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Lately there has been alot of talk of the world ending in 2012. Some people have also talked about this as the New Age. The Mayans even have 12-21-12 as the last day of their calander and as the day when the world ends at the hands of metorites and such.
Nostradamus, there was a special on him on the History Channel a few weeks ago, spekas of the Anti-Christ and how God will bring about the New Age using fire instead of water. He also speaks of the time when the center of the universe is crossed by eight celestial lines, and this phenomenon only happens every 13000 years, thriteen being the unluckly numerical value. Nostradamus also expects the world to be encased in a chaotic end at the hands of the Anti-Christ in 2012.
What do you think?
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I have seen some fascinating cases presented for the Mayan calendar, for which I was fairly skeptical for the same reason as Popo, that we can't know how accurately the Mayan calendar matches up to our own.
I remember there being a fairly convincing argument with evidence for that particular date, but I don't particularly buy doomsday prophesies of any sort. Many people abuse such notions, treating them as a means for squeezing out personal gain from a desperate populace, even for smaller predicted crashes, less drastic than the whole world ending. Remember Y2k? We almost forgot about that fiasco, didn't we? In the end, some grocery store computers messed up, and a bunch of people had more Spam in their cellars than they knew what to do with. I also feel that too many people use the prospect of the world ending as an excuse to be reckless, or taking the so-called rapture as an exit strategy. Lots of people claim that they don't need to be concerned about polluting the environment, because Christ is going to come soon and the world will be reborn. Or, that can be the reason the consider the Iraq war to be a justified war, because they see evidence for it in the bible, as being a necessary step to the armageddon.
My brother in law who is Mormon, believes that the Mayan prediction is probably true, most likely influenced by his religion's belief that the Mayans and Aztecs were the civilizations described in the Book of Mormon. (Another can of worms. Look it up if you want a better understanding of their mythos) He says that the world is going to become entirely evil, and then the second coming will happen. I think a lot of people feel this way for a multitude of reasons. I think it's easy for some to see the immorality and darkness of the world and say that it's a part of a predicted cycle that will be eradicated once the rapture comes, rather than to wallow in despair and believe that it's impossible to put an end to AIDS, war, genocide, rape. I think it makes it easier for them to condemn what they see as immoral when they believe that they just need to hold out and be 'righteous' for a few more years.
As for the 'world ending' in 2012, I'd like to point out that the prediction for the end of the world in the Mayan sense doesn't necessarily mean the end of the world so much as the end of an era. And all mystical prophecies and pseudoscience involving astronomy aside, I do believe that the world is changing so rapidly that we are going to see some major overthrows of society and the world's general order quite soon.
All in all, the end of the world has been 'coming soon' for thousands of years. We seem to forget about all the failed apocalypses that have happened within a few months of nothing happening. It's a wise idea to give serious thought to the fact that drastic change can and will happen, probably sooner than later, but that sort of caution should come with reasonable planning and assumption of a very real future ensuing.