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Episode 28: Father - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! May contain spoilers for the first 28 episodes!!
Tombow
post Oct 17 2009, 10:49 PM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 5. smile.gif


Please post the discussions on the content of episode 28 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 28 episodes.


* Where to watch this episode

* HD Screen caps of this episode to be posted on this link address sometime later


* Episode Preview from FMA-2 official JP site:
(Translation by Tombow, with episode title from official sub on Funimation.com)
Episode 28: "Father"
Guided by Gluttony, Al and Xiao Mei arrive at "Father"'s lair. Just then, Gluttony's stomach suddenly opens up, and Ed, Ling, and Envy emerge from inside Gluttony's stomach.
While they are celebrating their reunion, Father arrives, and Ed and Al are shocked to see that Father's appearance is almost identical to that of their own father, Hohenheim.
Father welcomes Ed and Al, but he orders Homunculus to kill Ling. Ed and Al try to protest, but with Father's mysterious power they find themselves unable to perform Alchemy, and all three get held down by Homunculus. Father tells that "Greed's seat is vacant," then takes out a Philosopher's Stone from his body, and approaches Ling....







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Episode Summary: (To be filled)


Characters in this episode: (To be filled)


Locations: (excluding review and preview scenes, to be filled)


Sound Track info for this episode that's known to us so far: (To be filled)


FMA manga reference: To the readers of FMA manga (To be filled)


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post Oct 17 2009, 11:48 PM
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Hey there-

You mentioned not being able to open up the jp website for the episode summary. Here it is:

第28話「おとうさま」
グラトニーの案内で「お父様」の所へ着いたアルとシャオメイ。その時突然グラトニーの腹が裂け、中からエド、リン、エンヴィーが現れる。再会の喜びも束の間、彼らの前へ現れたお父様の姿に驚くエドとアル。その素顔はなんと兄弟たちの父、ホーエンハイムにそっくりであった。お父様は兄弟たちを厚く手当てするが、リンに対しては殺せとホムンクルス達に命ずる。反抗する兄弟たち、だがお父様の不思議な力で錬金術が使えなくなり、リン共々押さえ込まれてしまう。そしてお父様は「グリードの席が空いている」と言って体内より賢者の石を取り出し、リンに近づいていくのだった。

I can't read Japanese (I'm more of a Chinese), but this seems to be the summary. Hope it helps...


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post Oct 18 2009, 12:25 AM
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^ Aww Winry Chan, that's sweet of you. ^^ I will get to the translation now. biggrin.gif

ETA: The translation of the episode 27 preview summery is done, and I edited it into my first post. Thanks again, Winry Chan!! biggrin.gif


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post Oct 18 2009, 01:28 AM
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My initial thoughts:

- I sort of feel bad for Gluttony, having Envy, Ed, and Ling come out of him that way.
- It was pretty awesome when Father disabled alchemy
- Urgh, we've finally gotten to one of my least favorite ideas in FMA. Well, at least my favorite character (sorta) returns.
- I sort of pictured this scene a little differently
- Ah! Yuuichi Nakamura returns.
- Mei having her dreams destroyed gave me a chuckle
- Woah, Scar is PISSED. But how does he expect to kill Envy?
- The look on Scar's face when his arm doesn't work on Father is priceless
- I still don't quite understand what Scar was doing with the dust
- Poor Gluttony!

Decent episode. A bit of action, some interesting exchanges. Looking forward to seeing it with subtitles.


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post Oct 18 2009, 02:33 AM
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screenshots^^

well based from the screenshots. It's a nice episode though I haven't watch it yet..Im too lazy to do so xP


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post Oct 18 2009, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE ("penguintruth")
- I still don't quite understand what Scar was doing with the dust


It's a dust explosion. The anime actually missed Scar desintegrating the pipes to get the dust, he desintegrated the water to get more oxygen or hydrogen for the deflagration. That kind of thing seems to be quite popular in mangas. There was also one in Get Backers.

QUOTE ("penguintruth")
- It was pretty awesome when Father disabled alchemy


I prefered his goofy attitude before suddenly becoming serious and ordering Glutonny to eat Lin. He really reminded me of Hohenheim here laugh.gif

QUOTE ("penguintruth")
- Woah, Scar is PISSED. But how does he expect to kill Envy?


He seemed to be doing good so far, better than in the manga laugh.gif Poor Envy was screaming in pain and surprise while the whole floor was destroyed underneath his legs and he couldn't even get near the Ishbalan.

QUOTE ("penguintruth")
- I sort of feel bad for Gluttony, having Envy, Ed, and Ling come out of him that way.


That was horrible, I really felt bad for him on that one.
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QUOTE (penguintruth @ Oct 18 2009, 02:28 AM) *
- Urgh, we've finally gotten to one of my least favorite ideas in FMA. Well, at least my favorite character (sorta) returns.

You wouldn't happen to be the person on 4chan this morning saying that 'Greed is awsome but Ling's a ######'


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post Oct 18 2009, 03:59 AM
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I must say, I didn't like the episode. Most of the good moments from manga (Ed consoling Al, mention of Ranfan) were sped up and treated as non important. There's still unconsistency with length of Ed's hair (it's not as long as Ling's!). And hey, Father's hair has no outline : x...why get Ed, Al and Hohenheim hair with outline, but leave out Father's? I also think Father's reactions were too emotional for somebody whose emotions are no longer here. Moreover, the episode seemed too chaotic (it must be that speeding up). But I liked the artstyle (aside the things mentioned) and voice play. Didn't like the change of Ling's voice, but oh well... 6/10.


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post Oct 18 2009, 05:12 AM
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I like the episode, too bad they took out the Ed elbowing Envy giant head for calling him little when they started attacking. I have the tankobon 13 and 14 with me while watching. I glad they kept May's Edward fantasies. Ed in those fantasies need a glove wtih gloves and he would be a shoe in for Vega from Street Fighter.
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pretty good ep, our first proper Al and Mei scene <3 cuuuuuuuuute It was really weird hearing Greed's VA coming out of Ling, didn't feel right at all! But I kinda got used to it by the end of the ep, even though it wasn't how i imagined it, I just imagined a difference in pitch and the intonations used in Ling's original voice, I guess for the anime it kinda makes scense though, so as to define more greatly been the two characters when they switch places and have conversations with each other in later eps


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GREELING <3

I agree that Ling's voice change is weird, but I had been expecting it so I wasn't thrown off too much. I actually think it's cool.

But the pacing of the episode I didn't like. :/ Everything happened far too quickly, it seemed, and there wasn't enough time to really take in the dramatic changes that were taking place. I imagine the people who haven't read the manga would need such time before something else happened.

Well, one episode closer to Ishbal. <3



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post Oct 18 2009, 07:37 AM
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I just finished watching the RAW..it's not bad though it was a bit rush. I love GreedLing^^ and Mei Hallucinations were priceless. Ed's face looks so cute, I need a mature one =_=. I really like Greed's VA. I dunno but I like hearing Greed's VA although the one's talking is Ling.


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post Oct 18 2009, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE (Mhacy @ Oct 18 2009, 04:37 PM) *
Ed's face looks so cute, I need a mature one =_=.


Well, he looks very mature in next episode, at least. But it could be that more reasonable clothes



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^ Ed has really wide shoulders in that shot XD


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post Oct 18 2009, 09:06 AM
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Been seeing a lot of dislike for Greed's original voice coming out of Ling but remember: Bido recognizes Greed's laugh and voice in Chp 82. I admit that it's a bit jarring at first. smile.gif

Yay, Dr. Knox & RanFan next week.


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