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FMA: Brotherhood Opening Theme Vid Discussion Thread, including visual, and sound
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post Oct 12 2009, 01:07 AM
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Fell in love with it at first viewing, maybe because I'm completely digging Ed's outfit. The singer's voice comes off a bit nasally, but I love the tune to bits. Also, the animation is amazing. I mean, ignoring the spoilers and the possibly misleading scenes, my heart kind of fluttered when I saw Al fighting off Envy to protect Ed, and the entire Ed trying to reach Al from Envy's mouth. And it was great to see Olivier and the crew, as well as Kimbley.

Only thing I didn't like was Scar's animation. He looked a bit funky.

Still, awesome opening. I think it ranks up there with the first OP for me.
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post Oct 12 2009, 01:14 AM
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Definitely love all 3 OPs but I think that for me, Golden Time Lover has supplanted Again as my favorite right now.

I love the beats used as well as it's a bit more catchier than Again, but I always found Hologram the catchiest of the 3.

Either way, it's a fantastic OP and can't wait for my copies of the CD single to arrive smile.gif
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post Oct 13 2009, 10:57 AM
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ZOMG! Ed floating and Al in the background was awesome! I loved Kimbley's part when he had the stone on his tongue and was swallowed by the souls. Very creepy very evil and the animation was great. Everyone traumatized by Ishbal was also very good. I loved when Roy looked up and glared into the eyes of King Bradley with Hughes next to him. (Seeing Hughes made me realize how much I miss him sad.gif .) I love the song it's still 2nd place to Again though.

Oh yeah the Briggs gang! *Squee* I love Olivier and Miles they make me feel warm inside. happy.gif Jk. I do love them though.


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post Oct 15 2009, 09:13 AM
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This is the best opening! I love it..........after again smile.gif well done FM team!
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post Jan 10 2010, 01:19 AM
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For what keyhole let me see, I think they did an awesome work with this 4th op except for 1 thing:
-Lack of Hohenheim's past...
On the good points:
+Ed and Al separated...
+Epic Greedling vs Bradley
+Epic Selim pwning
+Marcoh, Mei and co. beating Envy!!



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post Jan 10 2010, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (RoytheFlameAlchemist @ Jan 10 2010, 02:19 AM) *

+Epic Greedling vs Bradley


I guess that's based on the first round in Bradley's house?

Is there really no Hohenheim's past? Did you see the whole OP? If not I guess the parts you didn't see could've contained some of him and Homonculus.
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post Jan 10 2010, 01:38 AM
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The great song got great visuals, I really like the new opening. The animation fit well with the lyrics, like showing Ed and Al seperated. And there were lots of spoilers for the upcoming episodes just like the previous openings.

Can't wait to see it in better quality. biggrin.gif


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post Jan 10 2010, 06:02 AM
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I've expected a bit different visuals Young Hoho papa, young Hoho papa ;;, but these aren't bad either. We start off with a very dynamic and brief summary of the main plotpoint, then we move to the nicely stylized logo (I only wish it hasn't changed to the casual one). I don't like that running-at-the-each-side-of-the-human-transmutation-circle, but oh well. Some sexy looking Ed afterwards. And then the scene with people appearing in the front of both Elrics, really cool reminder that they've got someone to count on. Really badass looking Pride here. I just wonder why the scene afterwards was drawn as a daylight one, the night aspect was very important one. Kimblee is so awesome to x'plode things in mid-air! Some old Hoho...I've always liked the style Central City was drawn in, especially that Headquarters reflectors. Logo appearing for the third time and that's it.

The whole thing is very nice to watch, but I got a feeling I would get bored easily by the visualisation. They're action-packed, but nothing too special in them.


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post Jan 10 2010, 06:20 AM
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I absolutely love the new opening! The animation is really really cool, I like the fact that they put in spoilers for upcoming episodes - that's what I love about FMA openings. Greedlin vs. Bradley wasn't bad either and the moment that friends and allies appeared all around Ed and Al was so damn epic. And Pride... he's got devil's eyes! There's just one thing that bothers me - why does Hohenheim almost in every op appear looking in the direction of Central? xD
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post Jan 10 2010, 09:03 AM
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Well the new opening and ending are nice (especially the Pride stuff) but I wish there was more reference to actual upcoming events. For example Doctor Marcoh, Scar and Chimeras facing Envy instead of Ranfan and Fu...who weren't even there! The Sloth and Kimblee thing is weird too. Some young Hohenheim and Homonculus would've been nice...young Hoho was in the first opening but not this one where he'd actually be relevant!

I realise though that the animators probably have more fun making the ops when they take liberties with characters shown fighting each other so I don't mind too much and both the op and ed are still really good.

The final op and ed should definitely utterly destroy these ones though.
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post Jan 10 2010, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE (Mr. Deathy @ Jan 10 2010, 10:03 AM) *
Doctor Marcoh, Scar and Chimeras facing Envy instead of Ranfan and Fu...who weren't even there!


Finally Ranfan is shown owning Envy like she should have been shown doing around episode 19 tongue.gif


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post Jan 10 2010, 02:43 PM
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I unfortunately must disagree with the majority opinion regarding the fourth FMA:B opening. While I thoroughly enjoyed Chemistry's theme Period, I did not care for the majority of the animation. My most significant "complaint" is that I did not find the visuals to match well with the pacing and tone of the music. Further, concerning the video in and of itself, I felt as though the animators inserted several short "scenes" into the introduction that appeared forced, trite, and unimaginative. Although there were several aspects of the video that I did find entertaining, these instances were largely overshadowed by the piece's shortcomings in my eyes. Overall, I would have to rate this opening as my least favorite thus far.



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post Jan 11 2010, 03:26 PM
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I'd put this OP on par with our last one. It's very lucid/disjointed/almost dreamy to me. I liked the use of color here, and the way they highlighted both Ed and Al equally. True to the manga or not, I liked the action scenes. Wish there was more Ling and young Hoho, though. But I'm a big fan boy on those fronts (obviously).
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post Jan 11 2010, 04:16 PM
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The new op and ed... I have honestly always expected FMA Brotherhood's OPs to be better, more imaginative, with more depth than normal shonen ops. because FMA is much more than a shonen anime. But although every goes on about how good the new OP is, I have to say it just seemed like a bunch of scenes and stills thrown together, and doesn't even time well with the music! (which i found to be well, forgetful. i forgot the tune like 1 min after i heard it).

So FMA's OP is now down to the par of well, Code Geass. Basically flashing scenes and characters. The only good bit was the fight scene. Urgh. Wish there was another 'again'. The 1st OP still the best, with so much story, good music and animation. T_T


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post Jan 11 2010, 07:08 PM
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^^Agreed. I do enjoy the song, it was pretty cool, but the animation just... didn't look right. I don't mean to nitpick, but the whole running around the circle looked ridiculous. The part where Ed and Al ran right past each other seemed like something cool and creative, but then they started to fidget around a lot, and that irked at me quite a bit. And the crowd of people, as someone else said was a good touch. And then the fight scenes. I actually enjoyed Pride's Philosopher Stone eruption/emergence (mostly cuz I love that kid), but I didn't understand why they had the fight with Al took place in Genosis with it's rocky, sandy landscape and whatnot (did Al fight Pride in sand-land? I forgot happy.gif). Not to mention, in the daylight as someone else said. Maybe cuz it would look like all the fights took place at night (considering all the other action sequences in this OP). It also seemed like they were overdosing on the 3D-CGI-effect type thing, and the wind (but most anime do that..). However, I don't really think the OP when as far down as Code Geass's... I don't think the OP was that flashy...

Nobody attacked the ED yet, so I'll do that. Beginning of the ED was pretty... ED-ish. Y'know, move the scenery around the character type stuff. Then I saw Hawkeye's tattoo and I was like "oh... awesome" and then she moved, or rther, turned into Soldier-Hawkeye, which made me think "...okay." Then a still of Roy which made me wonder why he didn't move... or the raindrops for that matter. Then more stills. Then, a zoom in of Hoho, which I thought was horribly off sync. And then Ed fights Pride... and Pride's shadows are moving pretty slow. And Winry, why was she walking like a limping horse? Sure, they probably wanted to emphasize that she now "Walks with strength and with a purpose", but... like a horse? Rly? It reminded me of when Misa was introduced in Death Note.

So to sum it up, I kinda thought the OP and ED were off in animation. By... like a lot. But I enjoyed the music.
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