________=


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post Mar 7 2010, 02:12 AM
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shanry - actually, that part in spoilers can be explained here thanks to amestris and Michiyo. Please discuss it there not here, that means everyone.


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post Mar 7 2010, 02:39 AM
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Screenshots and Impressions: http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2010/03/07...brotherhood-47/


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post Mar 7 2010, 02:51 AM
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My thoughts:

-Nice punch there. Ed
-Hoho crying... and the music... T___T
-Hoho and Trisha's flash back... ;A;
-OK. GLUTTONY IS SERIOUSLY CREEPING ME OUT
-WHY THE HECK does Selim could use Al's voice?
-YAY FOR THE AWESOME LING.
-YAY~ NEW ARABIAN MUSIC~~
-YAY FOR RANFAN'S RETURN~!! and that tornado.

overall, Nice episode biggrin.gif


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post Mar 7 2010, 09:03 AM
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Err episode was all around good but not quite as good as I'd hoped from last week's preview. The best animation from the episode was in the preview, most of the rest was a bit more static than I'd expected and I wasn't as impressed with some scenes as I thought I'd be. I can see next week's episode is certainly going to make up for that though.

It's funny that even though he's just been reintroduced, Next week will be Gluttony's last episode
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post Mar 7 2010, 10:35 AM
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Not surprised at the animation quality of this episode. It's done by episode 37's animators (that explains why Pride doesn't look scary). Next episode's preview brings hope for that, though. Anyway, it's only the beginning of all the action, so I guess it'd be better to get all the low animation out of the way first, right? (Though ep 49 seems to be done by ep 19/38 so *shrug*)

I noticed this in the screenshots. I think it's laughable, Pride's facial expression in particular.

Does anyone know whose arm was reaching out to Alphonse? Was it Trisha?

And of course Lanfan makes an awesome return with the new music.

But next episode? I am glad I didn't get too happy to see Gluttony back.


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post Mar 7 2010, 11:50 AM
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(to avoid getting bashed again.. )

Really liked the ep. I am glad they are paying attention to the small details in the manga for some things. Ed's hair still seems so unstable, some times its long sometimes its not, sometimes its epic!
I am having a hard time hating pride he looks too cut as a little boy in his vest and when Heinkle was attacking him it was more "aww noo..." haha. When Ed got punched by donkey i cringed that HAD to hurt epicly. Can't wait for the next ep when Ed gets to do some action. The animation looks fantastic, they seem to be spending all of their money on those type of scenes like the Wrath/Greed fight. Phenomenal animation. It feels like Al was captured more in the manga but it's probably because thats monthly and much slower. They made it just as creepy. very creepy. Hate to see this opening go- its been one of the best openings in all the FMA series (even the first).

I am so looking forward to gluttony getting eatin, things are getting interesting!!
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QUOTE (mandymtt @ Mar 7 2010, 07:50 PM) *
sorry for being totally random- but where did you get the pics for your banner i love them!!!!!!! Sooo cute. A japanese site?


It's highly inappropriate to ask such questions in any unrelated topic, my advice is using PM for such things.

Now, about the episode:

I watched it with Polish subs and I don't know if they're 100% accurate, but I will base some my opinions on them.

-It was more static than I thought, but good nevertheless,
-"Alphonse-kun...",
-"I want to go inside you",
-I see a lot of things are taken straight from the manga. Good. They finally learned, at the end,
-I like how Ed reacted to Hohenheim's story, even Hoho remarked that Ed was more shaken than Alphonse was. I see a tiny methamorphosis of their relations in here,
-Scene with Hohenheim crying was done better than in manga, less humorous content, more feelings attached. Ed looked guilty. ("So daddy really loved mommy after all. Huh."),
-"It's not that, he just surprised me" was nice too. Sorry, I'm such a sucker for Ed and Hohenheim relationship. I really wish they would come to terms at the end of the manga,
-"Tommorow, Trisha" - So that means Hohenheim really wants to die in the Promised Day. Meh, if he does, let it be something really heroic,
-The scene with Al is basically all manga with very tiny changes, which I don't mind,
-Grunman being Greedy? And I thought he was somewhat noble one,
-Yay for Ranfan.

Good episode.


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post Mar 7 2010, 04:01 PM
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I loved the episode. Lanfans return was made of epic win. And I was so happy they kept in Gluttony tripping over that log. I love him.
I loved how Ed was shoving food into his face. Made me laugh.
YAY awesome song. It fit so perfectly.
I got emotional when I saw Hohenheim crying.
I LOVE how they animated Greed switching to Ling. It was pretty awesome, and it's good to have Ling back.

I'm pretty pumped for next episode. Preview looks promising.

My one complaint on this episode was the animation. There was a part when Darius was talking to Ed and the QUALITY was so amazing I cringed. I'll get a screenshot and post it later.

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The quality wasn't like this for just a moment. It actually continued for a while. During the whole conversation they were having.


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And Pride is as creepy as ever, this time he's screwing with Al's mind instead of Riza's! laugh.gif

Aww, the moment when Ed looked over and Hohenheim was crying was so sweet and emotional. That's right Hohenheim, real men cry! Make sure you pound that lesson into your son! I don't care what anyone says, Hohenheim and Trisha are the best pairing in FMA.

I'm having trouble not staring at Darius and Heinkel's muscles... tongue.gif

Possessed Alphonse will now haunt my nightmares! You know there's something wrong when the animators give Al extra attention and the creepy music starts playing.
Ed's alchemy, especially when he was shutting down the lights, was awesome! Lol, even Hohenheim's fire of sadness went out! The utter silence after the lights go out is a nice effect.

YAY LANFAN! What else can I say? Besides that Chuck Norris couldn't even do better.

I didn't notice the QUALITY a lot, but I'm sure it was in there somewhere. (It's always just lurking around the corner...)


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