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Should Women Fight On The Front Line?, War is an equal opportunity killer
Should Women Fight On The Front Line?
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Twilightz
post Mar 20 2007, 07:51 AM
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Why not? I'm sure it would work in some way. And there are women that want to fight for their country and help it survive through bad times.


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post Mar 20 2007, 09:43 AM
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If they think they can handle it, sure, let them at it. Training and expectations should be on par with what is expected of the men, though.


Neph, i think that is applicable for all cases , you train anyone in the world to do anything and....!

But I think women should not be war , and Twilightz if women want to help their country during a war than sure they can , but on the front line there are others waves for that , for example they can be more proficient nurses and help out the wounded and injured rather than on the front lines ....!
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post Mar 20 2007, 10:17 AM
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Sorry. Just flashbacks to physical education where less was expected of the girls than the guys. In a war scenario, though, if women are to support their brothers and sisters on the frontlines, they should be expected to match their male counterparts' physical efforts and skills. Field agents need to rely on each other, so know lax treatment for some just because they're female.

Personally, I'm not sure how suited women are to a warring environment either, but like I said, if they think they can and they want to, let them try. We'll separate those who can from those who cannot, and walk away with a good force on our shoulders.


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post Mar 20 2007, 10:28 AM
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If a woman wants to fight on the front line..tha i think she should be allowed to but i also see why the armed forces wouldnt let....it has been proven when a female service man is captured by the enemy..different methods of torture are used....and i think you guys no what i mean....so i do understand why they wouldnt want to put any woman in that position....


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post Mar 20 2007, 02:20 PM
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I'm inclined to say no.
For a start men tend to be physically stronger so female soldiers would become a weak link in a defensive line if it gets up close and personal. It also means that there would be statistically fewer women capable of using heavier weapons.
Secondly men have been shown to be more capable at reading maps and with spacial awareness which are important for front line troops.
Mixed formations (groups with both genders) work well as far as I know but very few of these formations work on the front line (Again, only as far as I know.) If female troops get into a jam, as is not uncommon even for male soldiers, then their comrades may feel more inclined to risk their necks these women needlessly where they would normally not.
There is also the threat of capture and rape. I realise this perfectly applicable to male troops as well but if female troops are ever captured then there is probably an increased risk of rape and abuse.

If you can get female troops who can match men then that's fine, all the luck to them but women have better natural abilities that make them bettered to other (actually more risky) roles like counter intelligence (women having better memories, generally better at thinking on their feet.)


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post Mar 21 2007, 12:44 AM
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Neph , I dont think only training suffices for everything , you need to have a instinct in you too.
Also like Popo has mentioned the points where men are more capable , like physical strength cannot be compensated.

Its not about the lax treatment , they can be engaged in many other very helpful things during war time, its not necessary to only help by fight on the front !
I'm sure they can help more without being on the front !
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post Mar 21 2007, 02:04 AM
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And I never said it sufficed for everything. Personally, I don't think women are that suited to the battlefield (see Popo's post), but again, I'm open to them proving themselves.


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post Mar 21 2007, 02:43 AM
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Neph , Women have proved themselves everywhere (other than battlefields I guess) tongue.gif

But Anyways I too dont really think that they are suited for Field Operations, not they cant ~!
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post Mar 21 2007, 05:44 AM
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What if they want to battle in front of the line? I'm saying that if some woman has a good shape, she's intelligent, talented when using weapons and she has all the other skills that are needed in the army, why would anyone turn her away? It's true that raping and abuse is possible when a woman is captured, but if somebody still wants to battle then we should let her. There can be field operations that are suited for women and both genders.


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post Mar 21 2007, 08:42 AM
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Twilightz, there are soo many things people want to do but are restricted to, so anyone cannot do anything !

But in this case there is no need for a restriction , Women who feel that they can help the country during a war on the front , sure they should go , but as you mentioned there would be only some , so its difficult to manage.
Difficult to manage in terms that we cant make a regiment separately for women (or may be we can) , that would be certainly not good , and many other things, but none the less if they think they should , then sure opt of this service.
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post Mar 21 2007, 09:55 AM
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mad.gif NO they should be home making me some bacon!


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post Mar 21 2007, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Popogeejo @ Mar 20 2007, 02:20 PM) [snapback]519997[/snapback]
I'm inclined to say no.
For a start men tend to be physically stronger so female soldiers would become a weak link in a defensive line if it gets up close and personal. It also means that there would be statistically fewer women capable of using heavier weapons.
Secondly men have been shown to be more capable at reading maps and with spacial awareness which are important for front line troops.
Mixed formations (groups with both genders) work well as far as I know but very few of these formations work on the front line (Again, only as far as I know.) If female troops get into a jam, as is not uncommon even for male soldiers, then their comrades may feel more inclined to risk their necks these women needlessly where they would normally not.
There is also the threat of capture and rape. I realise this perfectly applicable to male troops as well but if female troops are ever captured then there is probably an increased risk of rape and abuse.

If you can get female troops who can match men then that's fine, all the luck to them but women have better natural abilities that make them bettered to other (actually more risky) roles like counter intelligence (women having better memories, generally better at thinking on their feet.)

I agree with everything you said here.

Really, it's not sexist =/ It's putting everyone where they have the most potential to be useful.


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post Mar 21 2007, 08:43 PM
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mad.gif NO they should be home making me some bacon!

Typical male thing to say.

Women are just as strong as men and we can take care of ourselves. Women should be able to fight on the front lines out of choice, same with men. In fact, there shouldn't be any front lines. If countries could just get along then we wouldn't have this problem.


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post Mar 22 2007, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(Little Washu @ Mar 22 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]520612[/snapback]
Women are just as strong as men and we can take care of ourselves. Women should be able to fight on the front lines out of choice, same with men.


Women can take care of themselves and men can too , but you just forgot we are living in a dependent soceity , so why not share our part of work.

QUOTE(Little Washu @ Mar 22 2007, 09:13 AM) [snapback]520612[/snapback]
In fact, there shouldn't be any front lines. If countries could just get along then we wouldn't have this problem.


^ thats a completely different thing, off topic, but anyways there cant be such a situation , I think this one-world concept is purely idealistic.
If you think about it , then your only wasting your time !
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post Mar 22 2007, 01:01 AM
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It is rather hilarious that there were no news about a woman ran into a 5 star hotel kitchen and shout to the chefs "What the h#ll are you all doing in here, doing activities that meant for the weaker sex?"
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