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What Do You Like The Most About Roy?
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Little Washu
post Mar 6 2008, 04:18 PM
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^You should put that in spoiler tags.

And had he refused that, he would have gotten fired. Leading right back to my point, that if he were fired he would not be able to become Fuher. And I believe it was because of that very event that made him decide to become Fuher, so no one would have to follow orders like that again.

Now, let's say he refused and the order was given to Kimbley. Had Kimbley done it, their death would be in vain. As long as it was Roy who killed Winry's parents , their death had a significant meaning, in a sense. And, remember, both Winry and Pinako forgave him.


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post Mar 6 2008, 04:27 PM
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Let's go with what you said, if Kimblee (and why Kimblee)
had got the orders, mustang could have protected them.
I mean, he is the flame alchemist. dry.gif
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Little Washu
post Mar 6 2008, 04:32 PM
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And if he didn't know? And once AGAIN, protecting them would get him fired.

I chose Kimbley because he seemed to be someone they'd choose if Roy refused. Think about it, Kimbley wouldn't refuse or argue about it. That's how Kimbley's character is. I'm not very versed in military ways, but I do know that listening to orders is a definite requirement. Just like in school, or any other job.


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post Mar 6 2008, 04:42 PM
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Will you stop with "he'd get fired"! Say, just say he did get fired,
he'd still be the flame alchemist, just like ed will always be the
FullMetal Alchemist. Then he could start his on army and be the
Fuher.

And Grand (the Iron Blood Alchemist) could have been the one
to do mustang's job. By the way, I do hate Grand. dry.gif
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post Mar 6 2008, 04:50 PM
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QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Say, just say he did get fired,
he'd still be the flame alchemist, just like ed will always be the
FullMetal Alchemist. Then he could start his on army and be the
Fuher.

I'm pretty sure that to be the Fuher, you have to be in the military. Being an alchemist has nothing to do with it.

QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 04:42 PM) *
And Grand (the Iron Blood Alchemist) could have been the one
to do mustang's job.

That still would have no real meaning in the story.
QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Will you stop with "he'd get fired"!

Only when you get it through your thick head.

Just keep complaining and arguing, it racks up my post count.


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post Mar 6 2008, 05:03 PM
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I never said that been an alchemist had anything to do with
being Fuher, look at Bradley, all I mean was that he would
always be known as the flame alchemist. And with the title
he would have a following.

If nothing a following of women.
And I'm not arguing, I'm stating my oppion, like I told
Fushigi Rockna. dry.gif
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post Mar 6 2008, 05:11 PM
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If he were fired or something, the military could easily create a lie, stating that he's a traitor. And even if he had a following, that still wouldn't make him Fuher. It would make him a man with followers.

Opinion eh? Call it what you will, to each his own.


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post Mar 6 2008, 05:26 PM
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You're not grasping my point. With a big enough following he could START his own army. And if the military started a rumor that he was a traitor [ SPOILER ] (which they did in the anime) he would still have followers that would follow he to death.

And why are you defending he so?
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post Mar 6 2008, 05:35 PM
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Ooh, what's he got? Like 10 people? That's not even enough to take out Connecticut.

Because you keep pressing the issue.


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post Mar 6 2008, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 03:42 PM) *
Second, it's a
show, not real life. Third, as Hughes puts it, if he didn't want
to kill people, he should have got a desk job.

Just because it's a show doesn't mean reality can't apply to it. Most of the cast are very human and true to life with their emotions. The Amestrian military is also based off many real life militaries, specifically the German military during the Nazi regime.

And what? Youth aren't allowed to be naive? Because that's exactly what he was. And he got one huge as hell reality check.


QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 03:57 PM) *
And if my memory serve, Hughes got promoted to a higher rank
then mustang, and like I said he had a desk job. By the way, I've
seen the whole series more then three times.

Actually, Hughes always stayed one rank below Roy. He intentionally did so so he could help push Roy to the top. He only got promoted later for dying in the line of duty, not for anything he did while alive. So this point is null and void. :/

And you're bringing up how many times you've seen the series because...?

QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Will you stop with "he'd get fired"! Say, just say he did get fired,
he'd still be the flame alchemist, just like ed will always be the
FullMetal Alchemist. Then he could start his on army and be the
Fuher.

This is a joke right? Right, because starting your own army is sooooooooo easy.

And you really missed something here with the story of FMA. :/ You only have those titles because you're a alchemist of the state. If Roy got discharged he would still use Flame Alchemy but he would not be the "Flame Alchemist" for that is a title granted to him by the Fuhrer. The same goes for Ed.

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And Grand (the Iron Blood Alchemist) could have been the one
to do mustang's job. By the way, I do hate Grand. dry.gif

Bigwigs never do their own dirty work. Ever. :/


And can we stoped with the "getting fired"? For starters the correct term is discharged and second of all THIS IS GRAND GIVING THE ORDERS HERE. He wouldn't have sent him home he would've KILLED HIM.


Crystal Hughes you couldn't have honestly expected to come in here and say you don't like Mustang without Mustang fans arguing with you. This is a thread of people who LIKE Mustang. Coming in here and continuing this is just asking for trouble. It's best you just leave this thread and stop this.

Btw for the record, in the manga Roy isn't the one who killed Winry's parents. In the manga it's Scar. So what's your excuse there?


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post Mar 6 2008, 05:43 PM
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Fine. I'll leave. I'll go to Which good guy/ girl character do you hate the most.
It's been fun.
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post Mar 6 2008, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 05:43 PM) *
And if you're wondering, I have not changed my mind about him. sleep.gif

No one cares.

If you hate him so much make a "What do you hate about Roy?" thread. Hell, I'll even make it for you if I have to.


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QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 05:43 PM) *
First, he's supose to be the "flame alchemist". Second, you didn't answer my question.
Does this mean you're against him?

And if you're wondering, I have not changed my mind about him. sleep.gif

edit: nvm what i said here it wasn't addressed to me.

I don't care if you don't change your mind but use some common sense please and not mouth off around Mustang fans about Mustang. That's just asking for .... to start.


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post Mar 6 2008, 06:19 PM
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Fine. I sorry.
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post Mar 6 2008, 06:20 PM
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I realise I'm late and most of the points have be covered but;
QUOTE(Little Washu @ Mar 6 2008, 11:50 PM) *
QUOTE(Crystal Hughes @ Mar 6 2008, 04:42 PM) *
Will you stop with "he'd get fired"!

Only when you get it through your thick head.

Crystal is right, he wouldn't get fired. He'd be shot most likely or imprisoned for a long time. Disobeying orders is crime.
Even if he wasn't arrested for that and he protected Win's parents that would be aiding the enemy which is normally a Capitol crime (from what little military law I can remember).

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Then he could start his on army and be the Fuher.

First, you don't have to hit return when you hit the edge of the text field, the board wraps your text for you.
Now to the quote; Ahahahahahahahahahahaha, ha ha.
Assuming people followed him the State would crush him pretty fast. Enacting a Military Coup isn't going to sit well and, seeing it's treason, Ol' Flamey would certainly be killed. Even if he didn't get crushed I doubt the citizens are going to be to happy about some upstart starting a civil war so he's unlikely to last long unless he goes brutal dictator on them for a good few generations.

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First, I know plenty about real military life.
Second, it's a show, not real life.
Third, as Hughes puts it, if he didn't want to kill people, he should have got a desk job

1) You evidently don't.
2) Get out! Really? Then why do you claim to hate Roy and be unable to forgive him?
3) There's a difference (slight thought it may be) between killing enemy fighters and civilian doctors.

Also, I like his eyes. I could get lost in them forever. <3

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I'll go to Which good guy/ girl character do you hate the most.

I'm going to google and search "titmouse" and see if any boobies come up on image search.


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