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Chapter 70 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Apr 10 2007, 01:35 PM
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I can't believe that it's the Cow that's Pride![/not a real spoiler]
Seriously though it was a semi surprising choice.


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post Apr 10 2007, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(Popogeejo @ Apr 10 2007, 04:35 PM) [snapback]528093[/snapback]
Seriously though it was a semi surprising choice.

The real question is - how is it even possible? Sure, the revelation was surprising, but after browsing through all the interactions between Wrath and Pride I can't say it's making a whole lot of sense. Hopefully, the translation will clear things up a bit. Perhaps some kind of possession?

Hrm...label me officially perplexed blink.gif
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post Apr 10 2007, 01:46 PM
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^ What's so odd about two homunculi living together? >P

Though I hadn't thought of posession, I will admit.
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post Apr 10 2007, 01:50 PM
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Yes! Somebody else who thinks that it could be some kind of posession!! But I don't what to say anything before reading translations (but , please, look at his eyes >____>).


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post Apr 10 2007, 01:54 PM
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After looking at the RAW, all I can say is...

HOLY Hahaha. ON A Hahaha. SANDWICH.

SELIM IS PRIDE?!

Didn't see that one coming...

XD I really need to learn to read Japanese.... *can't wait for the translation*

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Pages seven and eight, YAY. Thank you. ♥


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post Apr 10 2007, 01:57 PM
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[quote name='Triple Soul' date='Apr 10 2007, 04:46 PM' post='528097']
What's so odd about two homunculi living together? >P

My response: What is odd is not their living together (that didn't sound right at all laugh.gif), but rather the discussions between Bradley and Selim. Barring the 'cloaked in shadow' conversation in the hallway that had us all guessing, what Selim says has absolutely nothing to do with him being Pride. Granted, he could be said to be putting on a show much like his father, but wasn't it emphasized that Pride does not like being around humans - yet he his fascinated with Edward Elric?! He does not so much stay away from humans as he is kept away by his tutors and the bodyguards around him. This is why I mentioned possession. Perhaps Pride, being the most primitive of the homunculi does not even have a body (i.e. shadow form) and must therefore take possession of a human to speak. That's really the only justification I can think of at the moment...

Wow that post looks like a government secret or something! cool.gif Ah, the joys of spoilers!
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post Apr 10 2007, 01:59 PM
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I know this sounds really annoying, but can anyone read what Ed is saying in pages 7 and 8? I want to know so badly. ^^;

I really wish I knew Japanese... X_X

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Perhaps Pride, being the most primitive of the homunculi does not even have a body (i.e. shadow form) and must therefore take possession of a human to speak. That's really the only justification I can think of at the moment...


That makes sense.


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post Apr 10 2007, 02:03 PM
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HOLY S!!!! I never guessed! Way to go Arakawa! I never thought Winry had it in her! JUST JOKING!! Can't wait for the translation.


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post Apr 10 2007, 02:39 PM
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I have a question for the people who've read it, was Roy in it at all? And if so can you tell us what happend with him?


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post Apr 10 2007, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE (kuzon234ray @ Apr 10 2007, 05:39 PM) *
I have a question for the people who've read it, was Roy in it at all? And if so can you tell us what happend with him?

Roy was indeed in Chapter 70. He was talking with his favorite flower lady yet again, and it appears as though he made good on his promise of the last chapter, literally buying the entire flower cart. laugh.gif


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post Apr 10 2007, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (His Name is Unknown @ Apr 10 2007, 01:57 PM) *
Perhaps Pride, being the most primitive of the homunculi does not even have a body (i.e. shadow form) and must therefore take possession of a human to speak. That's really the only justification I can think of at the moment...

Ah, I like that, His Name is Unknown! It would also make more a more interesting interaction, as we have the Fuhrer, also Wrath, interacting on a daily basis with his (seemingly) beloved son Selim, also Pride. It can definitely go a long way towards shaping Wrath's character, too, and his actions for the rest of the story.
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Please discuss the actual content of Chapter 70 on Chapter 70 Spoiler Party!! thread. biggrin.gif

<Moved posts on this thread with discussion of actual contents of chapter 70 to Chapter 70 Spoiler Party!! thread. >


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post Apr 10 2007, 02:50 PM
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I'm so excited I think I'll just try to be brief and to the point or else I don't know how will this end up:

My theory: Pride ain't exactly Selim, but his shadow/sth. I mean, considering the way Selim acted, plus Pride's comment (too much time around humans blah stuff), I think that every time we have seen Selim acting so childishly it was not Pride acting human. My guess is that he was latent inside him/on his shadow whatsoever.
Now, whether Pride's body has always been Selim or this one is just his latest host, I dunno.

Oh, and congrats to all those people guessing it could be Selim (At least CSakuraS got it right -links provided by herself at livejournal-. Remember her "Pride?" avatar? It most certainly included him).

More:
Riza can detect hommunculus Ki/Killer Instinct? huh.gif I know it's just a narrative device, but I didn't like it much. Felt kinda out of place... Maybe if it had been a Xing character... Luckily there's her smarts too, to compensate.

LOL @ EdWin scenes and Mustang having bought all the flowers.

Mustang: Who are you?
Granny: (Shows armstrong hair and sparkle) I'm the flower selling granny that has passed down in the Arsmtrong family for generations. XDDDD
Always welcome to have a running gag come back happy.gif

And the end! Everyone is so offuscated by TEH Revelation that we keep forgetting the end!
Ed did receive his first orders/mission as State Alchemist! And it is not to take part on a war/bloodshed... But to start it! (if I got it right, that is).
Do you get it people? We had predicted Sloth might have been given the job! Envy's name also came up! Kimbley's too! But it's FRIGGIN' EDWARD 'FULLMETAL' ELRIC himself who got such order!!!
(well, there's also find Scar and Marcoh, but whatever)
Once again Manga pwns Anime.

Best chapter since... since 53! IMHO.
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post Apr 10 2007, 02:55 PM
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My guess is the same as someone else (sorry, was reading too fast to catch your name)...

Selim is NOT Pride. Pride is someone who can (or perhaps must) possess others.
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post Apr 10 2007, 03:06 PM
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Shamelessly stolen from a post by eurogabby at the hagaren_manga LJ community:
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Now, once more Arakawa gives us a hint in Volume 12 when Wrath says "the time of youth might be soon approaching, Pride." Here, I first thought was Wrath was softening and perhaps admitting that Ed may win. However, given Pride's form, it's now clear he was urging Pride to take a bigger role in the fight against the Elrics.


It definitely potentially changes Wrath's characterization. Never has a character had so much potential to be either a damned sneaky bastard or a wholly redeemed character by story's end.

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