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Episode 19: The Death Of The Undying - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! May contain spoilers for the first 19 episodes!!
post Aug 8 2009, 08:57 PM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 4. smile.gif

Please post the discussions on the content of episode 19 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 19 episodes.

* Where to watch this episode

* HD Screen caps of this episode to be posted on this link address sometime later

* Episode Preview from FMA-2 official JP site:
(Translation by Tombow, with episode title from official sub on Funimation.com)
Episode 19: "The Death of the Undying"
The operation by Roy and the gang against the Homunculi is coming to a big conclusion. Following Barry who is searching for his body, Roy, Havoc, Al and others sneak into the basement of the Third lab. They separate into two teams and proceed farther. There, Roy and Havoc run into Lust, and they learn about the Homunculi and their secret for the first time. Even though still in a state of confusion and wonderment, Roy manages to come up with the quick tact, and blasts off Lust with a huge explosion. But, regenerated by the amazing power of Philosopher's Stone inside, suddenly she revives and impales Roy and Havoc in an instance of their unguarded moment.....

Also, FYI, preview of the next episode (episode 20) from FMA-2 official JP site
(Translation by Tombow, the episode title is from official sub on Funimation.com)
Episode 20: "TBA"


Episode Summary: (To be filled)

Characters in this episode: (To be filled)

Locations: (excluding review and preview scenes, to be filled)

Sound Track info for this episode that's known to us so far: (To be filled)

FMA manga reference: To the readers of FMA manga (To be filled)


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post Aug 9 2009, 01:31 AM
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My initial impressions:

- Gluttony's voice is still awful
- Where's Ranfan vs Envy?!?
- I love Barry so much.
- Lust's jiggling breasts... as Havoc says, "BOING! BOING! BOING!" I haven't decided whether it ruins the mood or not. Nah.
- Roy kicks so much [All hail lord Xenu]. I'm not a HUGE Roy fangirl... er, boy, but oh god, he is awesome this episode. Shinichiro Miki has also earned my admiration.
- Eh, the Riza voice didn't make it for me, though. Riza still sounds too girlish in this series. When she screams, it's like she's a grade schooler who got into a fight with her boyfriend. Michiko Neya would have nailed this scene.
- Rie Kugimiya did a good job as Al this episode. Even more than usual, I mean.
- Barry ;_;
- Great episode overall. Not flawless, but noteworthy.

Arakawa's writing skills shine through in this episode.


Fullmetal Alchemist is over! Thank you, Hiromu Arakawa! ;_;
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post Aug 9 2009, 01:39 AM
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Well, I was so excited for this episode that I went through the trouble of watching it as it aired, and I have to say this is probably my favourite episode so far.

I'm pretty disappointed about no Envy, (and also my favourite scene was missing where Ling slices Gluttony in half >_>), but I guess it was a necessary loss to make sure there was enough time for the Roy/Lust fight, which I thought was spectacular. I was worried they were gonna save it to the last 5 minutes of the episode, but thankfully they gave the scene ample time to play out without being too over-paced...

Anyhoo, some of the character designs looked a bit funky again this ep (what was up with Winry's eyes? Also Barry looked kinda weird, again.) But otherwise, the animation seemed good. I really liked that Lust's eyeball was half sticking out when she regenerated, lmao. But Roy burning her was amazing.

Anyway, overall I thought it was a great ep. I miss Ling/Lan-Fan vs. Homunculi (not terribly though), but otherwise they didn't cut anything else important, just little bits.

tl;dr - fantastic episode, I think they did Roy vs. Lust justice.

(Also I think this is my first post..... hah.)

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post Aug 9 2009, 01:41 AM
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Okay... I'll try...

-We got brand new music I never heard before! It's awesome! Even at the preview of the next episode there was different music this time!
-They (Bones and exactly the people who were doing this episode) overlapped the ending song with the anime end. I think it's a nice effect. Again, it's their first time doing this.
-Wow, it all was exactly mangalike... manga panel after manga panel animated. There's only one thing that wasn't exactly like in the manga: When Al and Riza help Roy to stand up after the battle. I dunno why they left that out. Maybe because this time they weren't rushing and time ran out?
-When Lust was burned... I could smell the ash... that looked awesome. But... dunno... making flames realistic in animes is almost impossible =D.
-Lust was animated very good and every movement of her was awesome.
-Riza was like... manga-panel-like. And totally awesome. Too bad she did not get her eyecatch. She needed one more than any one else in this episode.
-Roy looked also totally wow. They showed another side of him. Like, in the whole anime till now he was boring and even a little useless. Now, I bet, he has alooooot of more fans (I'm talking about who haven't seen the first anime and haven't read the manga yet. Who knows, maybe they will read it after this episode)
-Could this be the episode all manga fans were waiting for? That isn't rushed and shows everything (well, I mean the Roy vs. Lust scene) exactly like in the manga with all the awesomeness? It was the best episode so far. Well, IMO
~the end~

Yeah I forgot something
-Riza's screams were RLY awful, they made me almost go berserk T__T
-And Barry... I gotta miss him ;____;

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post Aug 9 2009, 01:42 AM
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Best. Ep. Ever.

And I'm still crying.

Maybe I'll be more coherent later on... with the raw and the sub.


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post Aug 9 2009, 01:51 AM
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Such a fantastic episode - so far it's the best one yet!

Everything was spot on - though during the stream it seemed like the timing was off in a couple of places.

I'll probably have more impressions once the raws & subs come out (watched the raw, more coherent now), but man - Roy just straight up owned this episode.


- Was kinda disappointed that the Riza v. Gluttony fight was a little shorter, but it was good seeing Fuery and Hayate get some screen time before Roy showed up

- Glad they kept the part where Riza yells at Roy (one of the more amusing parts of that chapter)

- Humor/gag drawings were used in the best ways as they didn't seem terribly out of place

- Barry...I'll miss you you homicidal maniac, you were great

- Definitely missed seeing the Xing crew v. Envy - but hopefully it'll be addressed soon in a later episode (it was such another fantastic fight)

- Havoc... ;_; but, at least they kept the boob speech for you (and Lust's breasts jiggling a bit) tongue.gif

- Roy v. Lust pt. 1: extremely brutal, especially when Roy when for the Philosopher's Stone...also, the part where Lust removes Roy's glove was kinda hot tongue.gif

- Riza...nailed it (I thought her voice was perfect for this part as it's apparent that she's emotionally breaking down at that point)

- Yay Alphonose! Always loved that little speech he gave in the manga - was well-done here

- Roy's re-appearance and pt. 2 of his fight with Lust...OMG that was just plain awesome, in an extremely brutal way

- Great way to end the episode with Hohenheim (loved how they used a bit of the ED to transition)
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post Aug 9 2009, 02:12 AM
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post Aug 9 2009, 03:56 AM
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Best episode yet. <3
Especially the Lust vs Roy. I mean, since it's like the highlight of the ep and all..
I'm glad Havoc got a eyecatch. :3 Because after this he doesn't get a lot of time to shine anymore..

And no more Barry ;_; He was one of my favourite chars. *sob*

Yeah, this episode was just 51 flavours of awesome.
I didn't really notice anything I didn't like about the ep, but I guess I was just too busy fangirling over it .o/

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post Aug 9 2009, 07:00 AM
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The episode was pretty good but definitely not perfect. I mean besides skipping the Ran Fan/Ling Vs Homunculus scenes I also was disappointed that they didn't show the full explosion when Roy used Havoc's lighter to blow up the room (well I guess that is a minor nitpick)

However the scenes with Al not leaving Riza and Roy's re-entrance into the scene were just fantastic. I also loved the ending when Ed sees Hohenheim. It actually felt like the way Arakawa ends a chapter (the anime team seemed afraid to end at a cliffhanger almost).

Also Barry the Chopper ;______________; but I have to admit I didn't feel as sad for his passing as I did in the manga.

Now onto the preview it looks like they are animating chapters 42-44 next week. Not to mention they still need to animate scenes from chapter 40 that involve Roy & Co. that were skipped due to time line changes. If that is the case I am not pleased at all.
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post Aug 9 2009, 07:19 AM
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Looked really good, can't wait for the sub.

Only real nitpick was Riza's screams. The first one was fine, the one half way through her ammo was a bit to high-pitched for my ears.

Aside from that the whole scene was fantastic.

I have faith they'll show the aftermath with the military, gotta show Havoc is still alive. I just hope they don't cut the whole Roy berating Riza, Havoc demanding to be left behind, stuff.

The other thing is the whole sensing homunculus. I'm curious about whether they just completely cut the Ran Fan + Ling vs Gluttony + Envy, or did they delay it. I can see either happening. While I suspect its cut, and they'll incorporate it into the Gluttony + Wrath vs Ran Fan + Ling fight, it then begs the question of how they set up Ed's plan on drawing out a homunculus or two.

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post Aug 9 2009, 07:21 AM
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Woooooooow , what a awesome ep ever!!!!

the fight between Roy vs Lust was damn perfect!!!

I don't care about Ranvan vs Envy but , may be we see it in other ep!
I'm enjoyed this epic fight Roy/Lust!!!
Jane Havoc <3 !!!!!!!!!!
I just want cry with Riza!!!!!
(Al not leaving Riza great part )
Love *RoyAi* this ep!!!!!!!!
also , Baryy T_______T aaaah!!!

I'm looking forward to next week happy.gif
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post Aug 9 2009, 08:06 AM
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Best episode. I really liked it, so much action, Royai moments, everything... I need to find the raw and watch it again and again. Then again with subs. This is my favourite episode. biggrin.gif


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I haven't seen the new episode yet but im very dissapointed they cut out the Envy+Gluttony vs RanFan+Ling. It was one of my favourite scenes and I hope they add it in later but I don't think thats likely.

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QUOTE (mellulah @ Aug 9 2009, 09:59 AM) *
I haven't seen the new episode yet but im very dissapointed they cut out the Envy+Gluttony vs RanFan+Ling. It was one of my favourite scenes and I hope they add it in later but I don't think thats likely.

Yeah it's totally gone and Envy and Ranfan aren't even in the ep. The only combat involves Mustang, Hawkeye, Al and Havoc vs Lust and the tiny Gluttony part at the beginning. I'm a bit annoyed as the other fight was cool, had some great panels and served as the introduction to Pride. It can't really happen later it wouldn't make ANY sense anywhere else.

Anyway apart from that though the Mustang vs Lust scenes were amazing. The animation was fantastic and I'm glad they paced it well and showed a prolonged burning scene as Arakawa felt she had to rush that part in the manga. This was pretty much the main reason I ever wanted a new FMA series and I wasn't disappointed. I'm looking forward to seeing it in better quality too.
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post Aug 9 2009, 09:37 AM
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yes, mustang finally gets a chance to have a whole episode where he can pwn everything over and over again lol. I'm glad they certainly didn't do much censoring with the fight. I'm pretty sure there were more than one new musical pieces here too, which made things better.

The Ranfan fight might still be included sometime later - it's not a scene that would necessarily be hard to cut out and paste someplace else where it might be more relevant. I hope they do put it in when they're done with the bit on hohenheim
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