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Chapter 93 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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Sannom
post Mar 29 2009, 06:12 AM
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but with pride its like.. what the hell are you????


You could say the same thing about the Door or Glutonny though wink.gif Glutonny is a fake door, Pride look like a fake of what's in the door and take the sacrifice for a human transmutation. He is also able to absorb souls, like he did with Glutonny and Kimblee. Given that souls can be considered as just sources of energy, it doesn't seem that much strange.

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Oh, and seriously, no one notices that he never ages?


He never stays out in the human world for a long time, and he is generally covered by the higher up.

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And then come the chimeras... all of which are traitors... just too convenient... how can someone take the 4 least loyal soldiers to a key task in a 400 year old master plan?


They seemed very loyal to me, just before being betrayed by Kimblee (Darius and Heinkel) and knowing for sure that their failure would only bring them death (Gelso and Zanpano) laugh.gif . Survival instinct is pretty strong in animals after all, and they are part animals.

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Then we have Winry escaping from Kimblee (and even before, sending her right into the Elric's hands seems a bit... stupid)... was'nt she supposed to be his hostage? if the Elric did something suspicious, she died. Yet they just ran off, and Kimblee did nothing, and then even Winry just ran off from him somehow to meet Scar...


Putting her in front of the brothers was still the best way to show them that what they were doing was out of what Bradley permitted them to do. Plus Kimblee needed her directly at hand in order to emphasize his orders to Ed.
May I remind you that when they ran off, Winry was already out of Kimblee's reach, because she was in Al's armor? The difficult part after that was to keep her away.

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And again, we have Mustang's men... were'nt they split up to prevent him from taking action? One would guess the army would stop them from defecting and running back to mustang, or at least keep track of them, or something.


I think it would be too suspicious if they put so much importance and threat on four single soldiers.

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And then we have olivier, i know shes tough and all, but come on, wasnt she a hostage too? yet she was able to take down half of central's most secure place with just a sword...


She was a hostage, but the higher up didn't realize that she was a useless hostage, because her men would not stop even if they threatened her. And she didn't take out half of the men in the HQ, Sloth did. Olivia just killed one of the two generals she was with, and used the second one as a hostage.
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post Mar 29 2009, 10:37 AM
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Then we have Winry escaping from Kimblee (and even before, sending her right into the Elric's hands seems a bit... stupid)... was'nt she supposed to be his hostage? if the Elric did something suspicious, she died. Yet they just ran off, and Kimblee did nothing, and then even Winry just ran off from him somehow to meet Scar...


Putting her in front of the brothers was still the best way to show them that what they were doing was out of what Bradley permitted them to do. Plus Kimblee needed her directly at hand in order to emphasize his orders to Ed.

No, keeping Winry in Central, and giving the Brothers some evidence of her new whereabouts was a better way to emphasize the Homunculus' control. No two ways about it: sending Winry to Briggs was a risky plan that failed big time. The only way Bradley can be vindicated of this apparently stupid action is if he is actually planning to double-cross his own team.
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post Mar 29 2009, 10:58 AM
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I don't know... for me, Bradley has to be quiet about the whole thing, and involve people the less possible. Spiriting away Winry from Rush Valey and bring her to Central isn't quiet. If only for the fact that Winry herself would be really suspicious. But in the case we're talking about, they never did anything "wrong" with her : Bradley just warned her that Ed was in the North and could need her help. No order, nothing. Winry would have done it anyway if only she had known where they were in the north.

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No two ways about it: sending Winry to Briggs was a risky plan that failed big time.


How risky was it, given all the unpredictable things that happened and helped the brothers? I mean, Olivia siding with them, Scar siding with them, how the heck were they supposed to guess???
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post Mar 29 2009, 12:39 PM
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I don't know... for me, Bradley has to be quiet about the whole thing, and involve people the less possible. Spiriting away Winry from Rush Valey and bring her to Central isn't quiet. If only for the fact that Winry herself would be really suspicious. But in the case we're talking about, they never did anything "wrong" with her : Bradley just warned her that Ed was in the North and could need her help. No order, nothing. Winry would have done it anyway if only she had known where they were in the north.
"Bradley has to be quiet about the whole thing..." You make it sound as if Central has a majority of upright higher-ups who would ask questions and challenge Bradley. In fact, it's full of corrupt higher-ups who wouldn't care if one simple girl was invited or kidnapped out of Rush Valley as long as it didn't affect the big plan. Who would actually oppose them? Bradley could have lied, telling Winry Edward was in Central. That could have worked too.
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How risky was it, given all the unpredictable things that happened and helped the brothers? I mean, Olivia siding with them, Scar siding with them, how the heck were they supposed to guess???
Let's see: Just two Alchemist brothers. As important Ed and Al are as sacrifices, they were just as important as opponents. Bradley should have predicted the possibility that, with the key to their collars within their grasp, the Brothers Elric will pull something for freedom.
(Then again, maybe Bradley knew just that...)
And that's it for me. Due to Lent, I have limited my Internet activities to just Sunday, so you'll have to wait next Sunday for a comment from me. Ciao!
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QUOTE (Claudius @ Mar 29 2009, 03:39 PM) *
And that's it for me. Due to Lent, I have limited my Internet activities to just Sunday, so you'll have to wait next Sunday for a comment from me. Ciao!



I admire your commitment to sacrifice use of the internet for Lent. That's very commendable. smile.gif


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yeah well for me fma is currently keeping me sane without lego for lent. yes i play with lego. got a problem. well anywayz i guess looking at it. this chapter did kinda suck. well at least kimbley had his neck ripped open. wwwwwwwooooooooooooooooottttttttt


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