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Should Women Fight On The Front Line?, War is an equal opportunity killer
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post Mar 14 2007, 04:33 AM
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We say that women should be treated equal like men and given more rights, yet women are still not allowed to fight on the front line. Now I agree with the fact that women are not physically built like men but still if they can keep up with the boys with all her gear, but also be able to carry the biggest dude to safety on the battlefield should he get injured. And if they are willing to go then I say that we should let them.

So should women be allowed to fight along side men?

Well there are a lot of reasons why and why not and I just think that this issue is something interesting to debate about.


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post Mar 14 2007, 07:55 AM
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What kind of question is this? War knows no gender. It knows no discrimination. If women enlist in a war, they are treated the same, or at least should be. Hell, I'm sure there are many female soldiers that are better than the men at many things.


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post Mar 14 2007, 10:21 AM
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i actually think this is a good debate question. obviously there are women who enlist that are more capable than most of the male soldiers. but you kinda answered your own question when you said "women should be treated equal like men and given more rights", and the keyword is SHOULD. and i think everyone in the real world knows men and women still arent in equal standing in most professions. Theres also a sexual level to the issue; one of the allures of the army is that youre joining an elite fighting fraternity. its not the fault of the women, but it is a valid point to see how a woman in the front line can be a distraction. remember, the US army recruits hardest in rural conservative and poor urban areas where a womans role is still predominantly to look good and to rear children. maybe if men can somehow evolve to stop seeing women as a sexual object first and anything else second, then we wouldnt be keeping capable and willing soldiers off of the front line.


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post Mar 14 2007, 11:29 AM
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Women soldiers are undoutably as capable as the male counterparts, actually I have a cousin who happens to be a border guard and her father was until he retired. In my country(Finland) it is required for people to do half or one year of military or civil service(or else jail time!) unless you have a proper reason why you would not be able to do these things(religion etc). So I believe that in the modern world, when one chooses to become a soldier and serve their country they should be allowed to the front.

I mean rarely people want war, but when in war gender should be nothing to hold them back from fighting for their country, physical fitness etc is individual.... yet the world has been running under the leadership of males forever thus it`s going to be a slow change to have equal rights....

Yet dunno how dead women soldiers would seem, if they were seen in public/news etc... I believe that women soldiers is still a rather confusing concept to many men. I mean to face a woman in combat might seem odd etc, but history it`s example of women soldiers. Let us look to the east and the formerly existed USSR, in WW2 over 800,000 women served in the army as pilots, snipers, machine gunners, tank crew members and partisans...


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post Mar 15 2007, 09:02 PM
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Only if they choose to. They should not be drafted.


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post Mar 15 2007, 10:16 PM
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Only if they receive equal training and equal treatment. If women want equal rights then they should earn equal rights. Their training should be just as vigorous as the men's training. Actually their should no segregation in the training. Obviously women and men should bunk separately, but if they are going to be on the front lines together then they should train together as a single unit.
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post Mar 16 2007, 04:07 AM
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It's as simple as letting women do what they want to do. If they want to fight in the frontlines as well along with men they should be allowed. There's no point in saying no since women have the same rights as men anyway. It's just a matter of allowing women the same rights of men in war. War shows no mercy to anyone it just takes whatever it can, women, children, men, property, animals, anything it pleases and wants. So if women want to help in war, we should allow them the same treatment we give to men. We should allow them to have the same trainig, the same jobs, the same positions, the same weaponry and such. Its just that most people in this world says women can't do as much as men can but its just that they don't allow women to prove themselves yet. They say that can only do this set of jobs and chores bec. that's what women were told to do, they weren't told that they can try and help the military in frontlines. They were just told to clean the house, take care of the children and other things. That's why women in the past weren't knowledgeable in combat bec. they weren;t given training to do so. But women should be allowed to join in the frontline if that's what they wish since serving your country has no bounds or restrictions.


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post Mar 16 2007, 04:19 AM
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Well I am glad that most people agree, and who knows maybe one day we will have a woman running the country.


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Our country is already being runned by a woman. She is the second woman president in the history of our country.


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post Mar 19 2007, 06:23 AM
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QUOTE(Stealth @ Mar 16 2007, 11:19 AM) [snapback]518301[/snapback]
Well I am glad that most people agree, and who knows maybe one day we will have a woman running the country.


We already have, and she was one tough cookie.


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post Mar 19 2007, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(miracle_flame_alchemist147 @ Mar 16 2007, 07:36 PM) [snapback]518302[/snapback]
Our country is already being runned by a woman. She is the second woman president in the history of our country.


President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo...if I am not mistaken? hahaha...

About 3 years ago, Indonesia is being runned by a women too, Megawati Sukarnoe Putri... but she lost to Susilo Bambang in the 2004 pool...
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Time to face the fact.. there are ancient unpopular Chinese history that indicates women be the ruler of the China...but not for long... I can imagine USA is much a better country with Condoleeza Rice and George Bush swapping places/roles/title/whatever you call it... tongue.gif
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post Mar 19 2007, 09:11 AM
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Well , I dont think it would be nice to have women in war.

Just doesn't look nice to see women fight for some reason.

There is a different status for women and looking at that i dont think they should go for wars. I dont any gender Bias or anything , but they simply should not. Both men and women have been designed in different manner for different things , its not that women cant fight but ...

wars sees no gender or things, its brutal and not something that need competition in by men and women , everyone is ment for different things and we should consider them too



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post Mar 19 2007, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(Stealth @ Mar 16 2007, 06:19 AM) [snapback]518301[/snapback]
Well I am glad that most people agree, and who knows maybe one day we will have a woman running the country.


That topic should be in a thread all to its own.
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post Mar 20 2007, 02:50 AM
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If they think they can handle it, sure, let them at it. Training and expectations should be on par with what is expected of the men, though.


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post Mar 20 2007, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(Amol @ Mar 19 2007, 06:11 PM) [snapback]519556[/snapback]
Well , I dont think it would be nice to have women in war.

Just doesn't look nice to see women fight for some reason.

There is a different status for women and looking at that i dont think they should go for wars. I dont any gender Bias or anything , but they simply should not. Both men and women have been designed in different manner for different things , its not that women cant fight but ...

wars sees no gender or things, its brutal and not something that need competition in by men and women , everyone is ment for different things and we should consider them too


Hmh, well there`s a truth in what you say, but really it`s all about free will and I think many men will/would be shocked to face a woman in battle, but they might even underestimate them. (I would be shocked at first really cause it`s not what I would expect to face)

But there are other possibilities for women to help the war effort if not as soldiers, during WW2 my country Finland had an organization named Lotta Svärd, which was made out of women. They took care of the wounded etc so I guess there are other things that women might also do for the war, if not fighting.


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