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Episode 52: Everyone's Power - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 52 episodes
Chiyo
post Apr 10 2010, 12:11 PM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 3. smile.gif


Please post the discussions on the content of episode 52 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 52 episodes.

Please don't ask for links on where to watch this episode, raw or subbed. Discussions on 'where to watch' belong in Where/How to Watch FMA Series 2. Don't post screencaps unless highlighting something important about the content of the episode. Just like on in most area's of the board, avoid one line posts, spam of any kind or conversations between two members.

Screenshots: please see Omni's Post.

Summary: Using the Philosopher's Stone, Alphonse battles Pride and Kimbley. Kimbley is impressed, but is curious as to why Alphonse hasn't used the stone to retrieve his body. Alphonse claims that the possibility exists to save everyone and regain his body. Kimbley argues that it's possible that neither will occur, and attacks using his own, refined stone. In Central, the Armstrong siblings take on Sloth, who proves to be the fastest of the homunculi. Pride seemingly gains the advantage against Alphonse, but it turns out to be a trap. Heinkel comes from behind Kimbley and bites his neck. Edward, Scar, and the other chimera continue to fight the homunculi army, who try disabling them by taking out their legs. As Pride taunts Alphonse and his group, a car comes out of nowhere and hits him. The car is driven by none other than Yoki, who helps the others escape. Alone with a dying Kimbley, Pride decides to devour him like he did with Gluttony. Back at Central HQ, the troops who corner Olivier are attacked by the homunculi army and she tells them to make a choice between dying or making a stand. Beneath Central, Envy chases Mei. In the room where Ed and the others are, they are beginning to get overwhelmed, but Roy and Riza arrive. Penguintruth, used with permission


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post Apr 11 2010, 01:30 AM
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ok. keyhole lags so many that i want to punch my laptop so much.
seems like a very nice episode to me, better than last time, I think. and WOW olivia looks so sexy!!! OwO envy looks so handsome biggrin.gif wahahaha, and the zombies are just annoying =___=''a.
I cannot see the eyecatches, anybody could post it? ' w '
did they use "RAIN" for middle song?
just cannot wait for 2 episodes ahead, full of royai!!


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post Apr 11 2010, 01:32 AM
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- New music I smell?
- And it starts off with super uber cool Kimblee & Pride vs. Alponse.
- I really like the animation here.
- Pride's trap looks like emmm... oh nevermind.
- Blah blah blah...
- It's the first time I hear Lapis Philosophorum in this arrangement in the anime.
- Yay for Alex & Olivier vs. Sloth! I think it's my favourite battle so far.
- Oh poor Kimblee. In fact, I didn't like him from the very start.
- Cool Heinkel eyecatch. I think he deserves one, after all.
- The "Rain" single commercial. I can't wait to see the PV!
- Oh, and even Alex got one?
- New music?! Hell, it's more than awesome!
- Oh wait, it's Rain actually?!?! Kind of strange they used it as an inner song, but it's really awesome! I want more of these!
- Wow Yoki, that was a good one. And the hero saves the daaay!
- See ya soon, Kimblee.
- Wow, May is a pretty good fighter.
- Oh look, and here comes Mr. Useless.
- Somewhat the ending really didn't fit the scene. I miss Shunkan Sentimental at this point.
- Why the preview was so short? Guess the didn't want to spoil much, but still, it was weird.
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post Apr 11 2010, 01:33 AM
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- We start with the awesome Al fight. Great animation.
- Oh, the talk about the two choices.
- Back to the Armstrongs vs. Sloth fight. And finally he showed his true strength.
- Go Heinkel! And he got a cool eyecatch too.
- The Central meat truck arrived. smile.gif
- Wow, Rain as an insert song! It goes well with the fight scenes.
- Yoki, the hero arrived to save everyone! biggrin.gif
- Goodbye, Kimblee.
- May is still awesome.
- Yay, Roy and Riza are here!
Next 2 eps. will be even more awesome. Can't wait to see them.


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post Apr 11 2010, 01:35 AM
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My initial thoughts:

- All right, go Alphonse!
- The "three choices" speech!
- MANLY action! I'm talking about Olivier here, not Alex.
- Sloth's OHMYGODITSFAST speed!
- That bite to the neck has got to effing hurt.
- And we go back to taking care of those mooks
- No, you cannot use the OP as an insert song in the middle of an episode, Bones. You get the composer to compose BGM.
- Lol, Yoki
- It's a lion, get in the car! Oh, and the lion, too!
- Ah, Kimbley, you will be missed. Well... until...
- Bad, Selim! You've had enough to eat! And you know you'll get a stomach ache!
- What retarded soldiers. "Oh hey, let's point guns at somebody who's been saving us from this monster!"
- Olivier! <3 <3 <3
- I have to say after all that with Olivier, watching Mei fight Envy is kind of... boring.
- Cue Roy to help clear up this mess with the mooks, because Roy is the only alchemist who can actually get anything done in this story... er, until later, when even he can't.

Looks like we'll get Roy Rage next week! Should be fun. Stupid, unnecessary, wasteful, but fun.


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post Apr 11 2010, 01:47 AM
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Can't talk bout nimation quality as of yet but overall I liked this episode.

- All the parts with Kimblee involved were disturbing. He could just be stnding there smiling t Al and I frek out.
- Nice transitions between the figts, all of them.
- Seriously? You get in a room with Olivier, Alex and a giant monster and the first one you notice is Olivier?
- I... am.... the fast....est... homun.... culus... *WHOOOSH*
- Nice use of Rain there, it suprised me but it fit the mood.
- Kimblee and Pride are great team, complementing each other, talking casually.
- And here comes Yoki with his superb driving skills
- And there comes Mustang, hero of Ishbal, burning everyone involved.

Next week's preview looked good and I can't wait to see it.
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post Apr 11 2010, 02:43 AM
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Episode 52 Screenshots and Impressions

QUOTE (penguintruth @ Apr 11 2010, 04:35 AM) *
- No, you cannot use the OP as an insert song in the middle of an episode, Bones. You get the composer to compose BGM.

It was a bit weird to hear it as a battle insert song so soon after it was introduced, but it wasn't that bad...


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post Apr 11 2010, 05:39 AM
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Funny, I've been daydreaming to myself lately about ways that "Ray of Light" could fit as a background song to some emotional part towards the end of the series (I guess the use of "Let It Out" in Episode 27 inspired that thought), when the next thing I know, "Rain" is used in this episode! It surprised me that they would use it as a battle song, but I guess it kind of worked. Too bad the battle mostly had to do with the lame-ish zombies... sleep.gif It was almost a little bit TOO good/emotional a song to use over that particular sequence. I still approve though! ;D It also made me even more anxious to hear the entire song... soon, I hope! O_O

Also, Kimblee's injury hit me MUCH harder here than it did in the manga!!! It was all about the sound effects... his ragged breathing just sounded so horrific and painful! I was cringing with my hands half over my eyes for a solid two minutes afterward... and then seeing Sloth with a column through his head didn't help, lol! Even for a regenerating homunculus, that made me wince.
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post Apr 11 2010, 06:17 AM
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-So this was episode with that special "Sorrowful Stone" track...where exactly was it placed? I guess it was that different arrangement of "Lapis Philosophorum", but I was hoping for something more.
-The art was little off at the beginning, but it was made up for with amazing action scenes (Alphonse can be awesome when he wants to biggrin.gif). I especially loved the sword fight and the ride on rock dragon ;f,
-Nice transition to Armstrongs with here,
-How exactly did Alex make it before Olivier was crushed? And why was she wounded when Alex protected her from Sloth?,
-Soldiers of Central are really dumb.
-Oh, it's full version (at least beginning of it) of the "Rain" song...but why is it placed right here? Come on, they're fighting with some brainless zombies, there is nothing depressing about it. Even Ed cutting their legs isn't sad enough.
-I loved the music except the mentioned moments.
-I've always wondered why Pride did not attack Heinkel who had Kimblee as shield. I guess he was planning to use Kimblee as a source of alchemy skills from the beginning.
-Yay for Yoki for getting his screentime :f,
-Wow. Great voice acting here. It hurts just to hear Kimblee's struggled breathing,
-But I liked "the meal" scene better in manga, though...
-Hm. Some strange moment here. There was an akward pause after one of that soldiers screamed "Mustang" and before the doors opened. It looked almost like the screen froze for a bit,
-And they are just standing and talking while zombies are eating them...
-Mustang rage time \o/ The animation will be great, judging by preview.


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post Apr 11 2010, 12:59 PM
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Didn't think this episode was as good as it could have been.

-Yoki's awesome moment came out pretty well... captured the sense of "I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M DOING THIS!" that the manga had. But then...
-I don't think they did the bit where Kimbley got eaten right. This page http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/93/12/ in animated form would have been excellent... didn't like the blank-faced closeup so much.
-...That song does not match fighting zombies, guys.

Next episode's going to be [i]intense]/i] though... oh man. Hopefully they capture the feel from the manga right.


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post Apr 11 2010, 03:15 PM
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Hot Day'um biggrin.gif

What an episode! So perfect.

Alphonse is such an amazing character. He's a sweet heart, but can be Bad A when he wants to be.

My one complaint with the episode is the lack of gore. (I know how immature that sounds) When Heinkel grabbed Kimblee's throut, it jipped us out. I know they couldn't make it too violent. But I mean...come on. I wanted to watch Kimblee go DOWN.
and the other complaint, as Katya Martin mentioned above me, is the way they animated Pride omnomnom Kimblee. It would have been so pefect and scary if they had done it like the manga panel. They could have done so much with light contrast and creepy-ness. (the scene still had a creepy vibe to it, especially kKimblee struggeling to breathe) It just could have been done better.

So that's the complaints. But the scenes were still pretty well done. They just could have been better.

I actually really liked rain being thrown into it. At first I was like "Hmm....." and by the end it seemed perfect.

Oh and HECK YES MUSTANG TIEM


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I liked the episode. I'm actually glad Kimblee didn't go out with a bang. That's what he would have wanted and after all he did he doesn't deserve to get what he wants. I think that scene played out very closely to the manga and was done well. To me, when I first read this scene in the manga, I was surprised he didn't go out in a bigger way, but then I thought he got what he deserved.

As for the song in the middle of the battle, I thought it was weird.


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post Apr 11 2010, 09:27 PM
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Overall this episode bored me for some reason, and I really REALLY disliked having the OP song inserted into those fight scenes! WTF was that all about??? Eeeehhh....I just wasn't feeling this ep.

Can't wait for the next one! biggrin.gif


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post Apr 11 2010, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE (penguintruth @ Apr 11 2010, 09:35 AM) *
Looks like we'll get Roy Rage next week! Should be fun. Stupid, unnecessary, wasteful, but fun.


Kinda like your posts, then?
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post Apr 11 2010, 11:48 PM
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