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Hawkeye X Roy: The Royai Thread, For Roy, Riza, and Royai fans, and more!!
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post Apr 27 2010, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (FailToImpress @ Apr 27 2010, 11:20 AM) *
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Probably wouldn't sleep with her either. He's not like that.


What man isn't like that? ohmy.gif lol I refuse to believe that he's not interested in sleeping with any of the women he might go on dates with. Men and their needs, right? I'm not saying he'd sleep with any woman, but honestly, if he can get it he'll take it and still be a gentleman about it.


I'm not saying he's innocent. We can't judge that because we don't know these things. But in any case, he certainly can't do it now. He has no time for that. I'd go with angelofsarcasm89's logic, that some men really aren't like that and don't like one-night-stands.

Okay, jeez I am so done with these strange topics! lol! I can't take it anymore!


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post Apr 27 2010, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Apr 27 2010, 01:08 PM) *
Err.. well here's a bit of feminine advice (lol anime1 reference), women don't/can't wear a bra with every top they wear.. On some tops you'd be able to see the bra straps, which is not good. But yeah, I'd like to avoid that conversation, since I think you guys have already discussed it plenty! lol!

As for dating... hmm... Roy I could see going out with a woman every once in a while, but nothing major. Probably wouldn't sleep with her either. He's not like that. Riza is more reserved and way too dedicated to Roy's goal to think about herself and dating other men. She hasn't even unpacked her belongings in her apartment, so how would she have time to date? I'd like to think that she at least went out and enjoyed herself sometimes, but I honestly don't think it would happen very often.


Well, that depends, that's what strapless bras' are for! And, depending on the top, it's actually nice to show off the bra straps (of course, than it has to be a really good looking bra, but still...)


QUOTE (ramencat @ Apr 27 2010, 03:06 PM) *
This conversation... I don't even know where to start. Not much I can say about bras, exept that I would... aprecciate... it if Riza didn't wear one *gets shot*. And honestly, I dought Roy sleeps around, he has discipline... probably. Also, this is a shonen manga; sex doesn't exist, remember? tongue.gif


Well, theoretically, yes, but I have NO idea how the hell RinMei from Hero Tales (another shounen manga from Arakawa) would end up pregnant, then. lol
And let's not forget, for example, the Dragon Ball manga... XD


And, really, I don'y know about other people, but, in my circle of friends, sleeping with someone is not something you do as if you were 'changing clothes'. Even the men, who would rhetorically be more outgoing in that sense, they just don't go dating and sleeping around with someone they just met.
So, in summon: real life is not like Sitcoms or movies. And it's not THAT easy to get laid. And to do it just 'out of need' is something that may be quite common, but it's not 'well seen' by most. Taking more into account that Roy was raised by Madame Christmas and got to learn to respect women, I trully doubt he would go around doing things like that.

It doesn't mean at all that either Roy or even Riza may be virgins, but there's a BIG difference between that and being a womanizer.

Of course, there's always the exceptions, but, being 'righteous people' as they are, I don't think they would go for it.

So, the way I see it, they're regular people in that sense, like most people their age are: having occasional dates and, some of them, may turn out serious, but it's far from having a date every week with a different woman.


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post Apr 27 2010, 07:49 PM
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Well said, Turdaewen. Well said, indeed! *nods*

I can actually totally see Madam Christmas looming over Roy, going "I hear one breath of scandal, and there will be consequences."

In any case, I don't know (nor do I really mind) if only one or even neither is a virgin, but I don't believe that Roy would actually sleep around just to save face--he's too upstanding for that.


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post Apr 27 2010, 08:15 PM
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Chris would also tell Roy not to make her into a grandmother too soon...

Cute song for RoyAi: You're Still the One by Shania Twain (an older song, but I haven't regularly listened to her music for about 10+ years)

A little mushy, but some of the lyrics could also fit their goals which is what brought them together.

Agreeing with Turdaewen about Movies and T.V.(Media) portraying the number of people who sleep around incorrectly.



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post Apr 27 2010, 09:06 PM
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Especially regarding they're not the easiest people to 'let someone in', since they're both military and war veterans on top of that. It's probably a lot harder for them to actually let someone into their intimacy than most people.


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post Apr 28 2010, 02:49 AM
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Um... I just skimmed through the last couple of pages, figured I'd update myself, haven't visited the thread for a while. And, well, err... lol tongue.gif Entertaining discussions XD

QUOTE (FailToImpress @ Apr 27 2010, 11:20 AM) *
What man isn't like that? ohmy.gif


XD

QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Apr 28 2010, 03:46 AM) *
I'd go with angelofsarcasm89's logic, that some men really aren't like that and don't like one-night-stands.


Thank you, for acknowledging that, haha. I'm sure there are plenty of guys like that happy.gif I was loling over how some of you - especially as women, too - were putting all men in the same category and just assume all of them (er, us) are horndogs XD I mean generally I would agree, but obviously there a exceptions, and probably more than you'd think.

Now what was that about jiggling?? biggrin.gif


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post Apr 28 2010, 02:59 AM
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QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Apr 28 2010, 04:15 AM) *
Chris would also tell Roy not to make her into a grandmother too soon...


Yeah, I'm sure Roy's very sensible anyway...
Do I think either is a virgin? Riza maybe, and and that's a small maybe, but not Roy.

Anyway, they're fictional characters, it doesn't really matter.

Broken Chouchou: lol. I couldn't help myself. ...I was just joking... or am I? biggrin.gif Obviously there's exceptions, I totally understand that. I wasn't saying that Roy had ons's left, right and centre, you can go out with many people and sleep with them, and yes, still be decent about it. I think Roy is more than capable of pulling that off.
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Roy, I doubt it, even if he and Riza haven't slept together. I'm not sure how old he was when he started studying under Hawkeye-sensei, so he could have had some girlfriends before he even met Riza, or while he was in basic training before he realized that he's totally in love with his teacher's daughter.
Riza, I'd say Roy would be the the only one for her. It seems like she doesn't get superclose to people like that, plus the whole thing with her tattoo and having to explain all of that. The fact that anyone smart enough to date her would be able to put two and two together and figure out "Flame alchemy tattoo on her back...works under the Flame Alchemist...Oh, Roy Mustang the gorgeous playboy has seen her topless..." which is probably a bit of a mood killer.


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post Apr 28 2010, 04:09 AM
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I highly doubt Riza could get intimate with anyone until she spent some time in Eastern Headquarters.

First, she was probably brought uo to be shy and even subconsciously she must have avoided situations where her tatto could be seen. And once her tattoo stopped being a potential threat to society (and Roy as well) she had to find a way to cope with her post war trauma.

Which reminds me how much work Hughes had to put into his relationship with Gracia after he got back from Ishbal. There was constant exchange of letters and he intended to marry her yet it must have been tough to come back from war and act all cheerful.
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Well, I don't think that Riza "date" so much she is more concentrate in her work and in helping Roy to achieve his goal. And she is a person that put her wellbeing under the others so I think that she didn't care to have a "boyfriend" She only have eyes for Roy In all senses.

About Roy...Im happy to belive that he only have a few dates and just spread the word of Im the best. I belive that most of his dates could be informants at least after Maes death. But the thing is that he is gentelman for being a womanizer. It's confusing.

About Roy's reaction (or lack of) when she shows the tatto...well first I think he didn't expect her to undress so that could be shocking I can imagine hey Roy come here im goign to show secrets he goes happy to the room and she starts to undress and he what????? So...or he is socked for her undressing or just because the tatto is in her back.

I notice that the intense of flirting and more feeling things between Roy and Riza grows more and more just hope it's going more and more up x)

Well Another thing. Kale reminded me that I had two doujins to show that I bought I think a month ago. So I left a pic for sharing smile.gif



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post Apr 28 2010, 07:04 AM
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Really, people: there're no rules for that sort of thing!

For example, my current boyfriend didn't have a single date for over 5 years before we got together. And it wasn't like "he couldn't have it, if he wanted", he just didn't wanted! And I know he's telling the truth, cause we've been friends forever before we hook up. He just was tired of meaningless relationships, so he didn't want anything to do with something he knew wasn't going nowhere.

And we may thing that that's an exception, and it really is, but it's not as uncommon as most people think. I know other people who do similar things. So not necessarily it's like "Roy's a nice looking guy who likes girls, so he definitely have had some." Moreover, we were not discussing if he had EVER a date or a girl, because not having ever is highly improbable, but whether he 'sleeps around' or not. Which I think he probably doesn't.


And Brocken Chouchou is right: not every man is horndog. In fact, most of them aren't.
And those who are, usually don't get many women, because, generally, women don't like that. I know there's people who really 'don't care', but it's not the majority.


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post Apr 28 2010, 07:17 AM
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Tian Ai: I found the guide at the Kinokuniya bookstore in San Fransisco. It's a Japanese bookstore that mostly deals in imports. I think there's one in New York too. You could probably find it online too, but I haven't looked. I don' have a scanner so I can't upload pages. Urg.

And I am very happy someone is standing up for guys. Being male on this thread can be scary...
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QUOTE (ramencat @ Apr 28 2010, 11:17 AM) *
And I am very happy someone is standing up for guys. Being male on this thread can be scary...

Yeah, I've been around guys most of my life, being such a nerd and all. XD
Most my friends are men. You could say I've been a tomboy throughout my teen years. Sometimes my boyfriend gets scared as to how many men I actually know. lol (of course, all of them are trekkers, or RPG players or computer geeks)

And, since I'm no longer a teenager (I'm actually closer to the 30's than teens, now), this whole "men are the enemy' makes no sense. XD Just as well as stereotypes like 'womanizers'. But then, again, some people really tend to follow stereotypes even after adulthood, which is kinda sad, actually.

But I don't think that's Roy's case. We tend to 'change our way of thinking' once we get to see certain things happening to our lives... Once you leave school/college, starts working, and your friends and colleagues start getting sick, having cancer, getting married and having kids (last week, for example, I've found out that a former 'sweetheart' of mine has a muscular degenerative desease and can't even leave his house), well, lets just say that, usually, when you reach your 30's, 'going out' and 'having sex' is usually not something that occupies your mind as often. We get a sharp reality check that we won't be 'young' forever... but that's something it's hard to tell: you can only fully understand it once you live it.

My friends are all in Riza's/Roy's age (hell, I'm almost there!), now and, among them, people who still act like "college students" are the ones considered "didn't grow up".

And for someone who's so serious about other things as Roy is, it would be weird if he really did 'spend his precious time' fooling around;
When we see him 'being him' and not 'acting up', he's usually worrying about Edward, about his subordinates, trying to figure out who killed Hughes... He's a 30 year old Colonel. To get to that, he cannot be TRULLY lazy or womanizer, of he wouldn't get so far! 'Getting to the top' is hard work and, if Roy really sees that as his 'goal', he would be distracted about other stuff. Specially in the military.

So, yes, I really do think he's acting up on that. Not because I think 'he's loyal to Riza' or because I have a wishful thinking that they'll be together and it would be nice if both of them 'saved for eachother'. But because life as adults so committed to an end like they are don't really have time or spirit to fool around. That's just Arakawa's comic relief.


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QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Apr 28 2010, 03:04 PM) *
And Brocken Chouchou is right: not every man is horndog. In fact, most of them aren't.
And those who are, usually don't get many women, because, generally, women don't like that. I know there's people who really 'don't care', but it's not the majority.


Oh yeah totally. If I'm being serious about it then I'd say the same, I was mostly just playing up to the stereotype before. laugh.gif
The majority of men I know who are in their 20s don't sleep around that much and have proper relationships, although there are a couple who still like to 'play the field'.
However that's a different topic.


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I'll toss in my apology, too: Sorry if I sounded anti-guy at any point. Most guys I know really are fine, upstanding gentlemen who do look for serious relationships. (The University I currently attend is gigantic, so I've seen the best and the worst of them side-by-side.) I think some girls are actually worse about that sort of thing, but the point is both genders have their share of bad and good. But mostly good, I'd like to think.

I guess that one little "missing" (we really don't know, do we?) undergarment turned out to be more trouble than anyone bargained for!

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