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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 5.
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Okay a lot cut, but I do personally think people are overreacting a tad... alot of what's cut (specifically everything involving Kimblee and Winry's parents) will almost certainly comeNo id up again in the future. Other stuff (like the role of Fesler) was cut because it wasn't important, and the rest was cut but what stood in it's place did pretty much the same job, just alot more subtley (everything involving Hawkeye's back). I think the way the Ishbal flashbacks have been handled haven't been perfect, and I think I'd preferred them to have been lumped together like they were in the manga, but I then also remember that the manga still exists and is still sitting on my desk.
Yes it would've been nice to see the whole thing animated, but beggers can't be choosers, and alot of people pretty much begged for this new series, which is, if anything, an animated cliffnotes of the original manga. I also think it's rather amusing to watch people complain abou tthings being removed and changed in the tiniest ways here, when their are mangas and books that have been adapted and been pretty much gutted by the people adpating them (Harry Potter ring any bells?)
Now I'm not saying this episode was perfect, no, but it did a pretty good job of editting down a massive bulk of material to one episode and still getting the same basic message across; that Hawkeye, Mustang, Armstrong and everyone else in the military, are basically preparing their own nooses by trying to overthrow the military. I think it's something that's easily forgotten, but these characters we know and love are murderers in the eyes of many, and are not destined to end up living happy lives. It's a powerful message, one you rarely see as well, and I can forgive them cutting scenes that are almost certain to come up again in the future, to keep that message alive and well.
I officially love Kimblee's new voice; it's absolutely perfect. His scenes were also cut down, but they cut it down to show the bare minimum and get across the two sides of Kimblee's characters. The soft-spoken, charming gentlemen that speaks to Hawkeye and Mustang (yeah he was being a jerk, but he was a gentlmen about it) and then the insane, poetic mad killer that kills Scar's family. The shaking in his voice as he describes the sensation was just awesome.
Hmmm so they changed the Ishbalan soldiers to just generic Ishabalans, but I'm not too bothered about that.
Okay about... five or six people have said some variation on 'Why did they cut Mustang burning Hawkeye's back when it's in the opening' and while I'm surprised they did cut it and think it should've stayed, I also say 'bwuh? it's in the opening?!' because after those comments I've watched the sucker over and over and I cannot see it ANYWHERE. So can someone point out to me where it is? Cause clearly I'm going blind or something.
Now for the most interesting thing of the episode to me, which not many have mentioned: didn't Al and May's conversation seem tacked on? I mean really tacked on, like it didn't fit in this episode? Like they added it at the last minute? Like maybe they didn't animate it originally? Like maybe they HAD to animate it? I'm not saying that's what happened, but I am reminded of JK Rowling forcing the director to put Kreacher back into the Order of the Phoenix film, so maybe Arakawa told them the scene needed to be animated?
Of course if they hadn't, all of May's adoring Al stuff would have to be cut and er... I think that needs to be there.
Anyway not a great episode, I am disappointed with some cuts, but I also have confidence alot of it will come up again in the future (I can almost take a guess at the exact point some parts will be put in) I also just wanna point out again that despite all the changes this series has had, you gotta remember that we're really lucky the changes have a. been so minor and b. are taking place in the second series of a manga that's already been adapted. There are fans of other mangas that got terrible adaptions that are probably sick with envy right now.