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Chapter 54 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Nov 28 2005, 06:22 PM
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First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 54 here. smile.gif



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Now that our heroes are face to face with Father we all can't wait to see what happens next. A battle against him is bound to be onesided. Ed and Ling are in pretty bad shape, Al is still missing a hand, and I get the impression that Father is an *insanely* powerful alchemist, and on his home turf and with two of his lackeys at his side. Yikes.

So this would be a great time for Mei Chan and Scar to show up. Under the circumstances a truce would have to be made. They may be able to provide some back up and even fix Ed and Ling's injuries. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens when Mei Chan finally meets the Elrics, and the inevitable conflict that will come up between her and Ling.

Will Father pull a James Bond villain monolgue and explain his backstory and evil plot? Is he really Hohenheim/an evil twin/a clone from another dimension? And what is Wrath planning to do with Roy? Thirteen days left!


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post Nov 28 2005, 06:51 PM
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i think hoho/"father" are the same person with split personality disorder. remember during the chat pride and wrath had, pride said something like "there was nobody to stop our plans, except father". that could mean that "father" and hoho are 2 different entities trying to control the same body.......

ok im gonna go back to my shroom patch now, and if in 13 days my theory is proven correct, ill invite you all to a christmas shroom party


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post Nov 28 2005, 07:26 PM
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O_O....I can't wait!!! I want to know...hehe happy.gif


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post Nov 28 2005, 07:27 PM
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And what if we're not Christian/Catholic?

You gonna leave us on the streets... or something?

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post Nov 28 2005, 09:31 PM
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More fighting? Come on. Isn't it time for a kinder, gentler FMA?

*Killed by Scar.*

Scar and Mai should be showing up any time now. Hopefully, Pride and Kimbley will also make an appearance.

If it comes to a duel to the death, Scar should take on Envy. I mean, Envy did started the Ishbal war, thus slaughtering his people.

I don't think hohenheim is the Father; none of Hoho's kindness is present in him. I'm sticking by the clone/twin theory.


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post Nov 28 2005, 11:19 PM
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i also agree. Hoho-papa and Father arn't the same.

i am actually hoping for a 3-way Battle:
Envy + Gluttony + Father V.s. Ed + Al + Ling V.s. Scar (protecting Mei) or they may just exclude Scar and he can watch XD!!! either way it'll be an epic battle guarenteed to leave someone dead... happy.gif and maybe even Mei will find out that Edo is the guy she has been dreaming of XD!!!


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post Nov 28 2005, 11:43 PM
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Umm, we'll probably get a glimpse of who the hell Father is. But if Father is smart he won;t say much baout his intentions to the Human Sacrifices. Scar and Mei should come in as well and we will finally know what is it that Mei fears about Amestris. I suspect it was Father... but WHY? Because he's immortal? Not human? Evil?
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post Nov 28 2005, 11:49 PM
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I am not gonna guess anything so that it will be a definately surprise for me... (more over, I have my Statistics Exam on the same day as next chapter's release... I should really study instead of playing guess and check here X_O)

one thing I am guessing is that human!Al won't appear in chapter 54 xD;; (if he really does I would be jumping in joy ♥)


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there's tons of stuff i wanna know...

1) who the heck is "father"...and what's up with the wired chair...and why does he look like hoho-papa?!
2) roy and riza will be separated...what's gonna happen to them?
3) what will happen to roy? (I MUST KNOW!!!)

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4) where the heck did hohenheim go after he left risenbul?
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Does anyone else get the sneaky suspicion that Mei Chan is Ling's half sister? Remember that whole schpeal about finding immortality for the emperor and the different representatives from each of the different clans of Xing being the child of the emperor and a woman from each of the clans? Anyway, if I go by my wack theory, I don't think Mei Chan will be too willing to help Ling, as they are both trying to find the same thing, the failure of which means the end of their clan.

Anyway, sorry if this theory has been brought up/disproved. tongue.gif


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Hmm, Mei Chan's clan is one of the lowest in teh Country. If we follow Ling's information, technicallysomeone from Mei Chan's clan should be one of the Emperor's wives. However I don;t think that woman is Mei Chan's mother...

And they search for immortality for completely different reasons anyway happy.gif
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post Nov 30 2005, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(kaizenyorii @ Nov 28 2005, 08:36 PM) [snapback]321242[/snapback]

i think hoho/"father" are the same person with split personality disorder. remember during the chat pride and wrath had, pride said something like "there was nobody to stop our plans, except father". that could mean that "father" and hoho are 2 different entities trying to control the same body.......



I am still thinking this too. I think he's an alchemy experiment gone horribly wrong. I guess I'll find out soon enough.


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Is it wrong for me to say that the scene I can't wait for is for Mei to realize who Edward Elric really is laugh.gif

Of course I am also dying for this mystery regarding Father to finally be solved so I can finally sleep well at night tongue.gif
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actually.. if you look back on the other chapters recently they have been switching between the Edo/Aru Story line and the Roy/Riza story line... so my guess for this chapter is they are gonna reveal a bit about Father and then its gonna get back to Roy who is in King Bradley "clutches" so to speak XD!!! i cant wait to see what happens to them happy.gif YAY NESS!!!


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Already a chap 54 thread?? happy.gif
Time flies fast.

THE NEXT CHAPTER WILL FINALLY REVEAL 'FATHERS' TRUE IDENTITY!! (and PLEASE on what will happen to our Roy)


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