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Project Fma, Let your inner writer out.
Aribelle
post Dec 28 2010, 01:59 PM
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Hello everyone, I'm so sorry for disappearing x_x I hadn't realized people were still interested in this!

This is kind of where I am now -

As far as how I'd like to proceed with the project, what I really think would be best would be just for someone or a few people to have access to organizing things other than just myself. My next semester begins again on January 24th, and as I'll be graduating this May I anticipate being really, really busy. I'm currently in nursing school and I have to take two huge tests to graduate and get my RN license, so most of my energy will be go into studying once school starts back up. During that time it would be great to kind of hand things over to someone else while I deal with that.

So, if people would like to take on the role of "submanager" let me know and we can talk about how that's going to work. We also need to contact other members - editors, artists, etc that agreed to contribute and see where they stand and, if they aren't able to continue on, redistribute the workload and/or modify things.

Right now I'm about to run out of the house but please post your ideas and sorry again for being such a flake ><


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post Dec 28 2010, 03:44 PM
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YAY ARIBELLE'S NOT DEAD!! *rejoices* xD And believe me, I understand. College is...bleh. >.< I also think it would be a good idea if we all pitched in with the organizing. Coordinating and juggling all this stuff is an awful lot for one person to take on anyway, let alone college on top of that.

On another note...umm...I was bored with nothing to do yesterday, and I was brainstorming about Project FMA again, and um, well...this is what came out of it.

http://projectfma.weebly.com/index.html

Merry late Christmas, I guess. xD It's still very much a work-in-progress (like everything else, lol), and I haven't finished organizing the forum, and I'm not expecting this to be anything HUGE for a while, but...it's a start, right? At the very least, I'm hoping it'll help fire us up again. biggrin.gif Let me know what you think! And if anyone has any suggestions for making the site better, please let me know! (I've never made a website before and I'm nervous...) >.<


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post Dec 28 2010, 05:40 PM
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Uh... just a note from the board ^^

Thank you, Dearheart for taking the initiative and creating the off-site forum for this project, except, that might create some problem because of this project being on our board and hence certain site policies I'm bound to adhere .... that was part of the discussions Aribelle and I had before this peoject was premiered on our board. But, personally I admire all the work Aribelle put into this project so far and I'd like to support whatever she thinks is the best for the project. smile.gif


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post Dec 28 2010, 05:43 PM
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OH MY GOSH, that website is AMAZING! You did a fantastic job! This definitely gives me some inspiration. /registers

Dearheart I think that needless to say you should definitely be a co-manager, since you've been so enthusiastic and helpful and you got that awesome site up and running. That is, if you want to do it smile.gif

Oh goodness, how to get this thing moving again. Here's what I'd like to do, and please feel free to veto any of this

First thing's first - we need to know who's still on board. PMs are currently being sent to everyone who said they might be interested in contributing or who signed up to do something. I'll give people two weeks to respond (I realize that it's the holidays and people are busy and whatnot but that should be plenty of time), and after that we'll have to just crack down and give up the roles of those who haven't responded.

Along those lines I also think that things definitely need to be more structured and...I hate to say it, but I think we need to have deadlines if we really want to get chapters out. Once we get commitments for the first few volumes (which we theoretically already have, just need to check with people to see if they're still willing to do it) we can come out with a release schedule and a deadline for people to submit their work to be reviewed by an editor.

As for the editors, I really do think that it's important for chapters to be reviewed just to make sure things stick to canon and there are no glaring grammatical/spelling/format errors.

We can also make this bigger - reach out to other communities such as DeviantArt and LiveJournal to recruit artists, writers, and editors.

I really like the forum Dearheart made and I think that it would be a good idea to have that or something similar as a home base where we can have more organized topics and discussions. But, I definitely want this board to be a huge part of the project, since this is where it started and since everyone here has been so supportive. I'm not really sure how this would be achieved, though...

/edit, Tombow posted before I finished my post ^^" but yeah, what he mentioned is what I meant by ^ paragraph. If we start doing a lot of offsite things then there could be some issues. I'd like to come to a happy medium though, if possible, since having everything in one topic might be a little confusing, especially if a lot more people join up.

But let's take this one step at a time and see how many people we even still have on board.

//edit 2: PMs have all been sent out. Within the next 2 weeks we'll know where we stand on members and can go from there.

So, thoughts on all that?


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post Dec 28 2010, 07:52 PM
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Ah, just got the PM from Aribelle, so just here to say: of course I'd be glad to continue working on this project. smile.gif


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post Dec 28 2010, 08:05 PM
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YAY!! I'm so glad you like it, Aribelle!! biggrin.gif

Wow, co-manager...I can't guarantee how long I can commit to that; but for now, I'd love to! I'll do my best to help in any way I can!

And hey, you guys are totally in charge, and whatever you need or want me to do with the site, I'll do it. Nothing over there is set in stone at all, and I'm more than willing to modify it as needed. It's really more for promotion than anything else right now; still in the early, experimental stages. And wherever you want the chapters to be officially posted, that's where I'll link to. I just thought it'd be easier for writers and readers alike to have our own site/forum/home-base-thingy instead of juggling a whole bunch of threads over here. (I'm not saying we should exclude this site by any means; just wanted to try and lighten the load a bit. But again, it's completely up to you guys. I'm even willing to take my site down if it causes too much trouble for you.)

I agree with everything you've suggested, Aribelle; especially the schedule/deadline thing. As much as I hate 'em, they do help to kick lazy butts like mine into gear and hold people accountable. However, I think having some sort of "grace period" would be good, too. Dunno, just thinking out loud here...

My brain just tied itself into a whole bunch of knots. I'll come back once I've untied them all and can think a little more clearly.

Oh yes...got the PM, and I'm definitely still on board for everything. Obviously. tongue.gif


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post Dec 29 2010, 01:10 PM
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Thanks everyone for the replies!! Glad to have people still on board and for those that have to leave, no hard feelings and of course you're welcome back any time.

Right now let's just concentrate on seeing who is still with us. After that we will probably have to do some restructuring, so it would be unwise to plan a lot of things just to find out that we have nowhere near the manpower we did when starting out.

After that, we can discuss the future of this project and the direction we'd like to go in.

While I sincerely appreciate all the efforts that have gone into promoting this project, for now I'll ask everyone to please refrain from linking to or promoting offsite sources. We don't want to anyone to get in trouble!

So let's sit tight and wait to see where we stand! (As a reminder, people have two weeks to respond to their PMs). Again, thank you all for being so patient with me and with this project smile.gif


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post Dec 29 2010, 04:25 PM
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Sitting tight and crossing my fingers! And no worries; I'm keeping quiet about the site until further notice. Only a couple friends and fanartists know about it so far, and I'm only using it to record our progress and organize the forum for now. (It'd be a bit awkward to do all this big, promising, promoting stuff without having anything to promote FOR yet, lol.) xD

No worries, and no rushing. We've got plenty of time to think and plan this out, and every baby step counts. smile.gif

Oh, before I forget...Aribelle, you mentioned "manpower". There's a few really good fanfic authors I'm acquainted with, and I think this is something they might like to be a part of. Would it be alright for me to ask around and see if they're interested and/or willing to commit to the project? Or would it be better to wait on that until things get more organized?


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post Dec 29 2010, 06:55 PM
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It might be better to wait until we have more concrete things to tell people...but thanks for wanting to spread the word, and once we figure everything out I think we'll definitely need to ask all our artistic friends and get all the help we can smile.gif


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post Dec 29 2010, 11:31 PM
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ohmy.gif I thought I posted here...

Anyway, I got the PM, and yes, I'm still incredibly interested in helping out with this project. biggrin.gif
Dearheart, the site you made is just wonderful. I joined the forums there, too.
And as for deadlines; yes. v_v I need a deadline to get my lazy butt into gear.
Basically agreeing with everything everyone before me has said.
*sits tight and keeps fingers crossed*


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post Jan 12 2011, 01:10 PM
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All right everyone, the two weeks have come and gone. I updated our list and removed the names of people that either told me they couldn't continue with us or that didn't respond at all.

As you can see, our numbers are now quite few.

So, let's take this one step at a time. The first issue up for discussion is whether or not we want to remain at this forum or move to the one Dearheart set up.

Should we decide to move, here is an offer Tombow suggested to me for how it would work:

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For example, how about .....we give it a month of "moving period" and say, at the end of January we'll close down the project threads here??

If we do this way, during this transition period you guys can contact the operation participants through our PM, or our "email through board" system, and "notice" on the project threads to inform the participants of the project's new home.

But, one thing I have to ask you guys for during this period, and in the future also, (as you know) is to refrain from conducting any recruiting activities for the new participants for the project, and advertisements of the project site. Yeah, sorry! sad.gif
For example, you can post "notice" of moving and the address of the new site on the Project FMA threads, but please refrain from posting comments such as "Oh BTW, the Project FMA is moving to a new site!! Hope you guys can visit us at ....." etc. on other threads in the forums, or sending PM messages to prospect members (who are not current Project participants) asking them to join the project or visit the new site, etc.


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post Jan 13 2011, 04:45 PM
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I'm not going to say anything one way or another on whether or not we should move. Arguing for or against the new website/forum feels too weird to me. xD

However, I will say that IF you guys decide to move over to the new place, I like Tombow's suggestion. A "moving month" sounds like a good idea to me, and it would give people plenty of time and warning. And I agree with holding back on the advertising for a bit longer.

I am curious, though...when will we start recruiting new members? I'm not feeling impatient at all (on the contrary, I think it's good we're taking time to plan everything out and get organized); like I said, I'm just curious. (Sorry if it's a stupid question...)


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post Jan 14 2011, 12:14 PM
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I think most people wouldn't have too much trouble operating on this project with or without the move, so long as everyone is properly informed on what is going on. I know I wouldn't have a problem working here or another site. Either way, I look forward to starting this again.


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post Jan 14 2011, 12:51 PM
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Just logged in for the first time in a month.....I only just noticed the PM, Aribelle! Sorry it's taken me so long, but I just wanted to pop in and say I would love to get involved in the project again. :-)

Also, I looked at the site for P:FMA (it looks great, btw) and I just wanted to tell you all that we have at least 4-5 covers that are done or nearly done, so if I am able to touch base with the other artists, I will finish the ones we have and make them available to post. I recently finished taking my finals (as in my last two finals were yesterday lmao!) so I should have a little more time to write and etc.

edit: just noticed Tombow's message so yeah, the second part is irrelevent for now lol


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post Jan 14 2011, 02:57 PM
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Okay, great! Glad to still have you have with us ^^

@Dearheart, the first thing we need to do is decide whether to stay here or not. After that, I would like to re-work the framework for the way this project is set up (there are some changes I'd like to make that I think would prevent us from getting bogged down like we did last time). Once that's all settled I think then it would be appropriate to start recruiting new members.

So, yeah, we must come to a decision about our future home. Let me list some pros and cons of each:

Staying on this board:

pros
-familiarity of staff and members
-access to a large FMA fanbase and FMA resources

cons:
-less organization in terms of managing threads
-less flexibility if we want to make changes with the structure of the project

Moving to the newly created forum

pros:
-more organization in terms of managing threads and implementing changes to the project
-more space to work around in and complete control over rules/etc

cons:
-we would no longer be able to do anything for the project based out of this site. Read my previous post for more details.
-we wouldn't have the advantage of being in an FMA environment.

Personally, I feel that a space just for this project would make things much easier in terms of organization (and it might be easier on the staff here as well).

Please let me know what you think! We can't move on until we've decided this. I don't want to run the risk of getting ahead of ourselves like we did before (which is one of the reasons I think this came to a halt) so I'm reeeally taking things one step at a time lol.


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