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Chapter 84 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Jun 13 2008, 05:52 AM
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post Jun 13 2008, 06:13 AM
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@sto - Thank you so much!! That really helps!!
I am sooo grateful for your efforts!! ^^ *hugs!!* happy.gif

@Winry Chan - Thank you!! That helps a lot, too!! ^^

Your guys are awesome!! ^^


@AA battery - Thank you for posting that scan!! I was looking for that!! ^^

There is also another page in the Guide, in the "Character Encyclopedia" section, under General Gurmman, he is also listed as Riza's grandfather. smile.gif


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post Jun 13 2008, 07:37 AM
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I'm also very curious about Riza's whereabouts right now, but it seems unlikely that Bradley would leave her in Central, because it kind of defeats the purpose of his plan to keep Roy seperated from his subordinates if there are no homonculi in Central right now...

I love the picture of Al and Pride you all put together! happy.gif

As for the grumman thing, I agree that it was either kept a secret because Riza was seperated from her mother's side of the family (this is what I also thought happened) or it could be about the immortal army thing...or maybe both. It should be interesting to see if it's ever brought up in the manga...

BTW, I'm in love with your avatar, Winry Chan! biggrin.gif


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post Jun 13 2008, 08:41 AM
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@ Winrychan, Causmicfire - Hehe thankies muchly. ^^
I know at the end of it all, my right hand was hurting like crazy from all of that colouring ( since it was the hand I was holding the mouse in ^^; ) but I'm very happy to know that it turned out alright.

@ RoyxRizaFan - Thankies too happy.gif and I love Winrychan's version of the piccy with Pride and Al too.
Pride certainly does give all of us a good reason to be afraid of the dark! O.O ::


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post Jun 13 2008, 08:55 AM
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Thanks @Becca-chan - &
@Winry Chan for your work on the drawing I suggested! I stink at coloring on the computer and It's nice to see people who are good at it.


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post Jun 13 2008, 11:42 AM
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As you can see this "Grumman's granddaughter" affair has had me intrigued for quite a while...

Same here Sensenic happy.gif

And I have a hard time believing that Grumman would have let Mustang take care of Hawkeye's funeral and then started acting all grand fatherly-like by asking him to marry his Riza (as much as that would make me squee)

So yeah, either a mistake or some nice background story that we have yet to discover (I'm kinda hping for the story smile.gif )


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post Jun 13 2008, 12:18 PM
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Okay I just finished reading this chapter...and I am so shocked at how much taller Edward is now! *sob* Our Ed is growing up so fast! *wipes tear from eye* And as far as I am concerned, he didn't even say a THING about it which really shocks me, I thought he would be saying so much about it over and over again lol
And Pride...has made me 100,000 times more scared of the dark than ever before! I sure hope Al will be fine.

Though what I'm really wanting to see soon is how May doing...


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post Jun 13 2008, 12:22 PM
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Here's my translation, hope you all enjoy:

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Page 1:
White text: Hurry!
Don't let his life's flame die out!

Title: Chapter 84 - In the Hunter's Shadow

Page 2:
SFX: Baaaaaaah Baaaaaah

SFX: Wahahaahaha
Kyaa-

Gerrod finishes iiiiin-
15:32.

Too slow!
You got lazy, Gerrod!
Shaddap!
People: Dwahahaha

Announcer: Will the next contestant come forward?

SFX, right to left: Chugachugachuga, Waaaa, Ahaha, Wah-, Wahaha

Someone: The roast lamb's ready!

Page 3:
Policeman: Boy, I wish I could go to the festival.
Woman: You'll get plenty of lamb to eat later, just keep doing your job.

Look, they're here.

SFX: SHEEEEEEEEEE

SFX: Chugachugachuga
SFX: SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SFX: Katunk katunk katunk

Page 4:
Police: Welcome, sir.
SFX: Katunk katunk katunk
Miles: We appreciate your cooperation.

Hmm...You're having a festival, I take it?
Small bubbles: Who're those guys? Police?
They're in the army!
Cool!
Police: Yes sir, this is Resembool's famous "Spring Sheep Festival."

Miles: Well, I'm sorry we had to ruin the fun for you. We weren't planning to stop here, but the train's having a lot of problems.
Police: Should I call for a mechanic?
The faster we fix it, the faster you're all outta here!

Miles: No, that's okay.
We're headed for the Eastern HQ's training facility, we'll need to give it a thorough inspection.

Oh, right. Can I trouble you for one small favor?
Police: Sir?

Page 5:
Miles: We need to refill our water supply.
Police: Oh, go right ahead. Take as much as you need.
Solider: Bring out the tanks!

SFX: CLUNK CLUNK

SFX: Katang katang

SFX: Katang

SFX: Katang katang

SFX: Katooong

Page 6:
SFX: Knock knock

Guy: The door's locked.
Guy 2: No one's home?

Guy 2: We're here, miss.
SFX: Fwop

Winry: Thank you both!
SFX: PWAAAH

Guy: Your front door's locked, though.
Winry: Today's the Spring Sheep Festival, Grandma and Den must still be there.

Page 7:
Winry: this way,
We can get in through the back door.

Guy: Is there somewhere you can hide?
Winry: Yes, we've got a huge basement room, I should be fine down there.

Guy: Wow, check out all the automail!
Winry: Don't touch those, please.
My Grandma will get mad.

SFX: Creeeee
Winry: Whew, I haven't been here in forever.

Ick, everything's covered in dust...
I'll have to clean up tomorrow.

Page 8:
Ed: WAAAAAAAAGH
Winry: KYAAAAAAAAAH!

Page 9:
Guy: Is someone in there?!
Guy 2: You okay, miss?!
SFX: SLAM
Ed: WAAAAAAAGH!

Heinkel: Is someone in there?!
Darius: You okay, kid?!
Winry: KYAAAAAAH!

Den: BOWOWOWOWOWOW!
SFX: Chomp
Heinkel: OUUUCH!

Greed: What the hell is wrong with you people?
SFX: Yank
Den: YIPE YIPE YIPE!

Darius: Huh? You two are from Briggs-
Guy: You guys are Kimblee's men!

Page 10:
Winry: Lin?!
Greed: Huh?
Oh, you know him?
Den: Waaannnh waaanh

All SFX: ARF ARF ARF
The 4 Bodyguards: Easy, easy! Just put the gun down.
what's going on here?
YOU put YOUR gun down!
It's a LONG story...
No, YOU put YOURS down FIRST!
Stop shouting, you'll blow our cover!
Someone shut that goddamned dog up!
All Ed's SFX: Chew chew chew

Winry: GET THE HELL OUT OF MY ROOM, NOW!
SFX: KAPOW, WHOOSH

Winry: Huuuh Haaah

SFX: Turn
SFX: Gulp!

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Winry: I was so scared...

Ed: Y-yeah...I'm really sorry...
I'm glad you're safe, too-

Winry: Now exactly WHY were you hiding in MY room?
Ed: ...because it's the best place in the house...to watch for people trying to break in...

Pinako: What's all this, now? There's MORE of you filthy bums are dirtying up my house, now?
SFX: Klunk klunk

Pinako: Winry?
Winry: Grandma!

Page 12:
Pinako: ...Thank goodness, you're all right.

Winry: Yes...
I'm sorry if I worried you.

Now who are THEY?!
guy: I'm very sorry for the disturbance, ma'am.
Guy 2: We're soldiers from Briggs, acting as Miss Winry's bodyguards

SFX: Loooooooom
Winry: Uhh...
Ed: We've been hiding out in your basement for a little while.

Winry: Lin...something about you seems different.
Ed: Oops.
I guess I never told you...

Greed: I'm Greed.
Nice to meetcha.

Winry: ...Wha?

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Winry: Oh...I see...
Greed: Yep, so now these three work for me.

Winry: Why did you come back here, though?
Hiding in Central would've been a lot easier.
Greed: Because I said so.

There's no way to tell where THEY have eyes in Central.
Plus, I've gotta make sure his automail's all tuned up.

Pinako: You'd better get to work, Winry.
You made all his latest stuff, I can't do the fine-tuning.
Winry: That's right...

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Ed: So Reole's starting to prosper again.
That's good, I always wondered how they made out.

Ed: And Al?
Winry: He's working with Mr. Miles. They can plan much better with an Alchemist who knows about everything on the team.

Your father went to Central ahead of him.
He's in some slum called "Kanama," you should go see him and have him explain the situation.

...So do you know anything about this "Promised Day" stuff?

Ed: Yeah, Greed told me.
That day will be a chance for us to get our bodies back...and the day where Amestris might be obliterated.

SFX: Clink clink

Page 15:
Ed: Hey...
Winry: Hmm?

Ed: ...Take Grandma and Den
and go hide in another country.

SFX: KAPWANG

Winry: Are you SERIOUS?! What's the point of only telling your friends and family to run?!
Are you saying you can't stop all that from happening anymore?!

Page 16:
Ed: We CAN stop it, and we WILL! But there's that small chance-
Winry: There's no SMALL CHANCE! There's no NOTHING!

You have to stop those guys and protect our country!
And you and Al have to get your original bodies back!
I have to do whatever I can to help!

Ed: Geez, talk about simplifying things...

Page 17:
Winry: NOW what? You never give in that easily-
Ed: Oh my God, quit nagging me, woman!

Winry: Ed!
SFX: Cree

SFX: SLAM

Greed: Kheheheh...

That's a nice girl you got there.
Another form of greed.

Ed: When you get too greedy, it comes back and bites you in the [All hail lord Xenu].
SFX: wave wave
Ed: See this? I wanted to bring someone back from the dead, and this is what I ended up with.
Greed: Oh yeah?

Page 18:
Greed: "I want to see my dead friend," "I want money," " I want women, "I want to protect the world." All "wants."
All "desires."

The raw emotion is the same mo matter what the object of desire is.
There are no "types" when it comes to greed.

You humans always get all holier-than-thou when it comes to this stuff...I really don't get you.
SFX: Hahaha
Ed: It's called having integrity, you should try it sometime.

Thanks Winry, Grandma.
Pinako: You gonna be okay? The trains don't run at this hour.

Greed: We're all outsiders...It's easier for us to just slip back into the shadows.
Ed: And the "promised day" is almost here, we can't waste any time.

Page 19:
Winry: Make sure you listen to what your dad has to say, Ed.
Ed: Yeah, yeah. And you make sure to stay hidden.

I'll be back after all this "promised crap" is over.
So bake me an apple pie and keep it warm.

Winry: I will!!

Workers: Let's call it a day, boys!
Workers: See ya!

Page 20:
Toad: Man, what a long day.
Zanpano: Let's hit that old guy's place and get some dinner.

Toad: This sure is whipping my [All hail lord Xenu] into shape, I tell ya what.
Zanpano: Yeah, you've dropped a ton of weight!
Yoki SFX: Wobble wobble

Toad: Should we really be doing this when the whole country's in danger?
Ah-!

Zanpano: Hey, Doc!
Marcoh: Oh, you're here. Sorry we took so long.

Toad: Took so long?! We've been walking all over the place looking for you!
We've gotta get moving before the sun sets!

Zanpano: I'll get our stuff from the apartment!

Page 21:
Toad: We're going to Central
to meet up with Ed and Al's father.
I'll explain on the way.

It's kinda weird, ain't it?
An Ishvalan and army soldiers working towards the same goal.
Zanpano: Yeah, I guess it is.

Toad: We were born and raised to "protect this great nation" and all that,
Zanpano: Then again, we're really just tagging along with a bunch of genius alchemists hoping to turn our bodies back to normal...we're here for ourselves, too.

Toad: True...but Scar rebelled against Amestris, and now he's working to save it, too.
Zanpano SFX: Right, right.

Page 22:
Scar: Let's get this straight.
I'm not here to SAVE Amestris.
I'm here to CHANGE it.

This country rejected the People of Ishvala, and I'm going to make it recognize them as humans again.

Teacher: You must become the change you wish to see in the world...

right?

Toad: Ishvalans?
Zanpano: Wha?
Marcoh: They weren't simply wandering aimlessly for all these months.

Page 23:
Marcoh: They're comrades, united in their intentions.

Grumman: Northern Soldiers are as stiff-looking as ever, I see.
Horseman: My apologies.

They were trained under the previous commander, Major General Armstrong.
SFX: clop clop clop

Your Eastern soldiers all look to be in top shape, as well.
Grumman: Bwahahaha!
My experience in Ishval hasn't gone to waste, I assure you!

Page 24:
Miles: I look forward to working with you again, Lieutenant General Grumman.
Grumman: Oh ho, if it isn't Major Miles...

Boy, I can't tell you how glad I was to hear we'd be doing our joint at my place!
The north's MUCH too cold for an old fart like me!
SFX: Hahahahaha
Everyone: He's never even gone up North once.

Grumman: Let's do our best, eh?
Miles: Just try to go easy on us.

Grumman: Everything's ready on our end.
SFX: whisper whisper
Miles: Ours, too.

Grumman: Unfortunately, a TEENSY little problem's popped up...
Miles: ..What do you mean?

Page 25:
Grumman: Little ol' Bradley came to watch the show.

Miles: We'd accounted for the possibility of Central observing the joint training since the "Promised day" is so close, but...
Grumman: The boss man's here and it really threw a wrench into things, eh?
Ahhh, I'm getting fed up with all this.

Page 26:
Grumman: Haah...
we'll just have to figure something out.

SFX: Twitch
Al: Nnh-

Page 27:
Al: .......
it happened again...
SFX: CLANK

Al: I feels like I'm getting pulled away more and more often...

I've got to hurry...
If I don't get my body back soon...
SFX: Sliiide

SFX: Plink

SFX: drip drip drip
Gluttony(!): I smell him...I smell him!

I smell the Fullmetal Alchemist's brother!

Page 28:
SFX: Griiiiiiiiin [H: Nothing beats the Gluttony "EAT TIME" grin]

Al: Oh-

Page 29:
Al: ...., ...., ....!
SFX: DASH

SFX: Clank clank clank
Al: I can't afford to fight him with my body giving out on me!

What now?
...Should I try to destroy his Philosopher's Stone like Dr. Marcoh?

I messed up...
I never thought there'd be another Homunculus besides the one who sent out the Fuhrer!

I've gotta warn everyone-

Page 30:
SFX: ZuuuZOOO

Page 31:
SFX: FWIIIING

Al: Rrgh-
Nnh-
SFX: CLANK
Zoruzoruzoruzoruzoru

Al: What...IS this...
SFX: Squeeeeze

SFX: Gasp

Al: ...hh-
SFX: Wobble, thud

Page 32:
Al: Not now...not now...
SFX: Slump

SFX: WHAM

SFX: Skreee, Zuru

SFX: Zuruzuruzuru

SFX: CLOOOOONG

Page 33:
SFX: ZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZU

Page 34:
All SFX: Zuo zuo

Text: Alphonse is captured! Is this it?!
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post Jun 13 2008, 01:25 PM
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Anyone know when the translated version will be out? The suspense is driving me nuts.......wacko.gif
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post Jun 13 2008, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(Becca-chan @ Jun 13 2008, 05:41 PM) *
Pride certainly does give all of us a good reason to be afraid of the dark! O.O ::


Actually it's rather the opposite if you think about it... When it's all dark no shadows are casted and Pride is powerless (or at least not able to notice your presence).
If anything Pride would give us a reason to be afraid of the light! See those poor soldiers
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QUOTE(Luthine @ Jun 13 2008, 08:42 PM) *
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As you can see this "Grumman's granddaughter" affair has had me intrigued for quite a while...

Same here Sensenic happy.gif

And I have a hard time believing that Grumman would have let Mustang take care of Hawkeye's funeral and then started acting all grand fatherly-like by asking him to marry his Riza (as much as that would make me squee)

So yeah, either a mistake or some nice background story that we have yet to discover (I'm kinda hping for the story smile.gif )


Guess it's not that much of a big issue to be told a story about... Maybe if we have a Mustang.Hawkeye wedding in the end, or if sth bad happens to Riza it might come up...


Thanks for the translation, Hisshou!


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post Jun 13 2008, 08:08 PM
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Thanks for the translation, HisshouBuraiKen! My friend over at Mangahelpers (she uses the same name) said you were going to translate soon. ^^


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Do you suppose Ed finally got taller because Al's soul is losing it's connection to a body?
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Ed taller than winry dry.gif

I don't like that thing wacko.gif
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post Jun 14 2008, 05:31 AM
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wow! thanks to all... Tombow, Winry-chan, sto, HisshouBuraiKen,... I was lost, and i've found very news!!! Thanksssssssssss!!!

The chapter looks very strange for me... All things pass very fast, the meeting Ed-Win is very very cool... (poor Winry, Ed is very rude with her... I only love the "wait for me" theme). I suppose the earrings will have importance in the last chapters.... And all of us know that Pride can't do anything to Al... he's a sacrifice!!!


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post Jun 14 2008, 11:00 AM
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There are some scanlations out at:

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32969

Winry Chan - So wait, the Winry Chan at MH isn't you?
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