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Episode 33: Northern Wall Of Briggs - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! May contain spoilers for the first 33 episodes!!
Jealous Rogo
post Nov 24 2009, 12:52 AM
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You know, after last week's stretching, this week's stretching and by the looks of it maybe more stretching next week, I somehow get the feeling Arakawa has given BONES a call and said 'WHOAH THERE, SLOW DOWN' cause they were rocketing along before. Perhaps they're in danger of catching up with the Manga too soon or something. Either that, or they wanna get the most of out of Kimblee (and who could blame them?). All the added material this week, like last week, was nice and everything but I have to admit it just stood out as stretching more than anything else. It took Kimblee something like a page or two to figure out where Scar was headed, in Brotherhood it's taken him an episode and a half. Also since when does Scar leave behind transmutation marks? That didnt make much sense to me, but maybe it's just me being thick.

And what was with that random flashback to Ed and Al remembering the one time it snowed in Resembool? That's the sort of thing I'd expect from the first series. It stood out to me, much like the stuff with Kimblee, as just weird stretching for time. What's more I didn't find it a particularly funny or interesting flashback. I DID however, like the scene of Ed and Al carefully walking down the icy steps. That felt pretty realistic and was well animated.

Seeing Kimblee fight Scar was awesome, and it highlights Kimblee's weaknesses, after showing his brilliant mind. He's TOO smart, he overthinks and ended up getting speared because of it. It also points out that Scar has been fighting for a long time, meaning he's very strong (hence why the military are having problems with him, he was dangerous enough during Ishbal where he could take out five troops on his own). Also the performance of Kimblee's VA was awesome. I love how his voice quivers when he's talking about dying. I always felt Kimblee got off on death almost literally, and his VA really sold that. Considering Kimblee has one of my all time favourite lines in the series, I am so glad he's got a good actor playing him.

Buccaneer, was awesome to see but his VA felt flat. I always imagined him sounding alot gruffer and not so... old? He just seemed off. I like that Ed's alchemy doesn't work here and yet we're not given an explanation (and wont be til next week at the earliest). I don't know why but it just stood out to me. I think it's because in most animes (FMA being guilty of this as well) you'd have had Buccanner give a looooong speech about his automail. Which he sort of did but not to the extreme. I also think the scene with Al losing his head in front of Buccaneer and his men shows a massive difference in the Briggs troops. They dont even flinch, in fact they barely acknowledge it. Brigg's soldiers are tough.

Oh Olivier! I'm pretty pleased with her voice. It's strong, harsh and really told you everything you need to know about the queen of the badarses right from the off. I'm glad that they also kept her threat to Ed, especially as it was really an aside joke in the Manga that could've easily have been cut. Only criticism I might levvy at the appearance of Olivier, was it sort of ended about five minutes after the logical end. It should've ended, in my opinion, on when Olivier teared up the letter. If not then, at least on the antenna joke. It just seemed weird to have it end on Ed's observation on how massive Briggs is. Especially as this was the second time he'd done that.

All in all not a bad episode, everything is set up now for us to get into some of the best arcs in the entire series. It was reading these volumes that made me think a second anime would be something awesome. I loved all the Manga, but these arcs are when it really comes into it's own for me, though I'm sure there are people that disagree with me.

Next week: hooray Sloth appears! And he has normal skin tones! Huh, I have always pictured him with pale white skin. I have clue why cause of COURSE he has a normal skin tone. Weird. I hope his voice actor does him justice, Sloth's speech pattern is possibly another reason I love this arc. Also was the music for the preview this week a one off or the new preview for now on? Cause I LOVE it. If it's a one off, I really hope that's like 'Olivier's theme' or something because it fits her really well.

Also I predict more stretching next week, why? Because of what I said the beginning. I think they're slowing down because they're in danger of lapping the Manga. Which would just be hilarious.

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OT: And as a small aside, why do people keep calling her Olivia? I understood the confusion sort of when we only had fan translations to go on, but we've had Viz to go on for a while, and now her name has appeared in massive letters on screen in the eyecatch as Olivier and yet people still insist on calling her Olivia? It's not even like it's like Lin/Ling, Olivia and Olivier are two different names, from what I understand. Normally I don't get bothered by things like this (I switch around on Ling and Ran Fan alot) but this just seems odd to me.


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post Nov 24 2009, 09:09 PM
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This is the part of the manga that I don't remember much, since I always thought it was a little boring. Yeah, I'm slow, it took me a while to understand the whole reverse-transmutation circle? concept. Don't get me wrong, I thought Olivier was the most badarse character in the whole series, I just didn't start really loving her until some of the more recent chapters. tongue.gif

SO the filler scenes didn't feel like stretching to me. I actually thought they were all included in the manga until I saw this board.
But my favorite part of this episode is Ed's butt abuse and Al knocking Ed in the face with a snowball. Probably because both happened to me. And aww, the Risembool kids looked like anime South Park characters having a snowball fight.

Kimblee's pimp suit is amazing.
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post Nov 24 2009, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Nov 24 2009, 03:52 AM) *
And what was with that random flashback to Ed and Al remembering the one time it snowed in Resembool? That's the sort of thing I'd expect from the first series.

You say that like it's a bad thing. tongue.gif One of the things I love about the first series was that they took time to notice those little things, those tiny moments of humanity. Whether it was the brothers playing a simple game of cards, or a memory of their childhood, it was something small and special that made you smile and care about them a little more. Maybe it's silly or unimportant, but I personally found it very refreshing to have a moment like that in this episode. Ed and Al are legendary figures, and they carry dark, heavy burdens. It's nice to be reminded that even they had playmates and snowball fights, once upon a time...however short that time was.

It's funny...snow has a way of turning people into little kids again. There aren't a lot of things in this world that can do that to you. biggrin.gif


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post Nov 24 2009, 10:35 PM
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It will come across as nitpicking, but is there any necessity to including a recap of the previous episode for this episode? I think they've done it a couple of times before, and I didn't say anything, but it just feels like more filler here, because they're obviously stretching volume 16 out.

Speaking of filler, I have to be honest, I didn't mind it in this episode. There was still that nagging in the back of my mind that they crammed all of volume 15 into one episode in favor of this stuff, but it didn't make me angry like last episode's filler. Watching Edward and Alphonse arrive in North City, in awe of the snow, was a nice touch. I even sort of liked the bits with Kimbley.

What the hell is it about Scar that nobody can effing defeat him? Doesn't he seem a little overpowered? For Ishbala's sake, the guy's been chased by almost the entire military, including various State Alchemists, and he's come out with barely any injuries, except by the homunculi. And why don't the homunculi just gather and kill him as a team? That they've failed so consistently really takes away from their presence as a threat, and makes Scar look like some uber-god. That Kimbley, who can blow anything up, failed so badly is mind boggling. I don't care how rusty he is. He can blow things up by touching them. His failure is embarassing to watch.

Just shoot him! SHOOT HIM!

The big draw of the episode is Olivier Mira Armstrong and Buccaneer. Does anyone find it funny that guy who uses a weapon called the Crocodile is voiced by a guy who voiced a character named Crocodile? Olivier's voice, by the way, is perfect for the character, and gave me chills, in a good way. She's a damn fine woman. I can't wait for her to really throw her weight around.

She was one of the big reasons I decided to continue watching this show after the disasterous treatment of the Dublith arc. I knew if I stuck with it, I'd eventually get to Olivier. I may tear up from happiness.


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post Nov 24 2009, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (penguintruth @ Nov 24 2009, 11:35 PM) *
It will come across as nitpicking, but is there any necessity to including a recap of the previous episode for this episode?

Heh, that struck me as funny too. "Hey, it's the return of the opening recap narration! ...Here to recap their own silly padding."

I guess they just couldn't bear to let us forget that brilliant scene in which Scar escapes arrest by standing around until a train conveniently passes through, complete with heavy smokescreen.
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post Nov 26 2009, 07:16 AM
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But I am not interested in such a topic! So I will complain here about the official subtitles making her middle name "Milla".
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post Nov 26 2009, 11:17 AM
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Am I the only one who was somewhat underwhelmed by the episode? Not a big fan of the voice of Olivier (can't quite place why, though) and the whole Scar/Kimblee scene was a -lot- shorter than I remember it being.
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post Nov 26 2009, 03:51 PM
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I was a bit underwhelmed by this episode too, but not as much as I was about last week's. To be honest, I thought the only memorable part of the episode was the introduction of the Briggs crew.

-The recap and all the scenes with Kimblee just seemed like more unnecessary filler to drag things out because they didn't add anything to the story. I don't care much for Kimblee, so whether we see more of him or not doesn't matter to me.

-I wasn't that impressed with the train fight either. I don't know why, and I can't really explain it, I just felt there was something missing. Also, I'm with penguintruth in that Scar seems ridiculously overpowered.

-I did however, like all the scenes with Ed and Al. Seeing North City and all the snow was pretty cool. Just in time for Summer laugh.gif I liked that they showed Ed slipping on the steps, and his automail freezing up. It's a nice touch and adds some realism to the story.

-Garfiel scares me blink.gif

-Yay, Buccaneer!

-Yay, Olivia! I loved her voice biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I remember I didn't really like her much when I first read these manga chapters. It wasn't until later on that she started to grow on me.
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post Nov 27 2009, 09:35 AM
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^ haha for me just in time for winter!

Lots of people have been saying they were underwhelmed by the train fight, I don't really get why though, I havn't read that part in the manga in a long time but I don't think they changed it...I thought it was good, and it's not really a omg action packed scene in the manga anyway


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Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 33 (on CN on Adult Swim) talk-back/discussions here. smile.gif

FMA:B will air 1:00 AM - 1: 30 AM and 5:00 AM - 5:30 AM eastern time. smile.gif


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post Feb 20 2011, 03:27 PM
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As previous posters have said, this episode does seem to be rather full of filler. I don't really care for Kimblee, so I wasn't too interested in the extended Scar hunting scenes with him. I did like Ed and Al's reaction to the snow. They lived in the east, so they couldn't have had much snow before. I live in the south, so I can totally relate to their amazement at all the snow.

Ed's battle with Buccaneer seemed to be less intense than in the manga. I don't really know why. It just didn't seem as exciting. Olivier was good, pretty much what I expected. I don't like her as much as a lot of other people do, so I don't really have any strong opinions on her. I liked that they kept her threat to Ed, but I noticed they changed it. Instead of ripping his cowlick antenna off, Olivier said she was going to cut him to pieces or something. Not quite as funny, but still good.

Overall, it was a decent episode, but nothing great.
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happy.gif I loved the part when Ed fell down the steps because my friend did the SAME thing like, right before watching this with me.

Also, when Al peggged Ed in the face withe the snowball during the flash back, I laughed sooooo friggin hard!!! (we had a snowball fight ourselfs because there was snow on the ground when I watched that episode, weird enough.)


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For anyone who missed this episode, it airs again on Adult Swim (U.S.) tonight. smile.gif


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For anyone who missed this episode, it airs again on Adult Swim (U.S.) tonight. smile.gif


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