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Chapter 74 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Aug 14 2007, 03:22 AM
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Tombow, you're the best! *big squishy hug* Sorry if I wasn't of much help...still on elementary Japanese, and it doesn't really help too much with reading raws yet. sleep.gif;;; Obviously...

Yeah, I think it's more feasible for the boy to be a young Father. Perhaps Hohenheim was related somehow to him (maybe they really are brothers...maybe) and probably had better treatment than Father being a slave. Yup...now Father would have more reasons to not cooperate with Hohenheim...but like I said, these are just big fat maybe's.

Still...we can't really tell. Dang lookalikes. XD Who knows?

And no wonder it was called "Homunculus in a Flask". Ooh, what was Pride doing hanging around in a flask, anyway? Which means someone has already created him...in a way...and which also supports the idea that the young boy could be Hohenheim, and he may have been working for a younger, more human Father.

ROYAI! *fallsoveranddies* It's brave of Riza to take a risk - though it might be possible that Pride didn't get anything. I couldn't understand the code myself till Roy deciphered it in the bathroom! The guy emptying his bladder was a nice touch. XD Whoa, looks like Roy also knows the secret...and it was very smart of him to burn the paper. Mwahaha.

Go Olivier, kick some corrupt upper brass butt! XDDDDDD Olivier > Führer, definitely. I liked her encounter with Roy. I smell another major rivalry - get it? Major? *shot for bad puns* And I like how other characters are returning - Bido, and Greed (I mean, he makes much more than just a cameo appearance this time), and Pride...not to mention the guys from Dublith! Hope to see more of Izumi and the gang in Briggs in the next chapter!

And that, my friends, are just a few reasons why I have immensely enjoyed chapter 74. *bows*

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Did I mention the Royai? wink.gif Yup.


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post Aug 14 2007, 03:30 AM
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At the page 22 you say Miles even if it's Mason^^

Oooh, Pride was created from Hoho's blood?! O.O

I WANT CHAPTER 75! *cries*


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post Aug 14 2007, 03:41 AM
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Oh yeah...oh noes, Hohenheim's blood? So technically, the Elric brothers and Pride share the same blood...?

Hmmm, useful little tidbit for future chapters.

If Father really is Hoho's master, then he must truly be a scary master, drawing blood from his poor...slave. As if he isn't scary now...


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post Aug 14 2007, 04:16 AM
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Ok, the page-by-page translation/summary of chapter 74 is done!!! (It's on page 1) ^^
I will go over again and edit typo and misspelling and grammar errors and whatnot and tidy up the whole thing tomorrow!!
(Thanks Reta McClain for catching my boo-boo on page 22. ^^)

Wow, what a chapter!!!! So much happenings!!
It will take me several days to digest all the new info!!
Right now, my head is sleep deprived, and after translating Mustang's last bit with him saying "Nooo!! That's impossible!!!" and my head is playing the Star War thing, and the Selim saying "Mustang, I'm your father.. " XDD That means, I better get some sleep. XDD

Anyway, IMO, Olivier Armstrong is the guttiest FMA character I've ever seen!!
Yap, more than Ed, IMO!!

Oh, and... this OT: To our great ZOMGFT scanlator..
Happy Birthday, Umeko!!!


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post Aug 14 2007, 04:36 AM
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If Pride was made from Hoho's blood, that would mean Ed and Al are related to Pride, meaning, yet again, they have a homunculus/half sibling, just like the anime. (except it's not Envy this time XD)
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Happy birthday, Umeko! happy.gif

Hahaha...

"Mustang...I AM YOUR FATHER."

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

XDDDDD

Indeed. I can't get over the fact that Ed and Al are also related to a Homunculus in the manga as well. Hmm...hopefully this'll become some sort of catalyst or a very significant detail in the future. I mean, the only purpose of revealing that Envy was the Elrics' half brother in the anime was to distract Ed so Envy could kill him. Although it was a good ploy...poor Ed was too stunned to attack.


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post Aug 14 2007, 05:40 AM
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Thank you thank you thank you
As always you are so brilliant Hisshou-san smile.gif
Don't wanna read any other translations than yours tongue.gif
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post Aug 14 2007, 05:58 AM
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Thanks!!! this chapter was awesome!!! that´s... Hoho?! O-O
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post Aug 14 2007, 06:01 AM
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thaaaanks!!! You are the best! this chapter is great!! I cant believe it!! That´s Hoho!! That´s the way it was!!! amazing. thanks a lot!!
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Thank youuuuuuu!!!

Heeheehee. Yey for Royai~ Their code is freakin' awesome!

Thanks thanks thanks!

QUOTE (Tombow @ Aug 14 2007, 07:16 PM) *
Right now, my head is sleep deprived, and after translating Mustang's last bit with him saying "Nooo!! That's impossible!!!" and my head is playing the Star War thing, and the Selim saying "Mustang, I'm your father.. " XDD


LOL! That is SO omake material. XD

QUOTE (Tombow @ Aug 14 2007, 07:16 PM) *
Anyway, IMO, Olivier Armstrong is the guttiest FMA character I've ever seen!!
Yap, more than Ed, IMO!!


Yes. Gutsy. More than Ed? Hmm... I'm not sure I agree, but YES, she is super gutsy. And she's allthemore gutsy-looking because she's so cool and stuff. Ed's always exploding and all (which we love), so he's a sharp contrast to the Queen.

-hops away to reread the chap and mull it over repeatedly-
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post Aug 14 2007, 08:02 AM
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Now now... This chapter just kicks ass. biggrin.gif Great plot twists!


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Thanks a lot, once again! : D


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QUOTE(o-ren @ Aug 14 2007, 07:59 AM) *
Does anyone else think that "Father" could have been Honenhiem (sp)'s daddy which was some sort of alchemist (pehaps a poor one) which is the reason why they resemble each other?

I rather see "Father" and Elric's Dad originated from the same person, as in Calvino’s Cloven Viscount. In that novel, the body of the main character were hit by a cannonball and split in half, with the mentality split also, one good and one evil. At the end, they meet each other again, fight to death and merge back into one.
If my guess turns out true, then there is nothing strange why "Father" dreamt himself being called Hohenheim, because he IS Hohenheim.
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Just read translation...thanks for all your hard work!
But Tombow, on page one, you said 'bustard'. Is it censoring for kiddies O-O?

And some spelling mistakes I found while reading...
Page 13, though, "But, his excellency works fast, and it helps."
Page 17, brought back a splendid deer
Hawkeye taps her mug
Page 18, Mustang checks the clock
Page 22, Soldier asks Mason
Page 26, Sight of Father being asleep

Might have missed some...but whatever <-< I'm not being too finicky, am I?


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post Aug 14 2007, 02:57 PM
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@ehxhfdl14 - Oh! Thanks!! *hugs!!* I will go & correct them now. happy.gif
Oh, and about "bustard," Umm.. no.. it's not a censored word on our board, I think... ^^ Although, in this chapter I was debating while translating that part to use that one or simply say "him" because it could be either way without changing the flavor of Raw much. I could go either way here, IMO, and yeah, probably just go with simply stating "him" here. ^^
On other occasions in some other chapters we must use that word or some other bad word because that's what characters are saying in Japanese in that part, usually in some very emotionally charged scenes, and it's essential to convey the emotion the character is feeling there in that part of Raw. smile.gif

And, I will probably go over the summary, and fix more translation kinks. ^^

And, thanks AA battery for the wise reminder about Bladley spelling thingy that it would probably eventually get corrected. I agree with AA that as in the similar cases in the past, this would probably eventually get corrected. Meantime, I guess I should go with spelling with L and hence using Lebecca and not Rebecca for here for now. ^^


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