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Chapter 93 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Mar 12 2009, 12:11 PM
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Thanks Kasumisty for pointing that out about the Chapter Riza cries. I forgot about that.


QUOTE (AA battery @ Mar 12 2009, 12:25 AM) *
I can't believe that Pride would go as far as "eating" Kimbley... o_o but oh well, it's Pride. Is the philosopher's stone still in Kimbley's possession...? I suppose so... Al and the others don't look like they had the time to pick it up.


Don't forget he ate Gluttony, so he has his appetite.


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post Mar 12 2009, 01:10 PM
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@AAbattery: I know Winry cannot fight. And it is unlikely that she will show up in a battle scene, I was just wondering if she was ever going to be mentioned again. That is all.

Anyways, I also liked Yoki's scene "I did something!"
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post Mar 12 2009, 02:25 PM
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Don't worry FMAobsessed Winry will come back because Ed said he wants that apple pie and she has to cry tears of joy and everyone has to get their happy ending well...the good guys at least. I want to know where the hell RanFan is. I wonder how or if she gets gets Ling back.


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post Mar 12 2009, 02:27 PM
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I don't think Winry will be showing up any time soon. They made a big deal about how she was going to wait in safety for now, making pies and stuff (unless she plans on throwing them at the zombies tongue.gif) . There's nothing else she can really do, and I hope she doesn't do anything drastic because it'd probably end fatally for her...and I certainly don't want that!

The only reason I'd say the Riza thing wouldn't happen is because Arakawa usually does the opposite of what people predict, but there are a few scenes that came to my mind when I read the recent posts about her:

After seeing this, Wrath says this.

And when Riza was attacked by Gluttony, Roy associated it with Hughes' death and became frantic. http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/37/33/

Envy likes to play dirty as we saw with what he said about Hughes' wife, so...well, who knows...it's all speculation. I'm just wondering if Arakawa would be that predictable...

I thought Wrath was meant to be the one to take care of him, but since he's MIA and Envy's right there, next to Father's lair, he might *try* to take on the job.

Which brings me back to wondering what'll go down between Hoho and Father. Will there be an epic duel? Everyone's coming to Father (or being herded to him in Al&Co's case) but what can he do if all his 'children' are scattered everywhere (what remains of them) and Hoho's kicking his @$$?


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post Mar 12 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Mar 12 2009, 06:27 PM) *
After seeing this, Wrath says this.

And when Riza was attacked by Gluttony, Roy associated it with Hughes' death and became frantic. http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/37/33/

I was reading that manga TODAY! That's why my fear kinda came back. XD
But you're probably right. Roy wouldn't let anyone kill Riza. He would die before he let her get killed.


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post Mar 12 2009, 04:02 PM
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I don't think Winry will be showing up any time soon.


I think we shouldn't underestimate Wrath's power of nuisance... Somehow I think he would include either Riza or Winry in his little course of action.
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QUOTE (Sannom @ Mar 12 2009, 07:02 PM) *
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I don't think Winry will be showing up any time soon.


I think we shouldn't underestimate Wrath's power of nuisance... Somehow I think he would include either Riza or Winry in his little course of action.


Only reason I wasn't thinking that was because they already had Winry hostage when she came to Briggs and they tried to get Ed to work with them by using her against him or something...but anything is possible, I guess. Who knows what Arakawa will do next? (I feel like I've been saying this a lot lately LOL)


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QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Mar 12 2009, 05:27 PM) *
Which brings me back to wondering what'll go down between Hoho and Father. Will there be an epic duel?


OMG, I hope not. Not because I don't think it would be cool or anything. No, it would be awesome! It's just, it would be like when to people pick the same character in Soul Caliber! They wearing different colors, and there are slight differences in what style they're wearing, but you still get lost and end up thinking you're the other guy and you loose!(Wait, I had a point there, but it sorta disappeared.....Oh, well. You know what I mean.)


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post Mar 13 2009, 06:10 AM
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well i just finshing reading ch 93 of the manga and i want the next chapter of the manga to be out now. unsure.gif unsure.gif

that was such good chapter. sad.gif


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post Mar 13 2009, 09:03 AM
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I read this chapter yesterday on onemanga. I adore it. smile.gif


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post Mar 13 2009, 12:23 PM
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I have no clue what Arakawa will do with Father and Hoho. All I know is Father said Hoho will become part of his body. I'm interested to see what they both have planned. Also MIA are Izumi, Greed, and Ran Fan.


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QUOTE (Animeoldtimer @ Mar 13 2009, 03:23 PM) *
I have no clue what Arakawa will do with Father and Hoho. All I know is Father said Hoho will become part of his body. I'm interested to see what they both have planned. Also MIA are Izumi, Greed, and Ran Fan.



oh ya i complety forgot about father and Hoho. i wonder when they are coming back for the most epic fight in this centry. ( sorry i can't spell worth poop at the moment, aslo i can't type either. dry.gif )


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post Mar 14 2009, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Liska @ Mar 13 2009, 02:17 AM) *
QUOTE (HisshouBuraiKen @ Mar 12 2009, 09:50 AM) *
QUOTE (Andie @ Mar 10 2009, 06:17 PM) *
And did Pride deliberately send Al and the others in Central?

It's too bad there wasn't another beat after Hawkeye said "useless", we almost got to see Mustang growing mushrooms again XD


I thought about that too. I absolutely love those mushrooms ))


I think Hawkeye already made her revenge by ignoring Mustang right after Mustang told Scar not to order him.


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post Mar 15 2009, 06:44 AM
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QUOTE (Sannom @ Mar 12 2009, 04:02 PM) *
I think we shouldn't underestimate Wrath's power of nuisance... Somehow I think he would include either Riza or Winry in his little course of action.
Well, let's wait until we see which side Wrath is actually on. It strikes me as unusual that he sent Winry to Briggs- right into the good guy's hands!- or gave Riza a chance to run to Roy's group instead of keeping both of them under the Homunculus' watchful control. If he is on the good guy's side, it makes sense. If he's still a villain...pretty stupid.

Anime vs. Manga
The scales of major characters whose permanent deaths in both versions helped the story seems balanced in importance. The deaths of Gran, most of the Greed-chimeras, and Lust's death worked in both. Hughes' worked well in both (though AnimeHughes had the advantage of having a bigger role and the way the series structured his death as the midway point of the series). Bedo's death served the manga more (freeing GreedLing). Gluttony and Kimbley's deaths served the anime more than the manga (I dunno; opening gates, creating animate bombs/philosopher stones, and causing emotional trauma has more depth then becoming Homunculus food).

Finally...
Roy vs. Envy! I hoped for this fight since the anime was drawing to a close on Cartoon Network (not that AnimeEnvy's fate was a disappointment). However...
1) I get this horrible feeling that, just like the anime, our last view of Hughes is going to be spoiled by Envy's nasty impersonation (at least the anime gave Nazi Hughes a happy ending).
2) Shouldn't Envy's fate go to someone else? Roy already took one Homunculus down.
3) Seeing the Avenging Roy is cool, but isn't he falling into the same path that hurt his anime counterpart? He has to be the better man to honor Hughes, and killing Envy for vengeance will betray that vision (Killing Lust was a different matter- self-defense and protecting Riza- and Roy probably knows the train explosion only slowed Bradley, not kill him). Envy should die for the sake of mankind, not to satisfy the angry grief over a lost friend (which in truth, will bring no fulfillment).
4) Isn't Envy supposed to freeze instead of burn, unless Roy can somehow drain the heat from an area, lowing the temperature to below zero.


I got to dust off that Buffyverse/FMAverse fanfiction of mine. This also involves the butt-kicking of a certain Homunculus.
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Claudius- Your last bit about Envy brought up a few points that bugged me, too. The third and fourth points are of valid concern to me. Four for obvious reasons once it's read, and three because, well, exactly the way you said it. Your second point is also a sticking point with me. I really don't think we'll have a repeat. (At least, I really hope not.) To the contrary, I wonder if something's gonna happen early on in the game that plays into 2) and 4).

Thanks for the food for thought! Now I get to wait in suspense for the next month.


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