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Episode 20: Father Before The Grave - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! May contain spoilers for the first 20 episodes!!
Tombow
post Aug 15 2009, 11:55 PM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 5. smile.gif



Please post the discussions on the content of episode 20 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 20 episodes.


* Where to watch this episode

* HD Screen caps of this episode to be posted on this link address sometime later


* Episode Preview from FMA-2 official JP site:
(Translation by Tombow, with episode title from official sub on Funimation.com)
Episode 20: "Father Before the Grave"
TBF.... (currently I'm having problem opening up pages on the official JP site.. I'll fill in this one later. ^^)





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FMA manga reference: To the readers of FMA manga (To be filled)


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QUOTE (penguintruth @ Aug 17 2009, 11:05 PM) *
It would have been a little richer if more of those little moments between Hohenheim and Edward were included. Hohenheim just seems like a mysterious douchebag in this episode. In the manga he comes off as being more weird and removed, muttering to himself and making observations on things while Edward is trying to express his anger towards him. Hohenheim is supposed to appear sort of flakey. Here, he's just a d***.

I thought what they were going for with Hohenheim's first apperance is, they presented you little hints about him, how he abandoned his family and his wife died soon after, obviously intending the reader to hate him, but when you finally meet him, it's hard to be angry because he acts so weird. So, you become more unnerved than upset at the character. I guess that was just my point of view.


*nods*

I love manga Hoho simply because he is like that - mysterious, yet funny and quirky in a weird way. He's such an original character, and I felt like his scenes were completely botched. All the humor was drained out of it, making him seem the same as the anime1 Hoho, who was really serious and could be very annoying at parts...if you know what I mean. Just not a loveable character! So they've set the entire mood wrong for him, because is there's anyone just watching Brotherhood with no past FMA knowledge, they're hating Hoho for being such a jerk to come, show no emotions at his dead wife's grave, say like nothing to his son, and then ditch again after making Pinako cook for him.

And his voice annoys me.

That Italian bistro music was so bad I wanted to cry. So I guess they still managed to get me on the verge of tears, though it wasn't because of all the dramatic angst.

I thought they were going to cut Izumi crying. I'm happy they kept it, because at that point I was like, "cut anything else, and you're going down!"

Al's speech didn't bother me. I like how he says things like that now and then, because it really shows how different he is than the more passive (still loveable) Al from the first anime.

///rant done///


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- Tombow   Episode 20: Father Before The Grave - Content Discussion Thread   Aug 15 2009, 11:55 PM
- - penguintruth   My initial thoughts on the episode: - Yay, Hoho ...   Aug 16 2009, 01:52 AM
- - amestris_star   Screenshots: http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2009/...   Aug 16 2009, 03:18 AM
|- - Zii   QUOTE (amestris_star @ Aug 16 2009, 07:48...   Aug 16 2009, 03:45 AM
- - Chiyo   Winry looking at Ed's back.....*sigh* I loved ...   Aug 16 2009, 03:35 AM
- - Kirara   I have not seen the episode yet but I never felt a...   Aug 16 2009, 03:50 AM
- - alphonse-fma   Ow no !!!!!! NO episode ne...   Aug 16 2009, 04:36 AM
- - ed elric lover   i seen that episode today but seeing edward laug...   Aug 16 2009, 06:17 AM
- - Hagaren_4ever   -I think they cut out some good scenes, but overal...   Aug 16 2009, 07:46 AM
- - Fee   All.. the eye... twitching... I swear, whenever s...   Aug 16 2009, 10:34 AM
|- - Zii   QUOTE (Fee @ Aug 17 2009, 03:04 AM) Maybe...   Aug 16 2009, 08:28 PM
- - Jen_Elric   QUOTE (Hagaren_4ever @ Aug 16 2009, 10:46...   Aug 16 2009, 11:30 AM
|- - kkg22104   QUOTE (Jen_Elric @ Aug 16 2009, 02:30 PM)...   Aug 16 2009, 01:27 PM
- - Chiyo   I wanted the hairstyle scene too, I think just tha...   Aug 16 2009, 12:29 PM
- - Kirara   I am wondering if they cut some of the comedy scen...   Aug 16 2009, 12:34 PM
- - Womie   Does it seems to me, that Ed has longer hair in th...   Aug 16 2009, 12:41 PM
- - Alzea   Good episode (19 was better but hey last episode w...   Aug 16 2009, 12:52 PM
- - Hagaren_4ever   QUOTE (Womie @ Aug 16 2009, 03:41 PM) Doe...   Aug 16 2009, 04:55 PM
- - Jen_Elric   QUOTE (kkg22104 @ Aug 16 2009, 04:27 PM) ...   Aug 16 2009, 05:23 PM
- - Serb Alchemist   I have a download link for Fullmetal Alchemist Bro...   Aug 17 2009, 02:08 AM
|- - Jealous Rogo   Another week, another new episode of Brotherhood. ...   Aug 17 2009, 06:46 AM
- - Full Metal Elf   Well...this week's wasn't HORRIBLE like so...   Aug 17 2009, 08:40 AM
- - Womie   QUOTE Anyway...I'm REALLY excited for next wee...   Aug 17 2009, 08:59 AM
- - Trakonda   QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Aug 17 2009, 04:46 ...   Aug 17 2009, 09:01 AM
|- - kkg22104   QUOTE (Trakonda @ Aug 17 2009, 12:01 PM) ...   Aug 17 2009, 09:10 AM
- - Womie   Just read beginning of this topic. I have heard it...   Aug 17 2009, 09:07 AM
- - Jealous Rogo   QUOTE (kkg22104 @ Aug 17 2009, 09:10 AM) ...   Aug 17 2009, 09:41 AM
- - paperstars   QUOTE So it was... oh well SCREW YOU BONES Haha,...   Aug 17 2009, 11:10 AM
- - Trakonda   Ah! I didn't remember that panel, either. ...   Aug 17 2009, 12:23 PM
|- - Mr. Deathy   I really dont like something that they lost in thi...   Aug 17 2009, 12:33 PM
|- - Animeoldtimer   I hope at least they discuss Al's concerns abo...   Aug 17 2009, 01:48 PM
- - penguintruth   Having just seen episode 20 with subtitles, I have...   Aug 17 2009, 08:05 PM
- - Jen_Elric   The episode was pretty good. Not great, but good....   Aug 17 2009, 08:08 PM
- - FailToImpress   I read the corresponding manga chapters SO long ag...   Aug 18 2009, 01:44 AM
|- - edxwinryfan   QUOTE (FailToImpress @ Aug 18 2009, 04:44...   Aug 18 2009, 08:19 AM
- - Forsaken Love   agree, there wasn't any mention about the mind...   Aug 18 2009, 04:19 AM
- - Womie   QUOTE nuuuuuu no brotherhood next week! *cry* ...   Aug 18 2009, 05:03 AM
|- - Zii   QUOTE (Womie @ Aug 18 2009, 09:33 PM) Wel...   Aug 18 2009, 05:36 AM
- - Kasumisty   QUOTE (Womie @ Aug 18 2009, 02:03 PM) QUO...   Aug 18 2009, 05:37 AM
- - Womie   QUOTE (Kasumisty @ Aug 18 2009, 06:37 AM)...   Aug 18 2009, 05:43 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   QUOTE (penguintruth @ Aug 17 2009, 08:05 ...   Aug 18 2009, 05:52 AM
- - Chiyo   QUOTE (FailToImpress @ Aug 18 2009, 09:44...   Aug 18 2009, 06:42 AM
- - Nzm   Not bad EP, but there were some better ones. The ...   Aug 18 2009, 06:52 AM
- - penguintruth   Well, even the first series got Hohenheim's ...   Aug 18 2009, 01:34 PM
- - Elle-chan   I love the series so far. But i think they are rus...   Aug 18 2009, 03:48 PM
- - ShadowCat17   yo couple posts up, put spoiler tags for hoho and ...   Aug 19 2009, 12:56 AM
- - thunderbreak   i think they cut some of the hoho scene at beginni...   Aug 19 2009, 05:03 PM
- - ShadowCat17   yeah, the Ed-laughing was definitely like the Yaga...   Aug 19 2009, 05:27 PM
- - Rain-Alchemist   I really liked this episode... we finally get to s...   Aug 19 2009, 10:32 PM
- - edo little kid   Looool , Ed-laughing was best thing ever !...   Aug 20 2009, 07:40 AM
- - BloodRed Alchemist   Another awesome episode! I loved the music at ...   Aug 20 2009, 09:29 PM
- - Radadinator   Ahaha, it amuses me how there's a ton of peopl...   Aug 22 2009, 03:22 PM
- - Vagrant   Gah, I only just got around to watching this and r...   Aug 22 2009, 03:31 PM
- - Forsaken Love   ^ you sure like to complain a lot about every epis...   Aug 22 2009, 04:02 PM
- - Radadinator   @Forsaken Love - Well, each to their own opinion, ...   Aug 22 2009, 05:52 PM
|- - Zii   QUOTE (Radadinator @ Aug 23 2009, 10:22 A...   Aug 22 2009, 08:02 PM
- - Vagrant   My problem is that there's less reason for peo...   Aug 23 2009, 04:46 AM
|- - Zii   QUOTE (Vagrant @ Aug 23 2009, 09:16 PM) M...   Aug 23 2009, 06:38 AM
- - Red Kitty   I finally got round to finishing all the Brotherho...   Aug 23 2009, 05:53 AM
- - FMAobsessed   This episode lacked action, but it definately was ...   Aug 23 2009, 08:12 PM
- - Kasumisty   QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Aug 24 2009, 05:12 A...   Aug 24 2009, 01:29 AM
- - Kyelinn   QUOTE (FMAobsessed)The animation made it look like...   Aug 24 2009, 06:31 AM
- - FMAobsessed   @Kyelinn: I remember that page from the manga. I...   Aug 24 2009, 06:55 AM
- - Michiyo-   Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 20 (on CN ...   Jun 26 2010, 03:15 PM
- - hawkflame   I don't know about anyone else, but I found th...   Jun 26 2010, 10:51 PM
- - deet-tastic   When Hoho started talking I did a "KENT WILLI...   Jun 27 2010, 02:45 PM
- - EveningAlchemist   Although this episode was mostly just talking (and...   Jun 27 2010, 04:00 PM
- - Disasterpiece   Great episode. I thought the VAs were superb. Fa...   Jun 27 2010, 09:18 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it is on again...   Mar 3 2012, 09:51 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it is on again...   Mar 30 2013, 05:51 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it is on again...   Jul 5 2014, 05:28 PM


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