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Chapter 85 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Jul 12 2008, 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(jacksparrow589 @ Jul 12 2008, 08:34 PM) *
I really want Al back! But wouldn't that mean opening the Gate, too? How do we propose this happens without loss? Do we even propose that at all? With the way things have been going, I am seeing some huge sacrifice to get Al back. This is one of those times I hate equivalent exchange.


I am, too, and it's making me extremely worried. sad.gif
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post Jul 12 2008, 06:35 PM
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This looks like it's going to be an awesome chapter! =0 Thanks a bunch to those who shared the RAW and translations and the like. I don't know what I'd do without you all. wink.gif

I'm trying not to spoil myself too much before English scanlations start coming out, but I have to say: ALLLLLLLLLLLLL! :'( :'(


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post Jul 13 2008, 06:20 AM
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zomg, I see the "good raw" on Share! I hope it finishes downloading within 2.5 hours as I'll be going to sleepover for 5 days at my friend's place... w/o my laptop. Currently it's still missing like 2MB but it seems the completely file isn't online yet... @_@; Or well, I hope it's the real Ch 85...

Edit: It's real =D And it's the same HQ version I posted for the last few chapters.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/a4ih62
http://www.mediafire.com/?zubnzwniwn6

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post Jul 13 2008, 07:12 AM
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Thanks a bunch for this, AA battery ^^ Downloading...


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Many thanks, AA Battery!!!

Anyone... my stupid decoding program can't read file names in Japanese and hence can't unpack the downloaded package. T.T
While I'm doing translation, if someone can make DL package with files with English names, that will be much appreciated!! (I can use "page by page" for translation, meantime...)

Translation is in progress on this page (page 1 of this thread) ^^
(My connection was bad and couldn't do it last night..sorry!! ^^)


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post Jul 13 2008, 08:17 AM
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Thanks very much for the scans, AA Battery! I was surprised at some of the images. Others, not so much. Olivier freaking out... something I never thought I'd see. But Ed getting his coat didn't surprise me once I thought about it.


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post Jul 13 2008, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(Tombow @ Jul 13 2008, 08:03 AM) *
Many thanks, AA Battery!!!

Anyone... my stupid decoding program can't read file names in Japanese and hence can't unpack the downloaded package. T.T
While I'm doing translation, if someone can make DL package with files with English names, that will be much appreciated!1 (I can use "page by page" for translation, meantime...)

Translation is in progress on this page (page 1 of this thread) ^^
(My connection was bad and couldn't do it last night..sorry!! ^^)

Link provided by KaNx@mangahelpers.com
http://rapidshare.com/files/129395280/Full...mist_85_Raw.zip
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post Jul 13 2008, 08:29 AM
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Oh, thank you Dhazard06!!!! Many hugs!! ^^

ETA: Yes, that one works, even with my cheap decoding program. biggrin.gif
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Wow, the raw has a high quality ^^ Thanks Tombow for the translation, and don't worry for the delay!


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QUOTE(Tombow @ Jul 13 2008, 08:29 AM) *
Oh, thank you Dhazard06!!!! Many hugs!! ^^

ETA: Yes, that one works, even with my cheap decoding program. biggrin.gif
Thanks again!! ^^

No problem at all. Glad to help a little ^^;
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Note: Finally got volume 19, Armstrong's first name is indeed Olivier. I always thought that was wrong because it's a boy's name, but I always go by the pre-volume romanizations, and that's what I'll use from now on.

Page 0: Maybe later. Much, much later.

Page 1:
Side: First destruction, then rebirth.
SFX: Bang bang bang

Armstrong: You're still not done?
Worker: Oh,
Hello, ma'am.

The interior work will be done today or tomorrow,
and it'll be back to its old, fancy self.

Might I ask what exactly happened that the place was so wrecked?
Armstrong: Just a little argument with my brother.

SFX: Bang bang bang bang

Page 2:
Neighbors: I hear she forced her parents out.
She's never gotten along with the rest of the family.
SFX: Bang bang

Neighbors: But now that whole mansion just an empty box.
She may have taken over the estate, but she's got no one to share it with.

SFX: knock knock

SFX: knock

Page 3:
Mustang: Greetings, Major General Sir.

Armstrong: hmph.
I've got no tea or chairs for the likes of you.

Mustang: Then I suppose I'm out of luck with food, as well.
Armstrong: Yeah, we're too busy repairing the place.
SFX: Bang bong bang bong

Mustang: The Armstrong Family's wealth never ceases to amaze.
"Large" doesn't even begin to describe the mansion.

In fact...
I think you could fit a company...maybe even a full battalion in here.

SFX: Bang bong bang bong

Page 4:
Armstrong: If anything happens to me, you can have it.
SFX: Bang bong bong

Armstrong: Coffins aren't allowed on inside, after all.
SFX: Wham wham wham
Mustang: You aren't leaving it to your brother?

Armstrong: Between the two of you, I'd say you're the better choice...by a hair.
Mustang: I'm honored to have even a hair's breadth of your trust, Major General.

Mustang: Oh,
here's a gift, to celebrate your inheriting the family estate.

I believe I told you last time that we have excellent florists here in Central, right?
Armstrong: Mmhmm, you certainly did.

Page 5:
Armstrong: Hyacinths?

SFX: rustle
Armstrong: Selim Bradley is Homunculus...

Mustang: Do you know what the word "hyacinth" means?

"Feminine Grace and Beauty."

Armstrong: I DON'T NEED YOUR STINKIN' FLOWERS!
SFX: Chuck, FWOOOOSH

Mustang: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

SFX: crackle crackle

Page 6-7:
White text: Are you guys ready for battle?
Title: Chapter 85 - "The Empty Box"

Page 8:
SFX: BOOOOOM BOOOOM BOOOOM

BOOOOOOOOM

BOOOOM
BOOOOOM

SFX: Swip

SFX: Tikatikatikatika

Page 9:
SFX: BANG

Bradley: These exercises are going far too smoothly...
What are you plotting, Grumman?

Grumman: I can't take this any more.
Let's just aim all the cannons at Bradley's tower and be done with it, eh?
Miles: Please stop saying that, sir.

Page 10:
Soldier: Major.

We've been unable to locate Alphonse Elric.
Miles: What?

Soldier: Do you think Bradley's side got him, sir?
Miles: I wouldn't expect him to go down without a fight...
Keep searching for him
Soldier: Sir.

Guy: You Excellency.

Major General Hakuro is here to see you.

Page 11:
Hakuro: Excellency, I've news on Lieutenant General Grumman's activities.
Bradley: Oh?

Is he planning to use the eastern forces to stage a coup d'état?
If so, I've already planned for that.
Hakuro: No, sir!

This whole joint north/east training is a diversion!

Your coming east coincides with a number of planned Ishvalan terrorist attacks on Central!

...but, those are diversions as well.
Colonel Mustang is secretly working with the terrorists, and plans to use the resulting confusion to seize power!

Page 12:
Bradley: Tell me what we've got on him.
Soldier: Yes, sir.

General Hakuro has frequently clashed with General Grumman since he was assigned to the Eastern Headquarters,
and has never approved of Colonel Mustang's speedy rise through the ranks.
There are many people who will testify to that.

Bradley: What of Central?
soldieR: Actually, it's just as he said.

We've got multiple reports of Ishvalan refugees entering areas surrounding Central.

Page 13:
Grumman: Hwaaaah...

Bradley: I'm going back.
Take care of things here.
Soldier: Sir!

SFX: Gakon Gaton Gakon

Page 14:
SFX: GOOOON

Soldier 1: Damned Mustang...thinks he's got it all planned out.
SFX: Goton Gaton
Soldier 2: I thought we took care of him when we transferred all his subordinates...

SFX: Gaton SKREEEEEEEE

SFX: SKREEEE

EEEEEEE

Soldier: Huh?
Soldier: We're stopping.

Conductor: I know you're in a hurry and I apologize for the delay.
We've got a lotta sheep crossing the tracks up ahead.

Page 15:
All SFX: BAAA BAAA

Solider: They're delaying the Fuhrer for SHEEP?!
Soldier: This is some real bumpkin country.

SFX: Clank

SFX: Kachug

Katon Goton

Page 16:
Soldier: WHAT?!

The conductor didn't even NOTICE?!

They just left us-

SFX: Pump

SFX: KABOOOOOOOOM

Page 17:
SFX: Chugachugachuga

SFX: crumble crumble crumble Splaaaaaash

SFX: Rrrruummmmmble...

Guy: The lambs on the bridge have been led to slaughter.

We're continuing to Central as planned.

SFX: Shuffle

Page 18:
Guy: Let's go!
Other guy: Aye aye!

Man, this takes me back.
We ain't been part of a plan like this since Ishval, no?

I hope Colonel Mustang's battle prowess ain't been dulled by all the city livin'.
This ain't gonna be an extermination, like last time.
The Colonel can't just start throwin' flames around the middle of downtown.
SFX: March march march match

Guys: Well, hopefully we won't even be a situation where the military gets involved.
Yeah, good call.
SFX: march march march

Soldier: Mmhmm.
Mmhmm.

I see.
Keep searching for the cars.

Page 19:
SFX: Click

Soldier: You played right into their hands, General Hakuro.

Hakuro: W-what?

SFX: flap flap flap
Grumman: Hmm, hmm.
Hooo.
The Fuhrer's train?
Ohhhhh dear!

Ishvalan terrorists, eh?
My my my...scary stuff!

Page 20:
Hawkeye: The Fuhrer's gone,
and "Selim Bradley" left with his "father."

SFX: Sfft

Hawkeye: We have to make our move now.
SFX: Kachick

Page 21:
Hawkeye: Move out,
2nd Lt. Breda,
Master Sgt. Fuery

Breda: No more ranks - we're plain ol' deserters now.
Fuery: Man...there's no future for us.

Hawkeye: We've got a responsibility to our Colonel!

Yes-Men: Th-The Fuherer's gone?!

Not now, not now...
How can this be happening...
SFX: Rabble rabble rabble

Page 22:
Yes-men: We need a replacement as soon as possible...
No one here could hold a candle to King Bradley!
We don't even know if he's really dead!
But-
What has the investigation turned up?!

Armstrong: Nothing but a bunch of mindless chickens, motivated purely by personal gain.
Now the head's been cut off, and they're left running around aimlessly.

The Fuherer's gone.
Selim's gone.
They're all confused and scared...this room might as well be empty.

This could be my chance...

Page 23:
Yes-Men: Oooh...
Never thought he'd show up at a time like this...

Page 24:
SFX: Pat

Father: Calm yourselves, my friends.
I am still in Central.

Page 25:
Worker: Mr. Hohen!

Visitor for ya!

Page 26:
Hohenheim: So you've come, Edwa-
RDAAAAAAAGHK-
SFX: KAPOW

Ed: Aaah...that felt good.
Hohenheim: Why did you have to hit me with a RIGHT?!

Hmm? Friends of yours?
Greed: Nah, I'm his new boss.
Darius: We're just along for the ride.

Hohenheim: Well, thank you for taking care of my son.
Greed: A loudmouthed, snotty brat like him? He's no trouble at all.
Ed: SHAAAAADAP!

Page 27:
Hohenheim: What an interesting tattoo.
Greed: Hm?

Oh, yeah.
Figure there's no sense in hiding it.

You'd better not hide anything either, pops.

Hohenheim: Agreed.
I'll tell you everything.

Page 28:
SFX: Crackle

Crackle

Crackle crackle

Darius/Heinkel SFX: Psssshhhh

Page 29:
Ed: ...Ow...

Hohenheim: I am the Philosopher's Stone you've sought all these years.

Wanna use me?
Ed: Are you INSANE?!

Those are the lives of innocent people.
It's our own fault we ended up like this - we could never use them!

Hohenheim: ...I'm glad to hear you say that, son.

Page 30:
Hohenheim: Will you help me stop his ambitions?
Ed: Help YOU?

Let's get things straight.
I'm gonna stop him with or WITHOUT you.

But right now, we stand a better chance with you on our side. That's the only reason I came here!

Hohenheim: Well,
regardless of your motives, for now, we fight together.

That's enough talk for one night.
Let's get some food and rest up.
Ed: Huh?
S-sure...

Page 31:
Ed: Oh yeah!

Hey!
I just remembered, Grandma Pinako told me to tell you mom's last words.

She said, "I'm sorry I can't keep our promise.
I have to go first."

Page 32:
Hohenheim SFX: drip drip drip drip drip drip drip
Ed: Wh-
Buh-
Huh?!

Y-y-y-y-y-you're a grown man, don't CRY!
It's just...weird!

Hohenheim: I'm...
Sorry...
you're right.

Page 33:
Ed: O-okay, I told you the message!
Okay?!
I'm going to get dinner!
Bye!
SFX: Dash

Hohenheim: Nnhnh...
...::sniff::

That's right...
"I have to go first."

We couldn't grow old and die together...
but you still believed that I'd follow after you some day.

SFX: Crackle

Page 34:
Hohenheim: Soon, Trisha...
Soon.
SFX: Crackle

Heinkel: Why don't you be a little nicer to you dad, eh?
SFX: Chewchewchewchewchew
Darius: Yeah,
at least CALL him "Dad" instead of "YOU" or something.

Heinkel: I guess there was a lot going on, but he doesn't seem like the type to just abandon his wife.
Mmm?
SFX: Chewchew
Darius: Yeah, must've been a lot.
Huh?
Tell us, we'll listen.
SFX: chew chew

Ed: Enough, ENOUGH!
Yes, A LOT happened, okay?! A LOT!

Greed: A lot of what?
Darius: He's just being stubborn again.
Ed: Nnngh-RRRGH-
AHA!!

Page 35:
Ed: Fabric store!
Lady, give me that red cloth back there!
Lady: You got it.

Greed: What're you buying?
Ed: Hehehe...THIS is more like it.
SFX: Clap

Ed: Ta-
daa!
SFX: BZZRT

Ed: Wheeehehe!
Darius: Ugh.
Heinkel: Not that gaudy red coat again!

Greed: What's with you and red?
Ed: It's a badass tough-guy color! Gets the blood boiling!

Page 36:
Ed: This next battle against them could be my last.
I need to stay motivated.

Hey guys, you don't really have any reason to come with us, right?

I was thinking you'd be better off if we split up here.
Greed: Excuse me, all THREE of you work for ME. I'm the decider here.

Ed: Do you wanna get your old bodies back like those other chimeras?
Heinkel: Not sure, really.

Being a chimera comes in handy.
Darius: Yeah, we don't really care.
Greed: Ghahaha! That's the spirit!

Page 37:
Heinkel: We've got nowhere to go.
Darius: Maybe it's like animal instinct.
I think we'll be better off in the long run if we stick with you guys.

Ed: What about you, Greed? Why're you going with us?
Weren't you running AWAY from the other Homunculus?

Greed: You asking why I'm going back to Central?

That's a secret.
Ha!
SFX: Grin

Page 38:
SFX: Stop, THUD
Ed: Bfp-

What's wrong...?

Page 39:
SFX: Loooom

Ed: AL!

Yesssss, we did it!

Page 40:
Al: I'm glad to see you're safe, brother.
Ed: I thought you were with Major Miles?
Is his group doing all right?
SFX: twitch

Al: Ah yes...brother, I need to show you something.
Can you come with me?
Ed: Sure.

SFX: clank clank clank

Ed: .....Hey Al.
Are you sure you're all right?

Page 41:
Al: ...Why?

Ed: Uhh...
It's just that-
Lin: ED!

...get away from him!

He's...

It's...

Page 42:
SFX: SHOOOM

Darius: UWOOOAH!
Bubble: scratch

Darius: What the hell?!

Page 43:
SFX: Skrskrskrskrskrskrskr

Pride: So you're with THEM now, Greed?
SFX: skrskrskr

SFX: skrskr

Pride: And you're still waltzing around in a human form...
SFX: skrskrskr

SF:X SKREEEEEEE

Page 44:
Pride: Your soul is disgustingly weak!
SFX: skrskrskrskrskrskrskrskr
White text: Alphonse is infected by pure evil!
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Thank you so much for the translations Tombow and HisshouBuraiKen!!! This chapter is absolutely excellent! Did anybody feel sorry for poor Papa Hoho there? D'= And Ed...jeeze ._. can't he use a bit more tact when it comes to his father? Just because he doesn't cry, doesn't mean other men can't. xD

Anyway, ZOMG AL! Whyyyyyyy does Arakawa leave us with a cliffhanger almost every single month! WHYYYYY!!!! *splodes*


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LOL @ HisshouBuraiKen for using a Bushism in the translation ("I'm the decider"). That made me giggle. Thanks for the translation! You, too, Tombow! I hope your internet connection doesn't give you too much trouble. And thank you, all the RAW providers.

Hey - did people notice that on page 37, in the middle panels, it looks like Greed might have been slipping into Ling momentarily? (Look at the hair.) Also maybe p. 28 (we see Ling's eye). And p. 26, when Greedling first talks to Hohopapa?


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QUOTE(Gukumatz @ Jul 13 2008, 08:45 PM) *
Hey - did people notice that on page 37, in the middle panels, it looks like Greed might have been slipping into Ling momentarily? (Look at the hair.) Also maybe p. 28 (we see Ling's eye). And p. 26, when Greedling first talks to Hohopapa?

No, the only time Ling shifted place with Greed was when he noticed that it was not Alphonse who were talking (page 41) - remember that Ling could distinguish Envy even though he tried many disguises (chapter 38). The way Arakawa uses to distinguish both is the use of katakana by the end of Ling's speech.
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