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Chapter 75 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Sep 12 2007, 07:37 AM
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Raw chapter 75!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(in the same page there is a link to the translations wink.gif )


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Huzzah, the raw, I know we know the basic story but yippe all the same...



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I found the raw i just need a traslation!!!
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Holy ....! *_* I am still in a little state of shock. Tombow's chapter summary alone was enough to give me goosebumps. Paca, thank you so much for the link to the raw. I should be doing schoolwork, but that can take a little break.


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post Sep 12 2007, 10:36 AM
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Chapter 75 is called the last day of Xerxes? Oh seems like we know what actually happened, and not to mention that Hohenheim is part of the incident? >_>

EDIT: My godness... Even though I don't understand much of the raw chapter, I kept getting surprise as I look at the pages. So much surprises >_< Even screamed out loud when I came to page 25... Uwaaaah it feels so weird when Hiromu attacks you with surprises all of the sudden. -Depressing-


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~ Chapter 75 Spoiler Party!, With the Chapter Summary, & Translations ~

Link to Raw is posted here.


Chapter 75 summary: "The Last Days of Xerxes"

Hoho teaches Math and Literature to other slaves. One day his master finds out about it.
The master scolds Hoho, but Hoho asks his master to make him his assistant.

Some time has past, Hoho is now a young man. He is having better life as the assistant to his master, and learning more about Alchemy. Homunculus tells Hoho his wish to get out of the flask. If it gets out of the flask it will die.

Hoho's master with Homunculus are summoned to the castle to audience the Xerxes king. Hoho stays behind.
What the king asked to the Homunclus was about getting the immortal life. Homunculus grins.
It looks down on the king's wish for the immortality, but teaches him how to achieve it.

Huge construction project has begun. Water canals throughout the country. People of Xerxes praise the king. People are excited and very happy about the new water ways. Though, the laborers of the construction sites stay cool.

One night, people in one Xerxes village awaken to huge noises. They go outside to find the village is on fire, and the village populations are being murdered. Ones who were playing construction workers, they are the ones murdering the village people. They are holding a drawing of transmutation circle for the Philosopher's Stone, with the marks on each of Five points.

Hoho hears the news that everyone in the Northern village of Botus (spelling??) has been murdered. The Homunculus grins.
The king is inside the old Xerxes ruin, standing in front of the wall drawing of transmutation circle for the Philosopher's Stone. King: "Hurry, soon, soon.."

Time passed. The king is further aged and now ill. The canals (transmutation circle) are finally completed.
The ceremony to make the king "immortal" has begun inside the old Xerxes ruin, in front of the wall drawing of transmutation circle for the Philosopher's Stone.
Attending the ceremony is Hoho, aged now and he looks as old as the current day Hoho. He is holding Homunculus in the flask.

Hoho knows nothing. He is innocently amazed: "Amazing!! Our king will become immortal!!"
The king cuts his finger, and his blood drips down.

Then it begun. Numerous black hands come up from the ground.
Hoho: "What!!??" His master is down, people are down, horses are down, they are all being killed. The king who was assured by Homunculus that no harm would reach him, gets killed also.

Hoho: "What!!?? What is happening!!??" "Homunclus, what have you done??!!"
Homunculus: "The true center of the transmutation circle is where you and I are standing, right here." "I used your blood that was in me to open the Gate. Hohenheim, my blood family, we are at the center of everything."

Underneath Hoho's foot, a gigantic eye of the "Truth" appears. Throughout the country, the black hands appear, take people's souls, then gather towards Hoho and the Homunculus.

The morning after. Hoho wakes up. By his foot, broken flask. Hoho walks around and calls out friends' name. Nobody answers.

"No use. Everyone's souls are taken. How is your body?"
Behind him, a person appears. His face is the same as Hoho's!!
Hoho: "Homunculus? What has happened??!! What do you mean by 'how is my body?'!!??"

Homunculus speaks to Hoho: "I used the information from your blood to make this vessel. Finally, I can walk with my own legs. As my appreciation for giving me your blood, I gave you a name, knowledge, and now the immortal body in return for all the souls of people in this nation... Well, I took half of them, though."

Inside Hohenheim, he hears numerous souls screaming for help. Hoho screams.

........Back to the current day.
Someone is calling Hoho's name. He was sleeping on the moving train, and the people who woke him up were Izumi and Sig. They seem to have met before. Now they learn that Hoho is father of Ed and Al, and Izumi is their Alchemy master.

While walking in the town together, Izumi coughs up blood. Hoho touches Izumi, and realizes something. Hoho sends off Sig to get a ride.

Alone with Izumi, Hoho asks Izumi: "You saw the Truth? What have you sacrificed in return?"
Izumi is reluctant to answer. Hoho tells her that he has some Xing's Medical knowledge. Izumi tells Hoho that she has lost part of her inner organs when tried to resurrect her child.

Hoho asks Izumi if she was visited by the military recently. Izumi tells that in the past, but she refused. Hoho seems relieved with that answer. "Excuse me." Hoho puts his hand inside Izumi's stomach. Izumi coughs up blood. Sig sees that and punches Hoho.

Izumi tells Sig: "I'm fine. I feel better." Sig: "He stabbed his hand inside you. Show me the wound." Izumi: "There is no wound."
Hoho: "The organs that had been lost can not be recovered, but I reorganized the inside so that she has better circulation of the blood now." "Mrs. izumi, you can not die yet."

Izumi is astounded, and asks Hoho his identity. Hoho: "A monster... no, I will tell you the truth... I am.. a Philosopher's Stone with a shape of human being, called Van Hohenheim."

Caption reads: The Philosophers Stone, what Ed and Al have chased, searched, and longed for. That is the identity of Hohenheim, the father of Ed and Al!!??

(End of chapter 75)


And, for Page by page translations, see my following post below. ^^


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post Sep 12 2007, 11:45 AM
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Thank you Paca for the link to the Raw!!! biggrin.gif

Opened Chapter 75 Spoiler Party thread. ^^
Chapter Summary (completed) on the first page, and the Chpater translations in progress. smile.gif


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post Sep 12 2007, 12:23 PM
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I cant read japanese, but I knew there was something about Hohenheim being a philosopher's stone when I read the chapter. >_< Aaaaah things are getting scary~

If Hohenheim is philosopher's stone, then... It doesn't look like he would help his son to get back their body. What is he trying to do? To stop 'Father'? But we don't even know what 'Father' is trying to do either.

So complicated (not really) x_x


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@Chiisana - Yap. Hohenheim is a philosopher's stone!! What a revelation!! wacko.gif

Page by page translations:

Chapter 75: "The Last Days of Xerxes"

(For the first two-page pic that is presented first in the raw, please see Page 18-19 below.)

Page 1:
Caption on the Left: Hohenheim has received a name from Homunculus in a flask. He has acquired the knowledge, learned to read and write...and.....
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Young Hohenheim is teaching other slaves reading and writing.
Hohenheim: "This is how you write 'Sun'."
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Slave: "This way?"
Hohenheim: "Yes, yes." "This is 'Moon'."
Slave: "Hey, how do you write 'Fish'?"
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Hohenheim: "This is how." "If you write this way, it means 'I catch three fish'."
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Slave: "It's sure good to be able to read and write!!"
Older slave: "Yeah, less chance of getting cheated by our bosses at work."
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Slave: "Where did you learn to read and write without our noticing it?"
Hohenheim: "That's a secret!"


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Hohenheim: "Let's do Math with calculations for two digit numbers tomorrow."
Slave: "Oh yeah, please!"
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Their slave master catches them taking breaks from their work.
Slave master: "Hey---!!" "So this is where you've been all shirking!!"
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Master: "You worthless scraps! Do you want me to take away your meals again?!"
Hohenheim: "Whoa...oh!! I'm sorry Master!!"
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Slave master notices the writings on the ground.
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Master: "...Can you write?"
Hohenheim: "Um.. yes. I can read & write, and do basic Math also."
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Master: "This is surprising." "I see.. I see...I found it odd that the slaves have recently started to gain some knowledge. You were the one teaching them."


Page 3:
Hohenheim, seeing his master being impressed, sees the opportunity and seizes it.
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Hohenheim: "Not only reading and writing, I've learned a little bit of Alchemy also." "Would you make me your assistant?"
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Chapter 75: "The Last Days of Xerxes"
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Some time has passed. Hohenheim is a young man now. He works as his master's assistant.
He is reading an Alchemy book in the lab. Homunculus stays in the flask nearby.

Hohenheim: "'All things are created from one; All things will return to one.'"
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Hohenheim: "'In other words, one is all.'" "'Because of one all will exist; All will be contained within one'"


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Hohenheim keeps reading the book: "If one does not contain all, all becomes nothing."
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Homunculus: "You sounds like a full-fledged Alchemist."
Hohenheim: "No, I haven't surpassed being a mere assistant yet."
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Hohenheim: "I'm still far away from reaching my master's skill level."
Homunculus: "...."
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Hohenheim takes Homunculus in a flask to the window, and talks with him while watching sunset.
Hohenheim: "I'm grateful to you."
Homunculus"For what?"
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Hohenheim: "Because you have given me this knowledge I can have this better life now. Now I can just reminisce about my days as a slave"
Homunculus: "No, it is I who must thank you."
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Homunculus: "I was able to be born into this world because you've given me your blood. In other words, you are like my parent."
Hohenheim: <in small letters> Hahaha
Hohenheim: "I don't even have a family yet, and I've already got a kid, eh?"


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Homunculus: "Family... eh?" "Humans are inconvenient beings. You must hold a community to propagate in order to preserve your species."
Hohenheim: "Don't call it 'propagate'."
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Hohenheim: "It may look foolish to you," "But we humans feel happiness in having families and companions, and such."
Homunculus: "Hmmm. Is that so"
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Hohenheim: "Then, in what do you find happiness?"
Homunculus: "Let's see.."
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Homunculus: " I won't ask anything extravagant. If I could have a body that would let me stay outside of this flask that would make be happy."
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Homunculus: "Because I would die if I come out of this flask now."


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Their conversation is interrupted by Hohenheim's master.
Slave master: "Hey! You took it out of the lab again, Hohenheim:?"
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Hohenheim: "I'm sorry."
Slave master: "I have business with Homunculus. Give it to me."
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Slave master: "The king wants to talk to you."
Homunculus: "Oh?"
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Hohenheim is left alone, and wonders: The king? What could it be?
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Homunculus meets with the King in the darkness of the night
Homunculus: "Immortality?"
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Homunculus: "Huh... How come ones who have reached the peak of power and fortune would all go for that next..."
Master: "Mind your language, Homunculus."


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Master: "You are in the Imperial presence of the King of Xerxes!"
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Master: "If you stay impudent I will smash your flask!"
Homunculus: "Hah. You come out so high handed."
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Homunculus: "You guys have happened to be able to create me by chance."
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Homunculus: "If you do anything to me, won't it be your heads that get smashed?"
Master: <in small letters> Gha....
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King interrupts: "Enough with the idol talk."
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King: "Immortality." "Can it be achieved or not?"
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The king is old. His hand is shaking.
Holmunculus: "I see you are becoming impatient as you grow old and frail." "Sad, isn't it, King of Xerxes?"
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Homunculus: "Fine." "I will teach you how to obtain immortality."
Homunculus grins.
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A worker is digging the ground.
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Big construction has begun.


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Farmer: "What's this construction? It's huge."
Laborer: "It's an irrigation canal."
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Laborer: "By the order of the King, there will be water ways throughout the country."
Farmer: "Is that really so? Maybe our fields could receive the benefits from them also?"
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Farmer: "He is indeed a great King of Xerxes." "He thinks about the common people like us also."
Farmer's wife: "Please work hard!"
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Farmer couple talk to each other as they leave: "Hope it will be completed soon." "Maybe I will bring some treats to the workers later."
Laborers watch them ambivalently as they leave.
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Later that night, (or some days later, at night.)
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Farmer couple is asleep.


Page 10:
Farmer awakens with the noise outside.
"Ahhhh!!" "Guahhhhhh!!"
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Farmer gets up to check.
Farmer: "What's the ruckus?"
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Farmers goes outside.
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The village is on fire. Men on the horses are murdering the village's people.
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Farmer recognizes one of the men on the horses.
Farmer: "!!" "You are the worker for the irrigation canal....!!"


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Man on the horse comes into the farmer's house.
Farmer: "Heeeh!!"
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Man on the horse wields the blade at the farmer couple.
Wife: "Ah..."
Farmer: "Ahhhh...."
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The house is set on fire.
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The whole village is on fire.
Bandit leader: "Do not miss anyone."
Bandit: "Yes."
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Bandit leader is holding a piece of paper.
Behind him, the sound of raging fire.
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The paper he is holding has the drawing of a circle with five points with a mark on one of them.
Bandit: "Next is..."


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Hohenheim overhears the news about the demise of the village.
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Slave: "I heard Bodus village up North has been decimated in one night."
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Slave: "Why?"
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Slave: "They say maybe the village was attacked by bandits." "I hear everyone, without exception, had been killed, and it was so atrocious.
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Hohenheim tells the news to Homunculus.
Hoenheim: "Awful news." "Bodus village was attacked by bandits, and the whole village population was massacred."
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Homunclulus: "Hmm..." "How dreadful."
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The King wishes for the speedy completion of the project.
King: "Hurry..."
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King: "Quickly..."


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The king is inside the old Xerxes ruin, standing in front of the wall drawing of the transmutation circle for the Philosopher's Stone.
King: "Quickly...!!"
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Some years have past.
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Master: "Your majesty, the water ways have been completed." "Now the Transmutation Circle your majesty has long wished for has been..."
King: "Ah.. It has been a long time... Finally."
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King has been further aged. Holding the audience while in the bed
He talks to Homunculus in a flask held by the slave master.
King: "This is how it should be done, right? Homunculus?"
Homunculus: "Everything was done right. The king will be able to become immortal."
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King: "I feel regret for the villagers who were being used for the transmutation circle, but," "with this..." "With this..."
King wheezes.
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Master: "Under the majesty's wise and sagacious rule, Xerxes's citizens should enjoy the eternal peace and stability of the nation.


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Master: "Now. Let's begin the ritual."
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King is in the middle of inside the old Xerxes ruin with the wall drawing of the transmutation circle for the Philosopher's Stone.
On the side is now aged Hohenheim, holding the Homunculus in a flask.
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King slits his finger with a knife.
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Blood from the king drips down.
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On the wall is a transmutation circle.


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Alchemy master and his assistants watch King.
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Hohenheim is being amazed.
Hohenheim: "This is great."
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Hohenheim: "Our King will become immortal."
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Hohenheim: "This is moment of the Century...!!!
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Strange occurrence on the ground.
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Underneath their feet, numerous black ribbons with hands rise up from the ground.


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King: "Oh!... This is the... "
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King: "Immortal.....?!"
Master screams: Gha...!!
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King to Master: "What is it?!" "What happened?!"
Master: "Gaha!!"
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Then, the King himself..
King: "?!" "Guh!!... Muh!!"
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King: "How so?" "You told us there would be no harm to us..."
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Even horses are being affected.
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Everywhere people are going down.
People: "Gua!!" Aaaagh!?" "Guh!!"


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Hohehnheim: "What?" "What is happening?!"
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Hohenheim: "Hey, Homun..."
Homunculus is grinning inside the flask.
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Hohenheim: to Homunculus: "....What have you done?!"
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Homunculus with a big grin and one eye showing, points with his finger.
Homunculus Homunculus speaks to Hohenheim who is holding his flask in his hands: "The true center of the transmutation circle is where you are standing, right HERE." "I used your blood inside me and opened the Gate."
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Homunculus: "Hohenheim, my family, who has shared his blood with me," "now, you and I are being at the center of everything!"
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Page 18 - 19:
Horrible scene of Xerxes's last day. As Hohenheim stands with the Homunculus in the flask, the giant Eye of Truth comes out of ground, as well as numerous black hands!!


Page 20:
All the black hands with stolen souls converge on Hohenheim and Homunculus.
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Hohenheim lets go of the flask.
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The flask shatters, Homunculus with the grinning eye and mouth is finally being outside of the flask.
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They also converge on Hohenheim.



Page 21:
So the process is completed.
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And, everything quiets down.
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Morning after.
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Hohenheim is on the temple ground.


Page 22:
Hohenheim awakens.
Hohenheim: "Um..."
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The morning sunlights shines in the quiet temple.
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Hohenheim: "What..."
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By his foot, broken pieces of the flask.
Hohenheim: "Why is it so quiet." "Someone..."
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Hohenheim: "Some..."
Corpses on the steps.
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No sign of life on the body.


Page 23:
Hoenheim: "Dead... Everyone..."
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Hohenheim: "Someone....."
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Hohenheim: "Willard" "Mehitilt(spelling?)" "Rheinmile (spelling?)"
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Hohenheim: "Tony" "Mayo"
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Hohenheim: "What is this..."
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Hohenheim: "Someone..." "Please answer me."


Page 24:
Someone is alive and talks to Hohenheim from behind.
Voice: "That would be impossible." "All of them are having their souls taken out of them."
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Hohenheim turns around, and finds someone wearing the King's clothings.
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Hohenheim: "! Your Majesty!!" "You are safe!"
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Voice: "Do they look good on me?"
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Voice: "I chose these from clothes I could find around me and put them on."
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Voice: "How is that body of yours?" "Is it working fine?"
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Page 25:
The person has.. the same face as Hohenheim!!
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Hohenheim: "I am..." "...there..."


Page 26:
Homunculus: "I made this vessel using the information from your blood." "Finally, I can walk on my own feet."
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Hohenheim: "You... are you Homunculus!?" "I don't understand what has happened!! What do you mean 'how my body is?'!?"
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Homunculus: "Concentrate your mind to inside yourself."
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Homunculus: "As my appreciation for giving me your blood, I gave you a name, I gave you the knowledge."
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Homunculus: "And-------"


Page 27:
Homunculus: "I gave you a body that would never decay." "In exchange for the souls of every human beings in this country."
Inside Hohenheim he hears voices after voices of souls.
"Kill me." "Kill me." "I don't want to die." "Please." "Help" "Someone" "Please kill me." "No." "Get me out...." "Mother."
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Homunculus: "Although," "I took half of them myself."
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Homunculus: "Finally, I was able to come out of that cramped flask."
Hohenheim: "Ah....."
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Homunculus: "I appreciate your cooperation," "Hohenheim"
Hohenheim screams in agony: AHHHHHHHHAAAAGGGGGG
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Page 28:
Back to the current day. Someone is calling Hohhhhhhenheim's name.
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Voice: "...heim..."
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Voice: "...Mr...." "Mr. Hohenheim"
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Izumi: "Hello there, you with the beard!!"
Hohenheim wakes up: "Ah?"
He is on the train.
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Izumi: "Just as I thought." "You're Mr. Hohenheim, right?"
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Izumi: "Do you remember me?"
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They get off the train, and talk while walking in town.
Izumi: "I couldn't have guessed that you're the parent of Ed and Al."
Hohenheim: "Same here. I've never guessed you were the Alchemy master for my sons."


Page 29:
Hohenheim: "I hear you took care of my sons very much. Thank you."
Izumi: "Ahaha! Don't mention it."
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Hohenheim: "... Because I left my home without having acted much as their parent," "they have often had to rely on others to take care of them."
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Izumi: "........." "Maybe you should have had a proper talk with these boys before you left home?"
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Hohenheim: "Yes, indeed." "How embarrassing."
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Izumi coughs: "Cough!"
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Izumi coughs up blood.
Hohenheim: "Mrs. Izumi?"
Sig: "Izumi!!"


Page 30:
Sig: "Medicine, medicine."
Hohenheim: "Are you all right!?"
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Hohenheim touches Izumi on her shoulder.
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Hohenheim realizes something.

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Hoenheim: "Mr. Sig, could you go and get a ride?"
Sig: "Eh?..."
Izumi: "It will be all right. This is my usual thing."
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Hohenheim: "I have a bit of medical knowledge," "And this is not all right."
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Hohenheim: "Hurry!"
Sig: "Oh... Oh!"


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After sending out Sig and being alone with Izumi, Hoenheim talks to Izumi.
Hohenheim: "Mrs. Izumi, you..."
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Hohenheim: "You have seen the Truth, haven't you?"
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Hohenheim: "What have you sacrificed?"
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Izumi is reluctant to talk: "....."
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Hohenheim: "Please don't evade the question. I'm not one of those run-of-the-mill Alchemists." "Besides, as I've just told you, I know some Medical knowledge also."
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Hohenheim: "Although, it is of Xing Medicine, so you might think it is questionable."
Izumi: "Xingese... ??"
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Hohenheim's words about knowing Xingese Medicine seem to have caught Izumi's attention. Izumi decide to tell to Hoenheim.
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Izumi: "Some of my organs have been taken away."
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Izumi: "I tried to resurrect my dead child, and as a result I am left with a body that can never have a child again."
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Hohenheim: "I see..." "Hm." "I see..."
Izumi" Cough.
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Hohenheim: "Mrs. Izumi, have you been contacted by the Military recently?"
Izumi: "? In the past, Fuhrer visited me and tried to persuade me to become a State Alchemist... but I refused."
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Hohenheim: " That's good." "Excuse me for a moment."
Izumi: "Eh? "


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Hohenheim places his had into Izumi's stomach.
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Izumi: "...Ah..?"



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Hohenheim pulls out his hand from Izumi's body.
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Izumi coughs up blood.
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Sig sees that.
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Sig punches Hoenheim.
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Sig: "Izumi!!" "Stay strong!"


Page 35:
Sig: "Izumi!!"
Izumi: "Hon, calm down." "I am all right."
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Izumi: "... I can breath easier."
Izumi <in small letters> cough
Sig: "Nonsense!! You were stabbed in the stomach. Show me your wound!!"
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Izumi: "Wound..." "It's not there."
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Hohenheim: "The organs that were taken away, those were the evidence of your sin and can not be returned. But," "I reorganized the inside of your stomach a little so that you would get better blood circulations."
Hohenheim: <in small letters> ouch
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Hohenheim: "Mrs. Izumi, you can not fall yet."
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Izumi: ".....Hohenheim" "You, what are you...!?"
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Hohenheim: "A monster..." "That's what I might say in a case like this, but I should tell you the truth."
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Hohenheim: "I am a Philosopher's Stone, in a shape of a human being called, Von Hohenheim."
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Caption on the Right: "The Philosophers Stone, what Ed and Al have chased, searched, and longed for. That is the true identity of their father, Hohenheim...!!??

(End of chapter 75)
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Continues on chapter 76, coming out in Japan on Friday, Oct. 12.




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Wow... thanks everyone for the summary/raw/partial translations!

It's definitely an intense chapter.. Hoho takes it pretty bad when he wakes up and him and the "homunculus" are the only ones alive.. then again, any person would react the same way. On a lighter note, we now know why Father dresses the way he does ^^;;

So father is an artificial being that was created in the flask yes? How did Hoho's master manage to create him in the first place?? The homunculi we know all need a stone to be created, but the one in the flask had to create one himself... so there is more than one way to create a homunculus

So Father and Hoho each share half of the same philosophers stone... but I thought envy had the xerxes stone... maybe i made that up?? So if it takes so much mass carnage to create a stone, where did all the homunculi get their stones from? The comparitively little carnage in all the different wars in Amestris don't seem to be enough, plus the homunculi seem to have lived through most of those

Another thing... Hoho describes himself as "a philosopher's stone in a human body that is called Van Hoenheim"... but he was originally human first, so why does he call himself the stone? His body was literally turned into a stone and is not like the homunculi who have a stone as their center? Both Father and Hoho never seem to die when killed, unlike the other homunculi who die but then regenerate... so the form of the philosopher's stone inside gives them different abilities.

Sigh... too many more questions, not enough concrete answers.... still no word on Al's almost rejection or the group that's heading right into enemy hands....
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~ Chapter 75 Translation, Hoenheim's Harrowed History ~

Remember to keep your eyes peeled on mangahelpers.com and fmahq.com for the TMI release of this chapter!

Page 1:
Side: Having received a name from Homunculus, Hoenheim is now gaining knowledge...learning how read, write, and...

SFX: Scrape scrape scrape
Hoenheim: This is "Sun".

Kid: Like this?
Hoenheim: Right.
And this is "Moon."
Kid: Hey, how do you write "Fish?"

Hoenheim: This way.
And if you write this, it says, "Catch three fish."

Guy 1: Man, being able to read and write sure is neat.
Guy 2: Yeah, smarts make it harder for the masters to put one over on you.

Guy 1: When and how did you learn all this, anyway?
Hoenheim: Wouldn't you like to know!

Page 2:
Hoenheim: I'll show you guys how to add numbers tomorrow, okay?
Guy: All right, thanks!

Master: HEY!
What do you greasy little slackers think you're doing?

You worthless scum, you want me to give your next meal to the dogs?
Hoenheim: Ack! I'm sorry, Master!

Master: Can you write?
Hoenheim: Uhh, yeah...I can read, write, and do basic math...

Master: Well, I'll be.
I thought it was strange...the servants have all been getting smarter. So you're the one teaching them, eh?

Page 3:
Hoenheim: In addition to reading and writing, I can do a little alchemy too, Master.
Why don't I assist you in a more useful capacity?

Title: The last days of Xerxes

Hoenheim: "All things are made from one, and all things will return to one."

"In other words, one is all."

"By means of one, we have all. Within one, all things exist."

Page 4:
Hoenheim: "Without the whole, there is no piece."

Flask: You've become a fair alchemist, Hoenheim.
Hoenheim: Not good enough to be anything more than an assistant.

The Master's arm still reaches very far...

I'm so grateful to you.
Flask: For what?

Hoenheim: The things you've taught me are the reason I have such a good life now.
My days as a slave seem so long ago.
Flask: Please, I should be thanking you.

It was your blood that gave me life. In a way, you're like my father.

Small text: Hahaha
Hoenheim: Wow, I don't even have a house or family, and I've already got a kid!

Page 5:
Flask: A family, eh...
It must be inconvenient, being human. Your species is forced to gather in communities and breed in order to survive.
Hoenheim: Don't call it "breeding."

Maybe it seems foolish from your point of view,
but we humans get a lot of joy from friends and family.
Flask: Hmmmm...if you say so...

Hoenheim: What would bring you happiness, then?
Flask: Well...

Nothing luxurious...If I leave this flask, I'll die.
So maybe having my own body, and being released from this container.

Page 6:
Master: Hey!
Did you take him out of the lab again, Hoenheim?

I've got business with Homunculus,
hand him over.

Hoenheim: My apologies.

Master: It seems the King wants to talk to you.
Flask: Oh?

Hoenheim: The king?
What could he want?

Flask: Immortality?

Hrmm...What does a guy with so much power and influence want to mess with that for?
Master: Bite your tongue, Homunculus.

Page 7:
Master: You've been summoned before the King of Xerxes!

Commit another rudeness and I'll smash your flask!
Flask: Oh yeah? That's big talk.

If you try something with me here, won't it be your HEADS that end up smashed?

King: Enough blather.

Immortality.
Is it possible or not?

Page 8:
Flash: Scared of aging, eh?
That's sad, your highness.

Fine.
I'll teach you the secret to eternal life.
SFX: Griiiiin

SFX: Shak
Shak

Page 9:
Farmer: What're you boys diggin'? It's huge!
Worker: An irrigation system!

The King has ordered a gigantic canal to be dug around the entire country!
Farmer: Really?
Maybe our fields will be able to use it, too.

The King of Xerxes sure is a great man.
Even up in his palace, he's thinkin' of small-towners like us.
Wife: Work hard!

Bubbles: I hope they finish soon!
We'll dig our own ditch once it's done!

SFX: Snxxx

Page 10:
SFX: Clop clop

Farmer: What'n tarnation...
SFX: Shuffle

SFX: CREE

SFX: FWOOOOOOM

Farmer: You were digging the ditch...!

Page 11:
SFX: CLOP CLOP
Farmer: Hii!

Wife: Aah-
Aaah-

SFX: FWOOM

Guy: Don't leave anyone alive.
Guy 2: Right.

SFX: Boooooom

Guy: Next up is...

Page 12:
Slave 1: I heard that town to the north, Bodas, got wiped off the map last night.
Slave 2: What happened?

Slave 1: I heard it was attacked by rebels.
They killed everyone and burned all the buildings to the ground.

Hoenheim: Sickening.
Those rebels disgust me, killing everyone in Bodas with no provocation...

Flask: Oh...
How terrible...
Flask SFX: Shhaaa

King: Hurry...

Faster...

Page 13:
King: Faster!

Master: Your Highness.
The "irrigation system",
the Transmutation Circle you desired, is complete.
King: Mm...finally. It took so long...

It's all ready now, right Homunculus?
Flask: Sure it.
Soon you'll be immortal, king.

King: My heart goes out to the people who lived in the towns we had to use...
but now...

Master: Under your wise and compassionate rule, highness,
the people of Xerxes will live in peace and prosperity for all eternity.

Page 14:
Master: Now.
It's time to begin the ritual.
SFX: crackle crackle crackle

SFX: crackle crackle crackle

SFX: crackle crackle crackle
Knife SFX: Slice

SFX: Drip drip

SFX: crackle crackle

Page 15:
ALL SFX: Zuzuzuzu

Hoenheim: Amazing.
The King's really going to become immortal!

This is the dawn of a new era!

Page 16:
SFX: ZUZUZUZU
King: Ooh...is this...

King: Immortali-?!
Master: Rrgh!

King: What is it?
What's wrong?!
Master: Khagh!

King: Guh-
Mmph-

No...
You said you wouldn't do anything...to us...
SFX: Slide slide slide

Horses: NEEEEEEEEI!

People: GHA-
URGH-
KHARGH
SFX: ZUZUZUZUZUZUZU

Page 17:
ALL SFX: Zuzuzu
Hoenheim: What is this?!
What's happening!

Homun-

What have you done?!

Flask: YOU are standing in the true center of the Transmutation Circle.
And I'm going to use the blood that you've given me to open the gate.

We stand together at the center of all things.
My blood kin, Hoenheim.

Page 18-19:
SFX: BZZT-
RRRRUMBLE

GHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

Page 20:
SFX: DODODODODODODODODODO

Page 21:
SFX: BZOOOOO-

Page 22:
Hoenheim: Ugh...
What...

Why's it so quiet?
Someone...

Anyone...

Page 23:
Hoenheim: They're...they're all dead.

Someone...

Willard?
Mehitilt?
Reinmyle?
Tony?!
Mayo?

What is this...

Someone...
Please, answer me...

Page 24:
King: You're wasting your time.
They've all had their souls ripped out.

Hoenheim: Your majesty!
You're safe!
How do I look?

I tried to take the form I thought would be most appropriate...

What about YOUR body?
Does it feel good?

Page 25:
Hoenheim: You're...
me...

Page 26:
Father: I used the data from your blood to make my new "container"...
Aaah...
I finally have my own feet to walk on.

Hoenheim: Is...
is that YOU, Homunculus?!
I have no idea what happened?
What do you mean, does my body "feel good?"

Father: Close your eyes, and focus on your inner thoughts.

As thanks for your blood, I gave you a name.
I gave you knowledge.

And now...

Page 27:
Father: I've given you immortality.
In exchange for the souls of every citizen in this country.
Small bubbles: Kill me
Kill me
I don't wanna die
No
Kill me
Let me out
Please
I'm scared
Where am I
Please help

Father: Well,
I took half of them for myself, actually.

I'm finally free of that cramped little flask.
Hoenheim: N-

Father: Thank you for everything,
Hoenheim.
SFX: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Page 28:
Small bubbles: Heim...

...Mister...
Mister Hoenheim...

Izumi: Excuse me! You, with the beard!
Hoenheim: Snx-wha?

Izumi: I was right.
You're Mr. Hoenheim, aren't you?

Do you recognize me?

I can't believe I chanced upon Ed and Al's father!
Hoenheim: Same here, I never expected to run into their master!

Page 29:
Hoenheim: Thanks for taking care of my boys.
Izumi: Ahaha! My pleasure!

Hoenheim: I left them without ever really acting like a father...
they keep having to rely on others...

Izumi: Perhaps you should've had a real talk with them before you left?

Hoenheim: No, no...
I was too ashamed.

SFX: KHACK-

Hoenheim: Mrs. Izumi?
Sig: Izumi!
SFX: Cough

Page 30:
Sig: Pills, Pills...
SFX: Hackack
Hoenheim: Are you all right?!

Hoenheim: Mr. Sig, please bring your car over here.
Sig: Huh?
Izumi: It's all right...this happens all the time.

Hoenheim: I know a fair amount about the medicine,
and you are NOT all right.

Hurry!
Sig: R-right!
SFX: Step

Page 31:
Hoenheim: Mrs. Izumi...

You saw the Truth, didn't you?

What did you sacrifice?

Please don't try to hide it from me.
I assure you, I'm not one of "those" alchemists.
And as I said, I have some knowledge of the healing arts.

Of course, they're Xingese skills, so you may think them suspicious.
Izumi: Xingese?

Page 32:
Izumi: It took some of my insides.
I tried to resurrect my dead child,
and ended up with a body that could never bear children again.

Hoenheim: I see...
Mmm...
Yes...
Izumi: Cough

Hoenheim: Mrs. Izumi,
has the military tried to contact you recently?
Izumi: Well, the Fuhrer came once, trying to persuade me to become a State Alchemist. I refused, though.

Hoenheim: Good.
Hold still.
Izumi: Hmm?

Page 33:
SFX: Poke splurch
Izumi: Wha-

Page 34:
SFX: Bzzzrt

SPLUCSH

SFX: WHAM

Sig: Izumi!
Hold on!

Page 35:
Sig: Izumi!!
Izumi: Calm down, dear.
I'm fine.

...I can breathe so easily.
Small bubble: Cough
Sig: Are you insane? He stabbed you in the gut!
Let me see the wound!

Izumi: There...
is...none.

Hoenheim: As the flesh you lost is a symbolizes your sin, I can't return it...
Small text: Ouch.
Hoenheim: But I've rearranged your insides to improve blood flow.

Mrs. Izumi,
You mustn't fall yet.

Izumi: Hoenheim...
What on Earth ARE you?!

Page 36:
Hoenheim: "A monster"...
is what I'd normally say, but I'll tell YOU the truth.

I'm the Philosopher's Stone
given the form of a man, and the name "Van Hoenheim."
Side: The Philosopher's Stone, eternally sought, eternally desired. Is it's true form Ed's father, Hoenheim?!
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QUOTE(*Yukiko @ Sep 12 2007, 03:32 PM) *
Hoho describes himself as "a philosopher's stone in a human body that is called Van Hoenheim"... but he was originally human first, so why does he call himself the stone? His body was literally turned into a stone and is not like the homunculi who have a stone as their center? Both Father and Hoho never seem to die when killed, unlike the other homunculi who die but then regenerate... so the form of the philosopher's stone inside gives them different abilities.


I'd say it's an emotional thing. He doesn't SEE himself as a human any more, after how long he's lived and what he's been through. I mean, the guy constantly calls himself a monster. I think he feels like he's lost his humanity.

On another note, my translation's up: http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/...showtopic=11728
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Thanks HisshouBuraiKen for your translation!!

Yes, I agree that it's more of emotional thing, that being the Philosopher's Stone is so overwhelming that that's how he feels, more of a walking P Stone, than a human being.
Poor thing.. Now I see that he wasn't given a choice. Hoho just became a Stone. mellow.gif


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OHHHH!!!~~~Yippeeee!!!~~~I'll translate the chapter tomorrow! (o;
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LOL! That scene where Sig punches Hoho is funny! Heeheehee. I guess it's how Hoho's legs were bent or something.

And, man, can I just say, for the millionth time, that young Hoho is hot? Young Hoho is HAWT! Graaaa~h

"Intense chapter" is right. Poor Hoho getting used by Homunculus. And that "Truth" eye opening under Hoenheim is just so freakin'... freaky! In a really awesome way.

Wait. Didn't Father put the stones inside Envy, Lust, Greed and the other homunculi? Could that mean that mean that Hoho can make some, too?
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