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First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 85 here. smile.gif

For info on the "Reading Reference", go to page 6.


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As usual, the summary is from this Japanese blog site, and translated by me... ^^

Also, the link to the Chinese site with the pics of all raw pages brought to us by Paca and DL link made by Aizen are posted on page 3

Higher Quality Raw, page by page, and DL link (just posted!!) are posted by AA Battery on page 4


For Chapter Translation please scroll down to my next post.


Are you ready to find out...? Then, read on!! ... ^^


Chapter 85: "Empty Box"

Caption: Is everyone ready and prepared to open the battle? Remember... after destruction, comes reconstruction...

Central. The Armstrong mansion.

Olivier is inside, and looks around the interior that had been destroyed by the fight between the her and her brother.
Neighbors watch the estate being repaired and whisper to each other... I hear the parent and their daughter Olivier were not getting along well... I hear no one is living in the house now... She might have gotten the estate by force, but the mansion is like an empty box now...

As Olivier watches the repairs getting done, Mustang drops by.
They look around the mansion.
Mustang: "The place is enormous. We can house a whole army company, or even a whole battalion in this place."
Olivier tells Mustang that if anything happens to her, she will pass on the place to Mustang.

To congratulate her becoming the head of Armstrong family, Mustang present a bouquet of Hyacinth flowers to Olivier. The card on the bouquet reads: Selim Bradley is a Homunculus.
Hyacinth flowers symbolize "Gentle loveliness"
On contrary... Olivier throws the bouquet into a bonfire, along with the card with the secret message.


East. Military exercise ground for the Northern and Eastern armies joint training exercise.

Bradley is observing the exercise. It has been going smoothly. Too smoothly. Bradley wonders what Grumman is up to, what he is planning...
Meantime, Grumman is playing his usual aloof character: "Maybe we will just blast off whole observation stand where Bradley is, in the midst of the confusion of the exercise battle. Gahaha."
Miles, who is accompanying Grumman, receives a message that Al is missing.

Bradley receives the message also.
He is visited by General Hakuro, who tells Bradley that the joint Military exercise is a decoy. While Bradley is away, there will be an uprising in Central by remaining Ishval terrorist members. However, that is a decoy as well, and their true goal is that in the midst of confusion of the upheaval, Mustang and the company, in cooperation with the Ishvalans, is planning to take over the Central Headquarters.

Bradley checks out the validity of information brought in by General Hakuro. The information seems to be valid, and also there seems to be no move from Grumman, hence Bradley decides to leave and head back to Central.


The military train on the way to Central.

The herd of sheep crosses the railroad track. The train is forced to make a stop.
But, this is also part of plan by Grumman and Mustang.
While the train is in stationary, someone separates the engine car from the rest, and the explosions destroy piers of the bridge where the passenger car with Bradley and his subordinates is parked. The passenger car with Bradley and his subordinates falls into the river.

Someone is observing this scene nearby. He is the one who pushed the switch for the explosions. He reports this to another man. Others also join in. They are soldiers who fought under Mustang during the Ishval war. They head for Central.


East. Military exercise ground for the Northern and Eastern armies joint training exercise.
General Hakuro, who stayed behind while Bradley headed for Central, received a message that the Führer is missing. It seems that the information provided by Hakuro to Bradley was planted by Grumman to send Bradley to the trap.

Grumman also officially receives the message that Bradley is missing. Grumman dissembles: "Must be the work of the Ishval terrorist. How scary!"


Central. At the hide-away house.
Lieutenant Hawkeye is making the preparations for the battle.
Along side her, there is also Breda and Fuery who deserted their headquarters to join this battle in Centarl.

The Führer Bradley is missing. Selim has gone to the East with Bradley also.
Time to make the move.....


Central Headquarters. Führer's war room.

After receiving the message that the Führer is missing, the top brasses gather and discuss what to do. Olivier observes this calmly, and as she decides on the timing to make her move...
Behind her, Father appears, accompanied by Sloth.
He put his hand on Olivier's shoulder who is standing terrified. and tells: "Calm down. I'm here in the Central."


Central. Inside Kanama slum.

Ed and the gang meet up with Hohenheim.
First thing first, Ed punches Hohenheim. With his right arm.
Hohenheim sees Greed's tattoo. They decide to share all the information with each other.
Hohenheim reveals about him also.

After hearing everything, Ed is in astonishment.
Hohenheim asks Ed: "I'm the Philosopher's Stone you have been seeking for. Will you use me? "
Ed answers: "That Stone is the product of taking many lives who are all strangers to me. We lost parts of our own bodies because of our own mistakes. We have no rights to use that stone."
Hohemheim: "I'm glad I have a son who can say that."

Though not completely accepting him yet, Ed decides to join and fight alongside Hohenheim.

Ed passes to Hohenheim a message from Pinako about Trish's last words to Hohenheim: "Sorry, I could not keep my promise. I'm going ahead."
Hearing that, Hohenheim weeps: "We couldn't age and die together, but you trust me that I will follow you later. I will see you soon, Trisha!"

Before going into the battle they eat and Ed changes to his Red coat. Ed: "this is going to to be the last battle with them."

Ed tells the Chimeras who had followed Ed that they do not have to go along with Ed any farther. They answer that they do not have any other places to go, and if they couldn't get their previous bodies back that's all right, but their "wild instinct" tells them that they will probably see the better results if they stay."

Greed is hearing this, and smiles to self, mattering: "I'm not telling them..."

Then, suddenly, Al appears in front of Ed.
Greed senses something is wrong. Ed also notices that the sound Al's armor makes is different.
Ed asks Al if anything is wrong. Greed runs out to Ed and tells him: "Get away from him! He is... he is..."

Right after that, Ed is attacked by the shadows that appeared from the ground, and Ed barely escapes the attack.

Al speaks: "You're over here with them, Greed?" And, I hear you were overtaken by human inside? Your soul is such a weakling.."
Everywhere inside Al's armor is Pride's black body!!"

Caption: Al has been tainted by the evil!!!



(End of chapter 85)
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Next month's GanGan will have FMA on the cover, and also the next chapter comes with color top page!
Also, FMA vol 20 (in Japanese) will be on sale on Aug. 22.


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- Tombow   Chapter 85 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others)   Jul 10 2008, 07:32 AM
- - APalchemist5   Is there a preview pic?   Jul 10 2008, 07:37 AM
|- - Tombow   @bluwim - My pleasure. ^^ ETA: I'm editing ou...   Jul 10 2008, 08:08 AM
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- - bluwim   Wow, true, the caption is amazing. I love Mustang...   Jul 10 2008, 08:54 AM
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||- - Saving_Grace   Wow, I nearly cried at the Hoho-Trisha thing, and ...   Jul 16 2008, 06:29 AM
|- - HisshouBuraiKen   QUOTE(Gukumatz @ Jul 13 2008, 11:45 PM) L...   Jul 14 2008, 09:19 AM
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