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Episode 9: Created Feelings - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! Spoilers for th efirst 9 episodes!!
Tombow
post May 30 2009, 12:47 PM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 7. smile.gif


Please post the discussions on the content of episode 9 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 9 episodes.
REMINDER: This thread is spoiler free zone ONLY for the content of first 9 episode.
If you're going to talk about the UPCOMING event, especially if you would like to talk about certain events that may have some shock values to those who do not know the FMA maga story or story on the first FMA series, please make sure to USE PROPER SPOILERS. Thank you!!

* Where to watch this episode
NOTE: For FMA fans in Italy, Spain, Portugal, Hungary, Czech Republic, the Slovak Republic, Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia, Greece, Sweden, Poland, Finland, Denmark, Norway, the Russian Federation, & Turkey: You can now watch officially subbed (in your country''s language) FMA: Brotherhood episodes in your country!!! Please check the first page of above linked thread for details!!!

*Additionally, the following countries and areas are listed as newly able to access FMA: Brotherhood episodes on Youtube site (though the episodes may not be subbed in the language of your country): Check the list of viewing countries (Please double check Youtube site for details.)

* For FMA fans in Philippines, now you can watch Tagalog dubbed FMA-2 Brotherhood episodes on TV5 every Friday 7:30 PM. (Although, the current airing schedule is about 8 weeks behind the premier of the new episode in Japan. Please check TV5 for more details.)

NOTE: This could change soon, but as of May 31, 2009, North American viewers are NOT being able to watch FMA Brotherhood episodes at Funimation.com sites. Please check this post and few posts around it. UPDATE: as of June 1, 2009, we are expecting/hoping that on-line viewing of FMA: B episodes to resume soon... as reported by ENVY II on here.
UPDATE: As of June 3, 2009, FMA: Brotherhood episodes are back on Funimation.com site for viewing!! UPDATE:2 It's Wed. evening, and episode 9 is already up on Funimation.com, a half-day ahead of regular schedule this week.


* HD Screen caps of this episode to be posted on this link address later

* For all FMA Brotherhood anime fans who do not have access to the official subbed episodes, the transcriptions of English subbed episodes on Fanimation.com will be posted sometime later on Transcritions of official English sub thread.


* Episode Preview from FMA-2 official JP site:
(Translation by Tombow, episode title is from official English sub on Funimation.com)
Episode 9: "Created Feelings"
Ed's automail was heavily damaged and Ed was wounded badly during the fight at the Fifth Lab. Ed calls Winry to Central from Resembool to repair his automail. Meantime, Al has been troubled by Barry's words from the Fifth lab, and Al begins to wonder, "Am I really Ed's brother? Or, was my memory fabricated, as well as my being as his brother, by Ed, by attaching a soul to an armor?" Al can not shake off his doubt, and it begins to tear apart Ed and Al's brotherly bond that had been unbreakable till now..


Also, FYI, preview of the next episode (episode 10) from FMA-2 official JP site
(Translation by Tombow, to be filled once the preview is up on the site)
Episode 10: "TBA"
TBA.

Reminder:

For those who had seen the first series of FMA anime, and/or read FMA manga, you can probably guess what's coming next. HOWEVER, please remember that there are some who have not seen FMA-1, nor read managa. I know many of you would like to talk about "the upcoming episode." If you do, please USE PROPER SPOILERS, so that those who have no idea for the future story would not be spoiled. THANK YOU!!! smile.gif


ETA: PROGRAM NOTE:

I would like to see this thread to be filled with discussions about THIS EPISODE, and not overrun by the talk of some content of the future episode. Hence, I would like to ask anyone who would like to talk about the possible content of episode 10, to kindly head over to Future episode discussion thread ... please talk about the possible content of episode 10 on the above linked thread. Thank you!! smile.gif

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Episode Summary: (To be filled)


Characters in this episode: (To be filled)


Locations: (excluding review and preview scenes, to be filled)


Sound Track info for this episode that's known to us so far: (To be filled)


FMA manga reference: To the readers of FMA manga (To be filled)


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post Jun 2 2009, 12:18 PM
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I found this episode to be truly moving it that is it the first time that the unbreakable bond between these two brothers is put to the test. I know that is the previous series, this episode was often referred to as the "existential Al angst" episode, but I found that was certainly not the case for the new series. Als emotions in this episode were more of fear that gave way to sheer anger and desperation. One could view Al doubting his own existence as a huge slap in the face and a full-out betrayal of his elder brother. However, I believe that Als doubts come from sheer fear and the belief that the one thing that Ed was afraid to say was the fact that all of Als memories were created. The scene with the little boy and the robot did such a great job at symbolically showing how Al must have thought that he was nothing more than a robot himself with preprogrammed thoughts and memories. One of FMAs more philosophical themes deals with what it truly means to be a human being. I believe that Al questioning his own existence and identity is key to demonstrating this theme as well as deepening the bond between the two brothers. In the previous episode, Ed is forced to ask himself whether or not his little brother is truly human after defeating the Slicer brothers. If he were to deny that the Slicer brothers were inhuman, then he would also deny the fact that Al was human. Needless to say, I could "feel" the guilt and pure sadness radiating from Ed in this episode after Al openly challenges him.


I really loved how strong Winrys character was in this episode in that she acts as the glue that brings the brothers back together. It was also thoroughly enjoyable to see Hughes give Winry advice regarding how to handle men and their inability to say things through words. I thought that it was Winry who ultimately brought Al back to reality after telling Al the true thing that Ed was so terribly afraid to ask. The flashback scene to young Ed during his automail surgery was absolutely heart-breaking and showed just how much guilt and complete sadness Ed must have had stored inside of him. I believe that the flashback showed Eds undying love for his brother and his fear of losing his strong bond with Al.


The reconciliation between the two brothers was handled so well, and I found it to be a really moving scene. The desire of both the brothers to move on side-by-side really captures what I believe is going to become the predominant theme of the new series- that of movement and undying brotherhood. I think that this incident strengthened the relationship and bond between Ed and Al all the more and created a deep trust between them.


Side notes: The voice acting was superb in this episode. All the voice actors did such a great job of bringing their characters to life and getting the emotions across.

- Heh heh, I am so happy that they kept the milk scene.

-I loved how Ed hemorrhaged after Havoc asked if he was calling his girlfriend.

-The small glimpse of Scars arm made for some great foreshadowing.

- Hughes taking out his gun and threatening the little boys was freaking hilarious.


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- Tombow   Episode 9: Created Feelings - Content Discussion Thread   May 30 2009, 12:47 PM
- - amestris_star   Has anyone else seen the ep? I'm still crying....   May 31 2009, 01:33 AM
- - Kasumisty   It was that good? :x Damn you, streams.   May 31 2009, 01:34 AM
|- - amestris_star   QUOTE (Kasumisty @ May 31 2009, 10:34 AM)...   May 31 2009, 01:38 AM
- - Kasumisty   QUOTE (amestris_star @ May 31 2009, 10:38...   May 31 2009, 01:39 AM
|- - black~hayate   QUOTE (Kasumisty @ May 31 2009, 10:39 AM)...   May 31 2009, 01:45 AM
|- - amestris_star   QUOTE (black~hayate @ May 31 2009, 10:45 ...   May 31 2009, 02:03 AM
- - edo little kid   OMG , hey guys you fear me what happen in ep .......   May 31 2009, 02:48 AM
|- - amestris_star   QUOTE (edo little kid @ May 31 2009, 11:4...   May 31 2009, 02:52 AM
- - edo little kid   Oh!!! Roy !!!!   May 31 2009, 03:05 AM
- - Kasumisty   Scene at the grave was so sad. "It's rain...   May 31 2009, 03:08 AM
- - Michiyo-   amestris_star: OMG, that pic of Roy... I'm rea...   May 31 2009, 03:23 AM
- - fullmoon   Wow, what a great episode! I really enjoyed it...   May 31 2009, 03:56 AM
- - Hagaren_4ever   MUST. WATCH. RAW. O_O   May 31 2009, 06:12 AM
- - kkg22104   I haven't been able to find a raw yet, but loo...   May 31 2009, 06:15 AM
|- - Broken Chouchou   QUOTE (kkg22104 @ May 31 2009, 07:15 AM) ...   May 31 2009, 07:35 AM
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|- - Claudius   So they didn't speed through the Elysia birthd...   May 31 2009, 07:53 AM
|- - SonPan   Can someone PM we with a link of the Raw plaase   May 31 2009, 08:27 AM
- - Kyelinn   Ummm well obviously they would add more fluency th...   May 31 2009, 07:51 AM
- - Alzea   Ah, finally, Ive seen the raw version and whoa, g...   May 31 2009, 08:36 AM
- - Michiyo-   Just finished watching the raw. I enjoyed this epi...   May 31 2009, 08:46 AM
- - SonPan   Just watched that raw and I was happy with it...I ...   May 31 2009, 08:48 AM
- - kkg22104   I was just rewatching the raw version I have and I...   May 31 2009, 09:16 AM
|- - Fubuki   QUOTE (kkg22104 @ May 31 2009, 09:16 AM) ...   May 31 2009, 09:22 AM
- - black~hayate   Same here, I diddn't see the full intro, too. ...   May 31 2009, 09:20 AM
|- - kkg22104   QUOTE (black~hayate @ May 31 2009, 12:20 ...   May 31 2009, 09:27 AM
- - Michiyo-   I think we'll get a new opening after the Gree...   May 31 2009, 10:15 AM
- - edo little kid   Hello~~~* I watch the episode finally ^o^/ -------...   May 31 2009, 10:18 AM
- - Hey   Huh, the boring alchemy intro is gone. Never reall...   May 31 2009, 10:38 AM
|- - amestris_star   QUOTE (Hey @ May 31 2009, 07:38 PM) Btw t...   May 31 2009, 10:51 AM
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|- - amestris_star   QUOTE (kkg22104 @ May 31 2009, 07:54 PM) ...   May 31 2009, 11:00 AM
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- - Michiyo-   ^I noticed that, too. I'm glad they weren...   May 31 2009, 12:11 PM
- - Kasumisty   Well, I've watched the episode and I must say ...   May 31 2009, 01:18 PM
- - Trakonda   ..Seriously. That "Fullmetal Alchemist" ...   May 31 2009, 01:20 PM
- - ShadowCat17   I kind of wish they would do the thing with Bradle...   May 31 2009, 01:52 PM
|- - kkg22104   QUOTE (ShadowCat17 @ May 31 2009, 04:52 P...   May 31 2009, 02:14 PM
- - Imbris   I need to give a heads up to people looking for th...   May 31 2009, 02:16 PM
|- - amestris_star   QUOTE (Imbris @ May 31 2009, 11:16 PM) I ...   May 31 2009, 02:47 PM
- - Kasumisty   Damn, too bad, I have already 50%. But the Polish ...   May 31 2009, 02:22 PM
- - hand-made-city   At first I completely hated the "Fullmetal Al...   May 31 2009, 02:29 PM
- - ShadowCat17   I watched the entire Punch subbed version, it was ...   May 31 2009, 02:51 PM
- - edxwinryfan   I have to say that after watching this episode, I...   May 31 2009, 03:23 PM
- - SneakyRuler   First thanks to those who warned us against bad qu...   May 31 2009, 03:33 PM
- - Kyelinn   If anybody has a link to the subs, could you pleas...   May 31 2009, 03:51 PM
- - Krokgard   Nice one! Maybe my fav 'till now! Very...   May 31 2009, 04:28 PM
|- - kkg22104   QUOTE (Krokgard @ May 31 2009, 07:28 PM) ...   May 31 2009, 04:53 PM
- - Sword Alchemist   This episode was great. The scene where Maria slap...   May 31 2009, 04:30 PM
- - Imbris   Man, I got chills during the preview for next week...   May 31 2009, 04:30 PM
- - Full Metal Elf   The subs sucked, but I still got what was going on...   May 31 2009, 05:04 PM
- - Radadinator   I wasn't really satisfied with the art and ani...   May 31 2009, 05:49 PM
|- - Kirara   QUOTE (Radadinator @ May 31 2009, 06:49 P...   May 31 2009, 05:54 PM
|- - kkg22104   QUOTE (Radadinator @ May 31 2009, 08:49 P...   May 31 2009, 05:58 PM
- - Radadinator   QUOTE (Kirara @ May 31 2009, 05:54 PM) QU...   May 31 2009, 06:01 PM
- - Jen_Elric   Well, aside from bad subs, the episode was awesome...   May 31 2009, 08:08 PM
- - Tezrath   I thought they did a great job with this ep... the...   May 31 2009, 08:39 PM
- - crazyanimefan   I will say that this episode truly made me cry. Al...   May 31 2009, 08:51 PM
- - Vagrant   Ed's face at the beginning was straight from t...   May 31 2009, 10:36 PM
- - penguintruth   Now, I'm a huge fan of the first anime series,...   Jun 1 2009, 12:04 AM
- - Elemental/Alchemist   now i haven't seen this yet - but i can guess ...   Jun 1 2009, 12:13 AM
- - Vagrant   QUOTE (penguintruth @ Jun 1 2009, 08:04 A...   Jun 1 2009, 12:22 AM
- - Haineko   Hurray, another great episode! Two in a row no...   Jun 1 2009, 12:43 AM
- - Aribelle   Romi Paku really did an amazing job in this episod...   Jun 1 2009, 01:37 AM
- - Tombow   Wow, this was another good episode!! First...   Jun 1 2009, 04:28 AM
- - KenRik   Just like everyone else, I really loved the way th...   Jun 1 2009, 05:16 AM
- - Tombow   PROGRAM NOTE: I would like to see this thread to ...   Jun 1 2009, 06:29 AM
- - Vagrant   QUOTE (KenRik @ Jun 1 2009, 01:16 PM) And...   Jun 1 2009, 07:03 AM
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- - Vagrant   QUOTE (WinterChanterelle @ Jun 1 2009, 03...   Jun 1 2009, 08:55 AM
|- - WinterChanterelle   Animeoldtimer, heehee. The poor Fullmetal Alchemis...   Jun 1 2009, 10:10 AM
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|- - Sword Alchemist   QUOTE (Vagrant @ Jun 1 2009, 10:55 AM) QU...   Jun 1 2009, 02:19 PM
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