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Episode 37: The First Homunculus - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! May contain spoilers for the first 37 episodes!!
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post Dec 20 2009, 12:21 PM
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sorry for a little offtopic. It's about Hawkeye design of Bones.
She's too great to be drawn perfect, that's why Bones can't do it biggrin.gif.
Her eyes in this episodes were... well... killing me again. But her grin, when Pride scratched her, was superb.


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post Dec 20 2009, 12:23 PM
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My main problem with the Pride scene is the ridiculous art when he says "I am the original homonculus, my name is Pride". The manga panel is fantastic:

http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/70/39/

This frame below however is an absolute mess! It's completely overdone. I can tell they wrapped the shadows around Selim to make it explicitly obvious he was the one controlling them but it looks stupid!

http://randomc.animeblogger.net:8000/image...0Large%2019.jpg
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post Dec 20 2009, 12:29 PM
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- Kimblee looked okay to me for the most part.
- Winry's seems hair look shorter in this episode. And her eyes got REALLY BIG in a couple of scenes.
- |D I liked Ed's freakout.
- The whole Pride thing has room for improvement, but I guess it wasn't bad - although there were some weird angles. And what was with that thing over his face? I think it would have been better if they used it as a cliffhanger
- It still baffles me how the animators are able to draw Alphonse perfectly symmetrical in every episode and yet they still haven't really nailed Riza. Come on, you guys can do it! She's actually important in this series!
- Next episode preview looks nice - finally, some action xD
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post Dec 20 2009, 01:08 PM
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Now that I rewatched the Pride scene, it's not all that bad, but I can't help but think of the woman villain from CoS after passing through the gate to Amestris when I see Pride in this shot.


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post Dec 20 2009, 02:17 PM
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I really liked this episode but the animation's a little funky.



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post Dec 20 2009, 02:29 PM
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Dramatic beginning! That's always a good sign, right? Aww, Winry made Buccaneer blush! (She's so cute in that scene she could make me blush... wub.gif )

And I don't care what anybody says, Selim can still scare me! That scene gave me the shivers, with the cold, cold lighting and Hawkeye's expressions. It may be not the same as the manga, but anybody who hasn't read the manga will probably still think this scene was cool. It scared me more than the manga did, really. tongue.gif

The talk between Ed and Kimblee was pretty good for just a conversation, you know? Ed can make the best facial expressions of any character by far! Winry was looking pretty angsty too, in the cell. And I must agree the Alphonse eye narrowing thing was neato.

As always, I can't wait for the next episode!


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post Dec 20 2009, 03:03 PM
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Yeah, apart from what I said earlier about Bones not drawing Riza very well, I did enjoy the Pride scene. And black~hayate, I agree that Riza's face when Pride scratched her was spot on.

Can't wait for next episode! This little Pride/Briggs arc is one of my favorites in the manga smile.gif (My absolute favorite would be the ending arc of the manga, the one we're in right now, but I have a long wait before that gets animated!)


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post Dec 20 2009, 04:24 PM
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Okay I'll do my opinions in full when I see the sub but when people were saying how underwhelming the Pride scene was, I decided to check out that scene in the raw and...

I disagree

I think it was perfectly creepy, the fact that Pride's normal voice is that weird one we heard before (which I thought was just gonna be used when all we could see was his shadow) just helped make the scene even creepier. The camera work tracking the shadow creeping up towards Hawkeye was great.

Only flaws I could find were the shadows on the face as mentioned and the moment Pride cuts her cheek. Maybe it's me but I always imagined him doing that slowly to create more pain. But maybe I misunderstood.

Eitehr way thrilled to see Pride, yayayaya


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post Dec 20 2009, 06:01 PM
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycloped...le.php?id=11972

hearing Jelso voice(one of kimbly's men, the african american one), looks like a another voice actor from FMA1 came back and voice someones else. Breda FMA1 seiyuu is now voicing Jelso and cant wait to hear the other chimera voice. I'm crossing my fingers for Ryotaro Okiayu voicing someone.

anyway, I understand people not liking how the episode protray the character faces but its unique in anime I learn to appericate the different directors from the really good ones to the not so. I remember how differ the animation can be in dragonball z.
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post Dec 20 2009, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Dec 20 2009, 04:24 PM) *
Only flaws I could find were the shadows on the face as mentioned and the moment Pride cuts her cheek. Maybe it's me but I always imagined him doing that slowly to create more pain. But maybe I misunderstood.


I'm 100% positive it was meant to be that way. The drawing suggested that the shadow was moving slowly, however with how fast they paced the scene in general I don't think they really cared.

I keep looking at that damn shot of Pride when he states who it is. It really is horrible. The eyes and teeth are all over the place and look a complete mess. Some of the teeth are even jaggy instead of square, which doesn't happen until he absorbs Gluttony.

They're also stupidly drawing the eyes and teeth moving outside of shadows at some points (like in that shot there's a curious eye in the wall). That should never happen, because it cant.
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post Dec 20 2009, 09:25 PM
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What the hell. When's this anime gonna start looking BETTER?



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post Dec 20 2009, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE (JELEE @ Dec 20 2009, 10:25 PM) *
What the hell. When's this anime gonna start looking BETTER?

Epic Fail.

I did like the scene though, so no complaining for me. (plus I already did a ton of that a few pages ago.)


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post Dec 21 2009, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE (JELEE @ Dec 20 2009, 10:25 PM) *
What the hell. When's this anime gonna start looking BETTER?

Riza looked scarier than Pride in that pic dry.gif


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post Dec 21 2009, 03:02 AM
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And I have no idea what are you complaining about. Loved almost everything about that episode btw.


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post Dec 21 2009, 06:31 AM
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QUOTE (JELEE @ Dec 20 2009, 10:25 PM) *
What the hell. When's this anime gonna start looking BETTER?

I think she looks more like a muppet there than anything else. (Anyone else remember Guy Smiley?)
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