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Hohenheim's Connection With The Souls In Him, & other Hohenheim related theories!
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post May 2 2006, 07:31 PM
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~Hohenheim's Leaving Theories For Manga, Spoilers if you haven't read the manga or viewed whole series ~

What do you think will be his explanation for leaving his wife and kids in the manga? Since we learned from Father that he can't die wouldn't you surmise that he wouldn't be deteriorating like in the anime?

Was it for some noble cause? Insanity? Finding a way to make Trisha immortal as well? Digging holes?

What are your theories?


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post May 2 2006, 07:38 PM
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I'm guessing since he's like, imortal and what not, he sort of left the family to avoid tragedy. Cause, he's not aging, Trisha is, that's kind of hard to explain, no? ANd i wouldn't be surprised if he as slightly insane as well. He seemed off of his rocker when we see him. He doesn'y seem to have the will to live anymore, although he may have no choice.


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post May 2 2006, 08:14 PM
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I think it might have something to do with the promise him and Trisa made it wasn't explained yet.


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post May 3 2006, 01:17 AM
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He knows Father's evil plan is in it's end stages and left to try and stop it.
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post May 3 2006, 07:08 PM
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That's what I was thinking. Maybe Father turned him into the "monster" he thinks he is.


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post May 3 2006, 07:16 PM
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Going to have to agree with simargl with this one.

EDIT: Adding to my comment to avoid blocking Nepharski's...

I have a feeling that Father is going to use Ed and Al for some bad reason. He'll lure them in to convince them that he's no different from Hohenheim, but do something... bad. Sorry, can't say I really have an imagination.

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post May 3 2006, 07:20 PM
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Came as quite a surprise to the Father when he discovered Edward and Alphonse were the offspring of Hohenheim, now didn't it? My guess is that Ed's old man has an enigmatic higher cause he is orchastrating, probably against Father's insideous plans, but that he had to leave his family behind to protect them from becoming a target of Father should he try to strike out at Hohenheim.


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i'd agree that it had something to do with the promise he made with Trisha. also, i think he probably wanted to protect Trisha and his kids from Father, which is presumably why they were never registered under his name. and finally, he might not have realized how long he had been gone if he is, like many people theorize, immortal. to him, it those years may have gone in a flash. when he does return, he's all surprised, like boom! Trisha's dead, and his kids are grown up. of course, his being extremely air headed probably has something to do with that.
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post May 4 2006, 05:41 PM
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Trisha's dying wish ("Tell him that I couldn't keep my promise, I'm going first") make me think Hohenheim might be looking for a way to pass through the Doors of Truth without dying or taking any lives. But that still begs the question of why he would want to do that in the first place.


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post May 4 2006, 05:49 PM
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Hoheneim is very surreal. That's why I like him.

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post May 4 2006, 07:22 PM
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Im not really sure what is going on with him.
but does anyone else wonder why he looks so much like father?


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post May 4 2006, 07:30 PM
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That's been discussed a lot... my theory is that Hohenheim and father were the alchemist who destroyed Xerxes. As a result of Father and Hohenheim gaining the powers of the stone, they also split or something. Father became the Sage from the East and Hohenheim went the other direction and became the Sage from the West. There'll probably be a short, one or two chapter flashback to explain what actually happened in Xerxes, but there hasn't been anything definitive yet.


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That's a good theory. I believe it will be a while before we find out.


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post May 5 2006, 07:24 AM
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I agree with most of you.



I also think he left because he wasn't aging, and didn't want to out live his family.


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post Jan 17 2007, 01:18 AM
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~ Manga Ed And Al Not 100% Human?, Are Ed and Al Half Human and Half Unknown? ~

There's a lot difference I'm seeing between Manga Ed and Anime Ed. Most of us can probably agree that Manga Ed is stronger than his anime counterpart. Hoheinheim in the anime is just a person who's been swapping his soul from bodies to bodies prolonging his life. Manga Hoheinheim on the other hand is NOT human at all. He toke a few bullets in the chest and direct headshot from shotgun without really any scratch or bleeding on his body or face. And then we later found out he might have the same paranormal body composition as Father. Now I'm starting wonder if Ed and Al had inherited any of Hoenheim's super human or other unnatural traits.

I guess one trait Ed and Al might have inherited maybe that their injuries and wounds heal faster than ordinary humans. When Ed fought against the Slicer Brothers, suffered several sword wounds on his body and he was hospitalized for about one day dispite the many times he his wounds openned caused by people angrying him and Armstrong. The next day when they arrived in Rush Valley, when Winry forced Ed to take off his clothes to show off their automail, Ed's sword wounds was pretty much fully healed and there was only a badage patch on his back. When Manga Ed fought against Greed, Ed got clawed in the stomach and suffered bleeding. Greed also commented that ordinary person would have been already taken out by that attack. As the fight went on, Ed was severely battered and beaten against the wall where you can see his blood smeared on the wall down to his neck. Ed showed no signs of weakness or fatigue as he got right back up on his feet and continued to fight. Anime Ed on the other hand was taken out by a single punch from Greed when they first met. Going back to Manga Ed, the next day after the fight with Greed, Ed should have been fighting Lan Fan in Rush Valley still with wounds sustained from his fight with Greed. The weird thing is Ed's claw wounds in his stomach didnt open up during the fight and he showed no signs injuries or weakness besides his damaged automail arm. My guess is Ed's injuries had already fully healed by the time they reached Rush Valley.

As for Al, remember Barry was supposed to be put to death to death 2 years ago in 1912? Well instead of putting him to death, they toke his soul from his body and placed it in an armor. Barry's soul had been seperated from his body for about two years. When Mustang's group encountered Barry's original body, they mentioned Barry's body smelled like it was decaying and rotting. Al had his body seperated from him since 1910 when they tried to revive their mom. When Ed reencountered Al's body at the gate, it wasnt rotting or decaying. Al's body looked really thin like he's been malnurished and his hair had grown really long. Now why would Al's body look like its in a better shape than Barry's if it has been seperated longer from his soul? One possible explaination would be the some kind of special trait Al inherited from Hoenheim.

Here are just some of the possible theories I came with about the Elric Brothers NOT being 100% human since they may have inherited some special traits from Hoenheim's side. Its kind of like how other anime series where a human and a demon (youkai) interbreed resulting a hanyou (half-demon) with the child inheriting some traits from both parents.
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