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Do You Hate What Bones Did To Fma(manga) By Making Fma Anime (first Series)? Spoiler Warning For All Fma Series!, Did BONES ruin FMA by making FMA Anime (first series) the way it is??
Do you hate what BONES did to FMA?
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Keos
post Jul 31 2005, 03:19 AM
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Hahaha... I love Moo-san. Maybe in the next issue we'll get to see her reaction to the movie ending (hehe...).

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post Jul 31 2005, 11:25 AM
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unfortunitely that the way it goes in many shows/movies. the original creator rarely has a say in what happens and flakey tv people decide the fate of the characters.

the only redeeming value is she will always be in charge of the manga...


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post Jul 31 2005, 03:51 PM
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I don't see her very happy, she says "I'm not selling it, you will", and then she adds "so there was no discussion"


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post Jul 31 2005, 05:41 PM
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I don't understand...what did they do?


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post Jul 31 2005, 09:21 PM
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I don't really get it either, but crap that sucks.

*points to my avatar* THAT is how I feel about BONES right now! >_> Don't HATE 'em, but I'm not liking 'em that much either. GAH.


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post Aug 1 2005, 12:13 AM
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ok, I'll give you the preview of the mistakes I'll be writing here when i finish, I decided to inform you of all of them, or at least which I find. For example:

Episode 2:
1)Why did Cornero’s arm start being transmutated to some metal things and cables? Note: In the manga it happens because the philosophers stone is overloaded and when he starts to transmutate a weapon the weapon starts being mixed with his arm and that’s why there are so many cables and metal things. But in the anime?

2)Why is Envy, being an homunculus, able to make alchemy when he resurrects the birds? If it's not alchemy, what is it???


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post Aug 1 2005, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(Reika @ Aug 1 2005, 02:13 AM)
1)Why did Cornero’s arm start being transmutated to some metal things and cables? Note: In the manga it happens because the philosophers stone is overloaded and when he starts to transmutate a weapon the weapon starts being mixed with his arm and that’s why there are so many cables and metal things. But in the anime?

2)Why is Envy, being an homunculus, able to make alchemy when he resurrects the birds? If it's not alchemy, what is it???
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those are some good points, reika. infact both of those points have bothered me too. and why do the birds suddenly disappear in the air.

it seems bones took the parts of the story they liked and put them in the anime and filled in the rest with their own ideas.

i was surprised when i first read the manga and saw how much better they explained the whole arm thing (up until then i was sorely confused).


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post Aug 1 2005, 12:37 AM
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Oh for the love of God. This is what we call nitpicking.


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post Aug 1 2005, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE
those are some good points, reika.  infact both of those points have bothered me too.  and why do the birds suddenly disappear in the air.

it seems bones took the parts of the story they liked and put them in the anime and filled in the rest with their own ideas.

i was surprised when i first read the manga and saw how much better they explained the whole arm thing (up until then i was sorely confused).
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Thanks, when I read the movie summary I was so frustrated that I decided to look for all the mistakes they made. I can't finish it right now because a friend of mine came to pay a visit from far away so I'm a little busy. But I'll publish them here when I finish because there's very much people that doesn't even know there are such mistakes and WORSE >.<

Yeah, the birds thingy bothered me too, specially after knowing envy was a homunculus and they can't use alchemy. :s incredible, and that was in ep 2. You gotta see ep 50-51, in the last episodes there are at least 10 mistakes in a raw.


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post Aug 1 2005, 12:49 AM
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I still don't know what Bones did that was so sacreligous. I've read both and I don't have a problem with either. Though the anime is a lot darker at times.


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post Aug 1 2005, 01:55 AM
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Personally, there are too much things I find disturbing and makes the anime really crappy. I find it ok if they want to change some things, or whatever, but if they are going to change it, at least, they should change it right, making sense, and explaining whatever they change, add etc.


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post Aug 1 2005, 04:41 AM
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QUOTE("TheVileOne")
I still don't know what Bones did that was so sacreligous. I've read both and I don't have a problem with either. Though the anime is a lot darker at times.


As I have said before, due to the anime being a "second-hand narration", BONES (anyone really) can make those mistakes, and it's understandable that they did not bother to think thoroughly on what they're doing. Actually, I didn't do that either since I was too focused on the main story. Manga-kas may make their own mistakes too, but generally no one will complain about them as they're fewer and the manga is the original thing.

However, although I am not so concerned with little details like those, they can stand out like a sore thumb once someone mentions them (^ ^). What bugs me, of course, is the lack of appearance of Winry - Winry was relegated to the role of the typical woman waiting for her man to come back (always worrying or looking like she's about to cry in a while - mmm actually, that has been happening with the manga as well, though. *sigh* Manga probably has time to improve though). Also, I've mentioned that Ed seemed eternally depressed during the latter half of the anime and his self-isolation from almost everyone becomes more pronounced. That was one bugger as he never seemed to have gotten out of that isolation... not sure about the movie, though.
What I do know is that the movie ended in a half-hearted way. The world is not perfect, but who says the animated world can't at least strive to be? With all those supernatural elements flying left and right, the producers could have made the ending different, but they chose not to.

And please don't tell me that I shouldn't judge when I have not seen the film. I am not judging the execution of the events in the film (I cannot do that until I have seen the film), but rather, I am judging the events, themselves, which I am sure is pretty accurate thanks to the movie summary provided graciously by Sycia.


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post Aug 1 2005, 11:00 AM
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There's A LOT of things in the anime that don't make sense. (But, I'm not THAT crazy to actually pick out every one.) ^^; Oh, I give up. The manga's better, and everyone that luvs FMA SHOULD read the manga... Do you have any idea HOW MANY PEEPS REFUSE TO READ THE MANGA JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE SEEN THE ANIME?! >_> Gah! What's wrong with otaku these days...?!

Keos: *claps* I agree. We should be allowed to share our opinions regardless if we've seen the movie or not. (We're STILL gonna see the movie anyway, so I don't know what everyone's complaining about.)


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post Aug 1 2005, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE
But, I'm not THAT crazy to actually pick out every one


Am I crazy?????? T^T


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post Aug 1 2005, 05:16 PM
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Of course not smile.gif You're just enthusiastic - and that enthusiasm stems from your bitterness towards what BONES did in the film (would it have been better if they ended better?).


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