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Episode 16: Footsteps Of A Comrade-in-arms - Content Discussion Thread, Caution! Spoilers for the first 16 episodes!
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post Jul 18 2009, 09:33 PM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 4. smile.gif


Please post the discussions on the content of episode 16 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 16 episodes.


* Where to watch this episode

* HD Screen caps of this episode to be posted on this link address sometime later


* Episode Preview from FMA-2 official JP site:
(Translation by Tombow, wthe episode title is from official sub on Funimation.com)
Episode 16: "Footsteps of a Comrade-in Arms"
From Barry Roy has learned some truth about the murder of Hughes. But, soon Homunculus learn that Roy is searching for the truth about Hughes's murder and Roy has met Barry. Meanwhile, Ed, Al, & Winry come to Central. Ed and Al learn about Hughes' death from Maria Ross at the Headquarters. Meantime, not knowing his death yet, Winry heads straight to Hughes' home.......


Also, FYI, preview of the next episode (episode 17) from FMA-2 official JP site
(Translation by Tombow, the episode title is from official sub on Funimation.com)
Episode 17: "Cold Flame"
Ross is under the military custody as an suspect for the murder of Hughes, and the situation seems turning worse for her. Then, to her surprise, Barry attacks the brig where Ross is being held, and together with Ling, helps Ross escape from the military custody. The military issues an order to capture Ross, even shoot to kill if necessary. Ed and Al head for the Headquarters to find out the truth. But, even before Ed and Al find out more about the situation, Roy shows up before Ross, and shoot the flame toward Ross......


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Episode Summary: (To be filled)


Characters in this episode: (To be filled)


Locations: (excluding review and preview scenes, to be filled)


Sound Track info for this episode that's known to us so far: (To be filled)


FMA manga reference: To the readers of FMA manga (To be filled)


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post Jul 18 2009, 09:52 PM
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It will be a sad episode indeed. :[


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post Jul 19 2009, 01:28 AM
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Initial impressions:

- Love the detail in scenery of Central
- Aww, Ed an Al run by the booth Hughes was killed in without knowing it!
- The bathroom scene
- Ed running scene... enough already!
- No apple pie! Damn it!
- Henry Douglas looks a little weird compared to his manga counterpart.
- Maria arrested! Jean dating Lust! What an ending!

Things will really be going down in the next episode.


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post Jul 19 2009, 01:58 AM
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I really must see the RAW and the subs this time... the change in the time-line confused me a bit, but... some thing were really well done.

And next week, EPIC time coming up.

EDIT: Screenshots wink.gif

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post Jul 19 2009, 03:27 AM
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The way they've switched events around made this episode a bit boring to me (the emotionless monster that I am). However, I do wonder if it would have been confusing if they'd left it like in the manga, especially to people who haven't read it. The scenes where the brothers run by the phonebooth, and Gracia crying out of view were interesting additions.

Can a mob of angry fans please crowd outside BONES' studio and grump about them removing half of the little funny bits though? This is not series 1, this is not 98% SRS BSNS, all this seems to be proving is that for the full experience I/we should just stick to the book. Or is that the point? Get them interested with this cut up edition of the anime so they'll go out and buy the manga?
Because clearly, if BONES have the budget to make the 4komas they have the budget to make us giggle a little more often in the series proper! >E *tantrum*

But yes, looks like next week shall be an epic one.
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post Jul 19 2009, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE (Zii @ Jul 19 2009, 03:27 AM) *
Gracia crying out of view were interesting additions.
But wasn't that in the manga?
PLEASE tell me: During this Gracia's one big scene, did BONES visualize her memories of her husband, sorta like...
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Anime1Hohenheim's reaction to Anime1Sloth?
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QUOTE (Claudius @ Jul 19 2009, 08:18 PM) *
QUOTE (Zii @ Jul 19 2009, 03:27 AM) *
Gracia crying out of view were interesting additions.
But wasn't that in the manga?
PLEASE tell me: During this Gracia's one big scene, did BONES visualize her memories of her husband, sorta like...
(FMA1spoiler)
Anime1Hohenheim's reaction to Anime1Sloth?

It was, but in this ep they don't actually show her - you only hear her. It's more effective, I think.
And err no, I don't think so about the flashbacks. I only remember seeing some after Ed found out about Hughes' death.
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QUOTE
And err no, I don't think so about the flashbacks. I only remember seeing some after Ed found out about Hughes' death.
And thus the book closes on any hope of a romantic Hughes-Gracia moment...
It's kinda weird that any real evidence comes from Conqueror of Shamballa.
Oh well, to quote myself:
"I'll always have Conqueror of Shamballa for my Hugracia take, as well my fanfics, and a certain series that IMO features characters who make a good live-action resemblance to the Late Brigadier General and his wife…

http://www.angelcordy.com/pictures/angelcordy12.jpg "

I might consider writing an essay about the Three Faces of Gracia (Manga, Anime1, and CoS).
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sad things:
-sad,sad,sad every one was sad
- Ed running scene so sad !
-Oh , the booth scene was sad to me !
- Gracia & Elisya...
-Maria told elrics brothers the truth


funny :
-Ling poor
-Gluttony & chimera
-Armstrong smile in bath XD



any way , I love this Episode
I want cry , the art was perfect
but Riza eyes is really so big !!
also Lust's lips is big!
but Lust was really hot when she meet havoc !!


wait for next episode ....
poor Mari Ross she is wronged !!

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post Jul 19 2009, 09:53 AM
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The episodes are getting better yay! I was hoping for apple pie, but the ed/winry scene was still fine the way it was. Very sad episode. The episode makes you think it's going to end in one of those depressed/angst moods but then the ending was a real kicker! I want more episodes, now!
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post Jul 19 2009, 12:22 PM
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This time everything was taken care of well. No they-rushed-this-pretty-badly feeling which is good.

Yay for Havoc and his beautiful girlfriend! Liked the emotianal scene between Ed and Winry in the hotel. Nothing was missing and waw for the preview! Mustang looked scary as hell.
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post Jul 19 2009, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE (SneakyRuler @ Jul 19 2009, 01:22 PM) *
This time everything was taken care of well. No they-rushed-this-pretty-badly feeling which is good.

Yay for Havoc and his beautiful girlfriend! Liked the emotianal scene between Ed and Winry in the hotel. Nothing was missing and waw for the preview! Mustang looked scary as hell.


There were some things missing still, though less than usual thankfully.

Ed making his scary mask design for Ran Fan at the start was gone, as was the train scene (including the hilarious height comparison between Ed and Ling).

Other than that though thankfully it was just minor dialogue cutbacks.

Episode felt good as a whole, shame about no apple pie (I guess the pacing means there was no time for it to be baked!) but I mostly wasn't bothered with any of the changed.

I hope next episode covers quite a lot honestly, I want them to get through a lot of material before episode 19 so that nothing in that episode is missing or rushed.
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tmd-asu subs are out, find them yourself or pm me for link
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the episode got better towards the end, i was very annoied they missed out the newspaper part because that was just way better and more emotive and epic, the point of missing out the apple pie i have no idea, but i was really happy we had the part where winry grabbed ed's hand and pulled him inside her hotel room, i thought they may miss that out, the episode certainly became better toward the end

oh edit: wasn't the ling and ed hight comparision meant to be here!? wtf!!! i thought they liked exagerating ed's height i loved that part and isn't that when we find out how old ling actually is, isnt that little character detail slightly important?


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Who knows what would happened, I was satified with the episode. I think they didnt left out apple pie scene but instead saving it for later snice Winry brought apples and were going to make it and even told Ed while she is sad so who knows they go with there. As far as jokes, who knows maybe in a later episode they will do the Ed comparing to Ling height joke there.

Let the series make this show more different and unique from the manga and first series as well as keeping the manga story. They can't animated word for word always. I perfer they catch me off guard witha twist or something to give each entity it's unique personality. I do agree that leaving out some parts were unncessacry but I'm hoping they might add something to make up for it. Maybe a extra Royai scene in and there or apple pie scene that is different that it will make Edwin fans cry out in joy. That's what I'm hoping.

I can't wait for the next episode.
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