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Episode 3: City Of Heresy - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! Possible spoilers for the first 3 episodes!
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post Apr 19 2009, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE (Animeoldtimer @ Apr 19 2009, 10:18 PM) *
One thing that's getting to be a bit too much are the short jokes. Yeah, Ed's short can we move on now? .......at least for a few episodes. smile.gif


Ah, you know that when they actually go a while without one, your gonna miss those short jokes. Then when they're back you're gonna think "How nostalgic!"!

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I liked this episode overall. The humor was pretty oddly placed, though. (Come on, Ed, prancing off in the middle of stuff with your shirt partially ripped up? What's that all about?) Even so, I did like them keeping Ed's "Strike!" comment. That always got me in the first anime, and it made my day to see it in this one.

Rose looks... okay. It just looks like she's spent her whole life indoors or something. Her hair was better this time around, though. Pink is okay in most things... just not Rose's hair. The whole twist with the gun was nice, I'll admit. I didn't expect it to come back right in the end, though.

I do like the music, too, but again, there were times where I was going, "Wha--? Why this?"

Cornello sounded way different than I remember. Didn't particularly like that bit, but I can deal with it. Lust and Gluttony sound pretty good, though.

I think the next episode is where we'll get some real drama, though. Aside from whatever humor Nina brings, they just can't add any more in. I'm curious to see the paper-pushing, too. What's that all about?


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Ok, this episode was ok. I didn't like it as much as I thought I would. THe humor was a little over done. I loved seeing the part when Ed chamges his Automail into that blade, with that look on his face, but after that, it was too silly.
I liked Rose's new look. The color of her hair mathed well with her skin.
I HATED the rebound! Cornello getting all beefed up was so pointless, I actually adverted my eyes. But I did like it when Ed head butted him. I think that WAS in the manga.
The look on Ed's face when Roses said he could bring back their mother was great. It was heart breaking and what this series is great for.
I liked the scene with Lust and Gluttony. I never heard Gluttony's voice in Japanese before, but his voice DID sound weird. I"ll get used to it.
I can't wait for the next episode! It's going to be sooo heavy.


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post Apr 19 2009, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE (Cece @ Apr 19 2009, 08:30 PM) *
I wouldn't really call anyone white in Fullmetal Alchemist except for Winry (blue eyes bond hair) because really who has Golden hair and eyes so I don't think we should try to translate FMA races to our world i would just call the Amestrian, Xingese or Ishbalan because it get confusing.


ROFL xD I wasn't meaning white in the literal sense of "caucasion" I was meaning white as in her skin is white/pale/creamy instead of tan/dark/olive-toned. In any case, Rose is Amestrian. She's not just some character with a unique, Ishbalan skin color like she was in the first series.


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post Apr 19 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (His Name is Unknown @ Apr 19 2009, 06:00 PM) *
The pacing was a bit better, I enjoyed the extra development Rose received, and the direction is beginning to handle the emotional aspect of the brother's struggle in a more refined fashion - but having said that, I did not enjoy this episode.

The entire tenor of this series is too light-hearted and episodic for my tastes (zomg! philosopher's stone *cue recycled 3pic Latin choir*). I think I'm going to call it quits now and just enjoy the first series and the manga, because so far I've been disappointed by the new show.

It's too soon for me to put my all my thoughts in order, but suffice to say this show feels (to me) hollow and amateurish compared with season one. I guess it might have something to do with the fact that I'm currently watching Monster, and what that show accomplishes in a 24 minute episode compared to this is somewhat ridiculous. Slow-paced, thought provoking shows are more my style - the direction of this new season reminds me of Naruto or something (that Cornello-hulk scene was completely ridiculous). rolleyes.gif


Don't you think you might be jumping the gun a bit there? It's only been three episodes, and even you noted the direction of the show seems to be improving. I suggest giving it a bit more time. Granted, it wouldn't hook a newcomer like me as FMA1 did, but I think the emotional core is there, and as long as it's not swallowed up by silly tropes, I'll enjoy this show even if it's an inferior product.

Oh, and even at its weakest, FMA has never been as formulaic and derivative as Naruto. I think most instalments of any version of the story have more intellectual weight than any episode of Naruto.
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QUOTE (Kaosugoji @ Apr 19 2009, 11:30 PM) *
QUOTE (His Name is Unknown @ Apr 19 2009, 06:00 PM) *
The pacing was a bit better, I enjoyed the extra development Rose received, and the direction is beginning to handle the emotional aspect of the brother's struggle in a more refined fashion - but having said that, I did not enjoy this episode.

The entire tenor of this series is too light-hearted and episodic for my tastes (zomg! philosopher's stone *cue recycled 3pic Latin choir*). I think I'm going to call it quits now and just enjoy the first series and the manga, because so far I've been disappointed by the new show.

It's too soon for me to put my all my thoughts in order, but suffice to say this show feels (to me) hollow and amateurish compared with season one. I guess it might have something to do with the fact that I'm currently watching Monster, and what that show accomplishes in a 24 minute episode compared to this is somewhat ridiculous. Slow-paced, thought provoking shows are more my style - the direction of this new season reminds me of Naruto or something (that Cornello-hulk scene was completely ridiculous). rolleyes.gif


Don't you think you might be jumping the gun a bit there? It's only been three episodes, and even you noted the direction of the show seems to be improving. I suggest giving it a bit more time. Granted, it wouldn't hook a newcomer like me as FMA1 did, but I think the emotional core is there, and as long as it's not swallowed up by silly tropes, I'll enjoy this show even if it's an inferior product.

Oh, and even at its weakest, FMA has never been as formulaic and derivative as Naruto. I think most instalments of any version of the story have more intellectual weight than any episode of Naruto.


Ah, I didn't mean to imply the plot/content of FMA was on the level of something like Nauruto buth rather that the direction of this new series seems to be focusing on trivial elements like short jokes at the expense of more weighty themes like resurrection, brotherhood, and desire that the first show tapped so well.

Another nuance of my statement, which perhaps did not shine through due to my subpar written expression was the fact that I consider FMA2's direction to be like Naruto in comparison to the equivalent episodes from season one, rather than due to a lack of creativity on the part of the creative team. My statement was actually much more specific than it may have appeared in the initial post, so please take this response as the full expression of my original intent.

As for whether I'm jumping the gun - considering that my original comments were based on my gut reactions, not really. I don't have a pressing need to see the manga animated because I'm happy with it as a piece of literature; and considering the fact that I found the first season to be something of a minor anime masterpiece, and this new season to be lacking from the start, there's no motivation for me to continue watching. Plus, I hate being a rain-cloud, especially over something which I enjoy as much as FMA, so I think it's probably more prudent to restrict my posting to constructive criticism on the manga board. I know a lot of people are enjoying this new season, and since I'm not, I'll be leaving the discussion to those more invested in the topic.

One final point concerning my decision: the set-up chapters that Bones seems to be rushing through to get to the 'real plot' were my favorite parts of the entire story. The brother's bond, the failed transmutation attempt, the events in Liore, Nina, and Hughes' death were THE highlights of the FMA saga in my opinion, and provided the emotional anchor which allowed me to so thoroughly enjoy the story which then unfolded. There are definitely a few more scenes from the manga that I consider to achieve this level (Roy's fight with Lust and Ed's defense of Winry against Scar being the which most readily come to mind); however, I enjoy them as they are in printed form, and the glossing over of my favorite material in FMA2 is really too bothersome for me to continue watching. Upon reflection, it is this fact, combined with my earlier complaint which render Brotherhood as an unenjoyable experience for me. I hope that clarifies.
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post Apr 19 2009, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE (Kaosugoji @ Apr 19 2009, 10:30 PM) *
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The pacing was a bit better, I enjoyed the extra development Rose received, and the direction is beginning to handle the emotional aspect of the brother's struggle in a more refined fashion - but having said that, I did not enjoy this episode.

The entire tenor of this series is too light-hearted and episodic for my tastes (zomg! philosopher's stone *cue recycled 3pic Latin choir*). I think I'm going to call it quits now and just enjoy the first series and the manga, because so far I've been disappointed by the new show.


Don't you think you might be jumping the gun a bit there? It's only been three episodes, and even you noted the direction of the show seems to be improving. I suggest giving it a bit more time. Granted, it wouldn't hook a newcomer like me as FMA1 did, but I think the emotional core is there, and as long as it's not swallowed up by silly tropes, I'll enjoy this show even if it's an inferior product.


I was sort of thinking the same thing. How you can you base what this anime is going to turn out like on only three episodes, especially when most of the beginning story is identical to the first anime? =/ Naturally I can't see them being as thorough with the beginning episodes as they were with the first anime. I really think it's a bit too soon to call it quits. You should learn to give things the benefit of the doubt before making judgements, especially based on what you know in regards to the manga and the first anime. Oh, please don't misunderstand btw. I'm honestly not trying to be rude. I'm just asking is all. ^^;


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post Apr 19 2009, 10:11 PM
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This series seems completely half-assed and most of all, it feels dead inside. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

I'm totally rooting for it to get better. Especially since there are little hints that the creators are putting some care into the adaptation. But I'm not going to keep my hopes up at this point.



I guess I got too excited and raised my expectations to start with. sad.gif



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post Apr 19 2009, 10:15 PM
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I liked this episode, I think it was the best so far. The first one was a good intro to the characters, but I didn't really like the Isaac plot. The second one had great plot but it seemed rushed. This one basically covered what it needed to cover in Lior, in one episode instead of two.

I liked most of the humor, but the one with Rose pointing the gun at Al instead of Ed did not mesh with the mood of the scene at all. Perhaps they could have still had her make the mistake but the correction should be on a more serious note.

The expression on Cornello's face and the sound effects when he discovers that he is being miked is priceless. Classic FMA humor.

I wish they had kept the scene with Rose hiding inside of Al's armor - that was pretty powerful in the manga. It really wouldn't have been too hard to add. But I suppose it would have been harder to do the Rose/gun incident that way, which I do think was an interesting twist. I suppose it was a fair trade-off.

I didn't mind the split-screens, I didn't even really notice them.

The confrontation between Rose and the Elrics at the end was great. Both Ed and Rose's expressions and the emotion in their voices were perfect (Rose's desperation, Ed's sadness). A great FMA moment. And unlike someone else said, I think the music during that scene was quite fitting.

I'm glad they removed the whole bird-chimera thing. The boyfriend-chimera wasn't in the manga anyway, and one chimera is enough, especially when the next episode will probably well... have something to do with a chimera.

My only concern is that it seems that they will be doing the entire Nina/Tucker story in one episode. The old manga, in taking two episodes, gave more time to get attached to Nina before her death. Anyhow, I'm looking forward to the next one, let's see how well they can do it smile.gif.
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post Apr 19 2009, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (His Name is Unknown @ Apr 19 2009, 08:00 PM) *
The pacing was a bit better, I enjoyed the extra development Rose received, and the direction is beginning to handle the emotional aspect of the brother's struggle in a more refined fashion - but having said that, I did not enjoy this episode.

The entire tenor of this series is too light-hearted and episodic for my tastes (zomg! philosopher's stone *cue recycled 3pic Latin choir*). I think I'm going to call it quits now and just enjoy the first series and the manga, because so far I've been disappointed by the new show.

It's too soon for me to put my all my thoughts in order, but suffice to say this show feels (to me) hollow and amateurish compared with season one. I guess it might have something to do with the fact that I'm currently watching Monster, and what that show accomplishes in a 24 minute episode compared to this is somewhat ridiculous. Slow-paced, thought provoking shows are more my style - the direction of this new season reminds me of Naruto or something (that Cornello-hulk scene was completely ridiculous). rolleyes.gif

I think if FMA:B moved at the same pace it would not do that well, since the manga was more fast-paced than Monster and because Monster is aimed at an older crowd than FMA is. I don't really think it's fair to compare Monster's pacing with FMA because they're so different. I agree wholeheartedly with you that the pacing in FMA:B has been really sloppy and amateurish, I just don't think it would be good if it was the same as Monster's; there needs to be a happy medium. I hope you decide to give it another chance, though, because I enjoy reading your thoughts on the forums. And I hope you enjoy the rest of Monster. biggrin.gif

My thoughts on this episode:

Maybe it's because I don't care as much about the Loir arc as much as I do about the Elric's past, but I felt this episode was better than the previous one. Still a disappointment, and still not handled as well as it should have been, but I was able to enjoy it. I'm glad they got through the Loir arc in one episode, since I've always felt the Loir arc was one of the weaker arcs in the manga and I didn't like how FMA1 expanded on it. I thought the animation was nice, though I could see that they got lazy in some areas; I guess they're saving their budget for other things, which is understandable, I suppose.

The humor was definitely out of place in some areas. I'm tired of the redundant "Ed is short" jokes, even though there are a lot of them in the manga, they just don't work as well in anime. I just hope we don't have many in the next episode (except maybe one in the beginning), that would be really off-putting.

The characterization of Ed and Al was good. I love how devious Ed is, and I love that Al is doing more than in FMA1. Rose's characterization struck me as odd, though, because one moment she seemed all innocent and naive, and the next she was holding a gun and about to shoot Ed. It was just... meh. I hope she redeems herself if she comes back later on.

HULK!Cornello was ridiculous and completely pointless. I understand letting the writers have some freedom, but none of their insertions in FMA:B have been good so far. Some of them were good in the first anime, like how they expanded on the Nina plot and gave us more time to grow attached to her, but the whole point of FMA:B is so it can be like the manga. Silly, stereotypically shounen additions like HULK!Cornello is just doing more harm than good. If it's not broken, don't fix it. I'm not getting my hopes up that the next episode will be better. sad.gif

Also, wayyyy too many splitscreens.
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post Apr 19 2009, 11:26 PM
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I'm not so bothered by the fact that he turned himself into The Hulk as I am by his not shutting up about being God's representative. I can understand him being a megalomaniac and believing in his own lies, but he seemed more two-dimensional than I wanted him to.

Good episode though. I enjoyed it. Not without its problems, but I think it's the most consistent in its quality. I really liked the additional character development for Rose, the mumor was better placed and didn't feel all that excessive or intrusive (that scene where Cornello discover's he's been played is absolutely priceless). Al indirectly asking for Rose to shoot his brother seemed a bit odd though.
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It's definitely been interesting to read comments on what's been giving everyone the most headaches, which seem to be the pace and the tone/direction of the series.

On pacing: I agree that the pace so far has been rushed, but the funny thing is that each time I go back and re-watch the episode, it slows down for me. When I ask my friend, who is a new-comer to the series, whether the story is confusing or feels too fast, he says it doesn't feel that way for him. My other friend who is also watching FMA for the first time feels that it's fast-paced, but not necessarily too fast for him to grasp what's happening.

I think what may be happening is that when I get ready to watch a new episode, I already have a preconceived story in my head-- of what dialogue is supposed to go where and which scene follows another, and also what kind of emotion/feel is attached to each scene-- that when I actually watch the events unfold on-screen, the differences that pop up make me feel instantly uncomfortable. My internal narrative is getting disrupted, which makes the pace seem too fast or rushed to me.

So when Rose gets left out of the diner scene in the beginning, I subconsciously think "WTF, why did they not even introduce Rose properly?" which makes it harder for me to enjoy the episode as it's being presented. When I go back later and re-watch the episode, I can see the reasoning behind the change: the only things we really learn about Rose in that scene is that she's very pious, she's a nice girl, and she lost her boyfriend in a tragic accident, all of which are covered in 1) the scene with her kneeling and praying, 2) her overall demeanor and interaction with the Elrics, and 3) Cornello's admission. I especially liked how Rose was shown in the temple praying instead of having the diner owner and Rose talk about her going to the temple-- it's always a good thing when directors follow the "show, don't tell" rule.

At any rate, I think the main problem is that the last two episodes have each covered at least two chapters' worth of manga material, which makes the abbreviations really noticeable. I have complete faith that the pacing will be just right in the next episode because it'll likely cover only one chapter's worth.

On tone/direction: It's interesting to hear people say that this series seems shallow and the humor a little overdone. I think it really all depends on what you think the FMA series is about. FMA:B isn't a character-driven philosophical drama like FMA1-- it's much closer to the tone of the manga, which I think will always be a relative of the shounen genre. Wacky humor and heavy action has always been a part of shounen, so I don't feel weird when I watch super deformed Ed and Al, and rejoice that there's finally some more humorous/silly moments in the anime. FMA isn't as shallow as Naruto or Bleach, of course, but the archetypical shounen theme of finding the strength to overcome all obstacles really rings true in FMA, and it's something that the director has expressed when asked to sum up the feel of FMA. I completely agree with the poster who said earlier that FMA is really just a good balance between the light-hearted and the heavy moments. It's certainly more intellectually-driven than most any shounen series, as well.

The first few volumes of FMA for me set up the challenge and premise of the story: it's clear that many terrible things have happened (Ed and Al losing their mother and their bodies, the Ishbal massacre, etc.). But then I feel the series takes a turn after all of this has occurred: what are these characters going to do about their situations? The rest of the story is about overcoming their tragedies, and finding their own paths and growing as individuals as their journey continues. The overall feel, I think, is much more hopeful than the tone of the first anime series, where because of the limited number of chapters available the overall tone was adapted to fit the darker earlier chapters of FMA. I can see why people who fell in love with the emotion and depth of the first series would be disappointed, but really, these two series are completely different genres, and I think should be treated as such.

Damn, didn't think I'd write this much XD.
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The pacing was fast at the beginning, but slowed down after that. I enjoyed the episode, but I was never a huge fan of the Lior story. The content (religious man convinces people to follow his fake cause for his own greedy benefit) is just too familiar to me. Looking forward to Tucker and Nina though - a very emotional story.
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It's interesting to hear people say that this series seems shallow and the humor a little overdone. I think it really all depends on what you think the FMA series is about. FMA:B isn't a character-driven philosophical drama like FMA1-- it's much closer to the tone of the manga, which I think will always be a relative of the shounen genre. Wacky humor and heavy action has always been a part of shounen, so I don't feel weird when I watch super deformed Ed and Al, and rejoice that there's finally some more humorous/silly moments in the anime. FMA isn't as shallow as Naruto or Bleach, of course, but the archetypical shounen theme of finding the strength to overcome all obstacles really rings true in FMA, and it's something that the director has expressed when asked to sum up the feel of FMA. I completely agree with the poster who said earlier that FMA is really just a good balance between the light-hearted and the heavy moments. It's certainly more intellectually-driven than most any shounen series, as well.


I must say that I couldn´t agree with you more. I adore both the original work of Arakawa-sensei, and the original series. However, I do find that the tone between both of these works diverges a great deal, as do the central themes. I agree that Arakawa-sensei´s work is incredibly intellectually-driven and has an extreme amount of depth in comparison to other shounen series. (There are other shounen manga series out there, with a great deal of substance that makes you think.) Yet, the author still retains the humour, the action, and many of the themes central in shounen manga that generally target one´s personal will to continue onward and overcome obstacles. I always viewed the central themes in Arakawa-sensei´s manga as movement and personal growth. The origina anime series always seemed so much darker in tone and tackled much more philosophical themes such as the nature of man, the fight between good and evil, and a slew of other heavy-handed subjects. One of the central themes in the original series was that of brotherhood, which was exemplified in the characters of Edward and Alphonse. While Edward and Alphonse are extremely loyal to one another in the manga, we do see times when they are seperated and one their own. I always found this so much more realistic, because it lets the reader comprehend that although the brothers are a team in every sense of the word, they will not always be together. There are times in life that we are seperated from the ones we love, and forced to embark on our own personal journies.

I believe that the anime will center much more on the themes of movement and growth (interpret this as you will) and overcoming hardship, grief, and personal loss. Many of the characters in the manga are on their own personal journey, and attempt to move forward in order to obtain it. I know that in the manga we have seen Ed grow from a cocky and rather self-centered teenager to a young man who is strong-willed and resolute, undyling loyal, and who shares an unbreakable bond with his brother. I agree that the tone is the manga is much more "hopeful": "Yes, I can overcome hardship and pain and move forward to achieve my goal." Hopefully, the directors will be able to capture this in the new series.


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I'm with the previous two posters as regards the message of the manga vs. FMA1. I generally feel that FMA1 is very angst heavy and logic poor, though, so I'm probably not the most objective judge.

Regarding this episode: it made me think that I quite like the way they've structured the storytelling so far. In the sense that, in the 1st episode, they introduced the characters and mentioned the sin in the Elrics' past --> 2nd episode deals with human transmutation --> 3rd episode talks about the possibilities of resurrection and introduces us to a chimera --> 4th episode will centre on the chimera plot. They're sort of like beads on a string, each adding more detail to another.

Although, in contrast to a lot of people here, I really, really dislike the whole Tucker episode and I'd be happy if they never included it in FMA2 at all. Except that it brings, y'know, plot development, and we can't do without that. Blah.

This episode also made me happy, because in it, we see manga Ed. I rejoice at seeing the angsty, woe-is-me, FMA1!Ed gone. Manga Ed is a devious, manipulative and extremely clever and talented kid, who - as other people before me have pointed out - has great character growth. FMA1 Ed never felt like much of a genius to me - we rarely see him act clever. We see him fight and rush into situations, but, apart from the manga moment with Yoki in Youswell, he's not the brightest bulb in the box when it comes to getting what he wants/ dealing with people/ life in general. Manga Ed, on the other hand, I trust to find a way out of any situation he gets himself into - and it's great to see him animated. That utterly unimpressed expression when Cornello goes on his take-over-the-world spiel and the devious one after? The reaction to the fake stone shattering? The wonderful face he pulls when transmuting his arm into a crazy blade? The conversation with Rose at the end? I feel that this character is alive. And fun to watch =) Because he'll spend more time actually moving forward than angsting, which is always a good thing in my book.

And yeah, of course I'm projecting a lot of what I already know about manga Ed onto this FMA2 one, but the signs are there. And they make me very happy.
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