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Chapter 87 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Sep 18 2008, 11:36 AM
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Concerning the Armstrongs,

I really feel that the panels that focus on the two are really just showing that one is the foil character of the other, whether that affects the plot at all remains to be witnessed. I do like General Armstrong becuase she is the good guy who seems to brush off emotion, unlike Ed, Al, Alex, Mustang, Winry, Izumi (to some degree)

I almost feel like her "bad guy" counter part is Kimberly, in their dominating prescense in the series. (they also become major players in teh plot at the same time, probably just coincidence)

(i actually woudl think it is awesome if she turned evil, she would make an amazing bad person, despite what i said up there smile.gif

The thing that is driving me crazy is that the bad guys seem to be getting less powerful

Scar, Izumi, Hohenheim, Ed, Al (maybe), Mustang, Armstrongs, Riza, Miles, Grueman, Chimeras, Greed, Ling, Foo, Ran Fan (really, they just need ran fan)

vs

Pride, Father, Sloth, Wrath(maybe), Envy (maybe)......

Idk, someone refute this, so i can feel actual suspense!



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cuase you might get run over, or you might just get...shot.
Never had not static I just get it off my... chest.
Neve had to battle with my bullet proof...vest.
Take a small example take a tidbit from meeee, take all your money give it all to charity.
Love is what I got It's within my reach
And this is sublime's sound straight from long beach
Punk back to you,You finally get what you deserve.
You try to test out,You'll probably get served.
Love's what i got, dont start a riot
you'll feel it when the dance gets hot.

Love isss... its what I got
(just remember that)

I dont cry when my dog runs away, I dont get angry at the bills I have to pay
I dont get angry when my smokes pot, hits the bottle and goes back to the rocks
f!#$ and fighting it's all the same, playing with louie's dog's the only way to stay sane


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post Sep 18 2008, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(Little Fixster @ Sep 13 2008, 12:52 PM) *
I want to know if having Mrs. Bradley is going to affect the Fuhrer at all. I'm sure he's alive, maybe it will force him to come out of hiding?
He choose her as his wife himself I'm sure he feels something for her.


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post Sep 19 2008, 12:08 AM
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He choose her as his wife himself I'm sure he feels something for her.


I'm sure he chose her after she slapped him laugh.gif
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post Sep 19 2008, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Sannom @ Sep 19 2008, 12:08 AM) *
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He choose her as his wife himself I'm sure he feels something for her.


I'm sure he chose her after she slapped him laugh.gif


lol, very true, he likes people that amuse him, and I'm sure her slapping him amused him even more than Ed pointing that spear at him during his practical part of the test and Olivier killing Raven to get herself a seat with the rest of the brass.


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post Sep 22 2008, 02:56 AM
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QUOTE(Cardboard Box Junkie @ Sep 18 2008, 07:06 AM) *
If the thought process was Miles' then the whole lot would have pointed from Miles' head.

Grumman quite obviously went against his instructions to march on central, so Miles managed to pick up on his intentions from that.

If anything, what Miles thought immediately after is probably slightly mistranslated. Who knows, he could have been thinking "I wonder what he's planning . . ."

Those thoughts came from Grumman. The last thought was Miles. No question, no uncertainty. We can see it with our own eyes. Fast one's have been pulled on the reader before, but you can't discount something that is right there in front of your face.

To answer your final question: So someone can warn Mustang that Grumman is going turncoat on them . . . duh.



No, it's no translation mistake, Miles' final line is there to show that those last few panels were Miles' imagination, with Grumman thinking like that. It's just a tease to us readers from Arakawa... or a hint, if it ends up being true, we don't know the old man's intentions, that's true.

QUOTE(APalchemist5 @ Sep 18 2008, 08:36 PM) *
The thing that is driving me crazy is that the bad guys seem to be getting less powerful

Scar, Izumi, Hohenheim, Ed, Al (maybe), Mustang, Armstrongs, Riza, Miles, Grueman, Chimeras, Greed, Ling, Foo, Ran Fan (really, they just need ran fan)

vs

Pride, Father, Sloth, Wrath(maybe), Envy (maybe)......

Idk, someone refute this, so i can feel actual suspense!


Put that way it's a little unfair. Remember to add to the "bad guys" side, for now, the whole of Amestris' military (sans East and North, which for now are stuck at the east, probably they'll attack later). All the main characters have come to a situation they have to hide and move surreptitiously (is that a word? happy.gif; ) to not get into trouble...

Even that, though, it's true that things are going quite smooth... In fact the bad guys have been slowly but firmly being downsized for quite a while, now. Ever since volume 10 or so.
But I take it that it's part of the manga's maturing "message" whatsoever... FMA's been quite a 'positive' manga for a long time now, , just compare volume 2's Tucker & Nina & the brothers' defeat with, for example, Volume 16, with Sloth's "attack" on Briggs (the first big events of each "half" of the manga), it hasn't had a rather tragic scene ever since the Devil's Nest raid (Ishval FB notwithstanding).
Guess you could say that since it is a maturing themed manga, the situation has been evolving altogether with the Elrics' resolve... The more they are decided to not let anyone die and the stronger/more mature they get, the less bad things happen around them.


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First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 87 here. smile.gif

Those who have already read further chapters are also welcome to join the discussions, but please do not post any future chapter content on this thread.

This thread is Spoiler Party thread for chapter 87 content, meaning, posters do not have to use Spoiler tags while posting about chapter 87 content on this thread. smile.gif


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