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Episode 15: Envoy From The East - Content Discussion Thread, Caution! Spoilers for the first 15 episodes!
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post Jul 13 2009, 11:19 PM
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Own, the brazilian version episode is online,
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post Jul 14 2009, 05:52 AM
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QUOTE (Jen_Elric @ Jul 12 2009, 01:21 PM) *
After seeing the screenshots, I'm a little surprised that the OP shows Gluttony in his true form. People might think it's just another homunculus, instead of him, but still. It's a spoiler. lol

@Jen_Elric - I moved your post to FMA: Brotherhood OP discussion thread. Please continue the discussions for FMA: Brotherhood OP there. smile.gif

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post Jul 14 2009, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (Tombow @ Jul 14 2009, 02:52 PM) *
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@Serb Alchemist - Welcome to the board!! biggrin.gif
Just to be safe, I edited out the link addresses. ...Sorry. Hope you don't mind.
Though, sharing that info privately would be fine, IMO. ^^



Thanks!!! biggrin.gif
It's OK!! wink.gif No need to be sorry about anything!!!
If anyone want's download link, he can send me PM, and I will send download link to him wink.gif

And here is another one, still no [eclipse], but TMD-ASU are more then good...

<PM me and ask me for the address for this Torrent download of [TMD-ASU] Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood - 15 [H264-720p][7C4CFF8D] mkv>

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post Jul 14 2009, 08:33 AM
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Yay! I watched the subbed version on streaming. The subs sucked a little bit, but it's still ok.

First, the new opening is cool, nothing to say about it. The new ending is very simple but still nice.

I don't like very much how they managed the "Roy and co find Barry" stuff. It was hilarious in the manga to see Barry in love. Maybe they should have gave more time to that.
The fight Scar VS Silver Alchemist was amazing; the Mai Chang part, too, but the manga version (with Mai that comes to the mine and save the children's father) was very cool, I hoped they would make it. Oh oh, maybe that part will be an omake on a DVD! It's just an hypothesis but it would be cool.

The part in Rush Valley was well-made; the fight, most of all, is really great.

In the end, a very good episode I say.

Now I'm waiting for the next one... I think we'll have Ed, Al and Winry discovering of Hughes' death, and maybe the Maria Ross' arrest
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post Jul 14 2009, 08:48 AM
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Okay just watched a badly subbed version of this (PM me if you want to know the address) and while the translations were pretty poor, it at least allowed me to get through the episode and actually understand what was going on.

First off, not actually that surprised that they cut May Chang in Youswell. Indeed I was curious how on earth they were gonna explain Youswell seeings as they reduced that entire story to a single line mentioned by Yoki. Not at all bothered to see Youswell go either, it's not important and the way they introduced May Chang this time around worked just as well. Bit dissapointed they took out Yoki bowing and pleading forgiveness from Xaoi Mei but ah well.

The only downside I can see to remvoing the Youswell bit of the story is that we don't get to see that Renjenjustu is long ranged as well as short ranged. I will also give BONES credit for working things around to give an excuse for her to use it (Scar indeed got cut on the leg when he fought the Silver Alchemist in the manga)

The Hawkeye and Barry bit, despite having the Mustang threatening to burn Barry removed, was still highly entertaining. I also felt that Hayate's introduction here worked pretty well. As much as I do enjoy his introduction omake, I dont think we need to see it animated again. Bit sad they cut out the bit where Falman gets 'volunteered' to look after Barry, but I suspect that some of that's coming up next week.

Happy to see Lin and his bodyguard, and I actually really, really like Lin's voice. It's about as close to how I imagined him speaking as you could get. He also made me laugh quite a bit during the episode, an impressive feat considering I knew half of his jokes were coming. Fuu and Lanfan were cool as well, as was the animation during the fighting sequences. Again, not surprised that they incorperated some of the dialogue that originally took place on the train into this episode, it made sense and was unobtrusive.

What does surprise me slightly is how Lin throws all his cards on the table here by telling Ed and Al pretty much everything about him. I guess they've done that to save time later on and explain his motivations better. Just a shame that in doing so they've removed Lin flirting with Winry.

Overall, a good episode, I enjoyed it. Next weeks looks very... interesting. The preview shots were very unhelpful but I'm guessing their trying to keep what's coming a surprise.


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post Jul 14 2009, 09:22 AM
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First up, I have to say.. AWESOME opening. And ending. biggrin.gif it was such a neat surprise when I got back home yesterday and looked for the new episode.

This episode was great! I love how they keep some of the manga panels here. The scene when Ed and Al went to see Winry was hilarious.

So is the part scene Ed discovers that Al can transmute without a circle, too. I seriously laughed out loud on that part. 8'D

The fighting scenes were neat, Ling and his bodyguards + May turned out great as animated. I'm happy that we're finally getting to the manga-only plot, and can't wait to see more! The next episode surely is going to be interesting. (;_;)
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QUOTE (Trakonda @ Jul 14 2009, 12:22 PM) *
The scene when Ed and Al went to see Winry was hilarious.

lol, agree


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post Jul 14 2009, 11:57 AM
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Ahhhh!!! I LOVE Ling's voice! They picked a perfect VA for him and I LOVE RanFan! I loved seeing her animated. She's such a cutie. The whole episode was really well done except there are some scenes I'm disappointed that they kept out like the Royai scene where Roy gets all protective of Riza and the whole Barry the Chopper being in love with Riza. I'm also bummed they kept out the scene where Ling flirts with Winry, but who knows. Maybe they'll have it at the beginning of next week's episode. Anyway, this was great. biggrin.gif I also enjoyed the new OP/ED, but most of all I'm so excited about the Xing characters showing up now and it's getting into JUST the manga side of the story. Yay!


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this episode begins with silver alchemist.I wish they atleast put a caption as to mention who is he.the fight is still very fine.music is good
forMei Chan-her voice is too ..childish..she sounds a lot like yachiru from bleach (or almost the same)i expect her to be a bit more mature...despite of this i think she gave a good performance.
i am dissapointed that they did not show the scenes on how yoki mets mei chan(ie move youswell scene to yoki)
For Prince Edward Elric gag -i think some parts of drawing are a bit off...still it's good that they include in handsome prince edward XD
For the Xing people,i think ling yao seiyuu,miyano's performance is AMAZING.For Ran Fun,despite only a few lines,she did an excellent job.Fu 's seiyuu is good too.
music:i think ran fun vs edward music is a bit off here.i would prefer it if they put in chinese music,or some other music than this part.i think this music is heard at the almost end scene in ep10.it fits well there,but not here.
overall it's quite a light episode depite the beginning.for preview parts,i understand why they did not include exciting scenes,but it's good if they can let in one or too that might serve as a cliffhanger thingy.


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After a longer than usual wait for subs, I'm very happy to have at last seen this episode subbed! Even though the subs were badly done. Most of the time, it was a bit hard to understand. But I still liked it!

The Silver Alchemist vs. Scar fight was short and sweet. The old guy had the same fighting style as in the manga.
Mei just showing up was a tad strange, but I was ok with it. I'm not much of a fan of the youswell arc anyways. Her voice fit her well! Not too squeeky. It wasn't annoying, in fact it was cute! Loved how Xiao Mei bit Yoki. lol
Ahh, the Ed fantasy. Mei has such a wild imagination. lmao
Yay, more Barry! I loved how they kept in that he falls for Riza! But I was disappointed that there was no Jealous Roy scene.
Ling!!! Finally! Loved his voice, it was perfect! and the fight with Fuu and Ranfan was awesome! I actually had to rewind to see Al perform Alchemy by clapping his hands. I had thought it was Ed, but realized it was Al!
The OP and ED was nice, especially the OP with the foreshadowing.
Great episode, and I can't wait to see it again from Funi (especially since the subs will be better)!


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Awful subtitles (fansub.) Man alive.

Anyway, the episode once again did nothing for me. :\
And I'm not sure about how certain scenes were handled, nor the ordering. Plus, I really liked Ling in the manga and wanted to punch him the entire time here.

I dunno. I'd have more thoughts when I reread the manga versions.

(didn't care for the new opening/ending at all either. Not much positivity.)

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Read the manga version. How is that every single scene flows better, has more, better and funnier dialogue?
Got a lot more detail and characterisation across in the military with Barry bit and made Ling a little bit more likable. (but not as much as I expected)

I mean it seems like they got the fight scenes almost right, but they still managed to make bits of them a bit weird. (like how Ed flips Ran Fan and how she recovers. Or Ed's flashback on how he did capture her)

And the Mei Chan changes are just...Weird.


OT: By the way, this "rentanjutsu"? What's the official translation there in FMA manga? Just Xingese alchemy or...?
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QUOTE (kitsunepixie @ Jul 15 2009, 04:14 PM) *
I regretted the absence of Winry chasing Ed on the beach with a chainsaw, but hopefully they’ll use it later in another episode. In fact, I’m holding on to the hope that they’re saving a lot of the gags and character development scenes that we fans love for later, though I share the anxiety about the new show moving so quickly. Perhaps if I wasn’t such a huge fan of the manga, I wouldn’t be such a stickler.



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QUOTE (Vagrant @ Jul 15 2009, 04:15 AM) *
OT: By the way, this "rentanjutsu"? What's the official translation there? Just Xingese alchemy or...?

@Vagrant - So far, the reference to Rentanjitsu came up briefly only once on episode 2 as "Alkahest" and we had a brief discussion at that time, but, let's wait till the official English sub for this chapter to be out on Funimation.com on Thursday, which is tomorrow, and then we will probably all know how it would be called in English for FMA:B anime officially. smile.gif

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post Jul 15 2009, 03:31 PM
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Great episode... Best so far... At last, some action... I waited for TMD-ASU subtitles, and I wasn't wrong... Great job... wink.gif
I loved the fight with Fuu and Ran-Fan...
At last... Al performed alchemy by just clapping his hands... wink.gif Can't wait for ep. 16 wink.gif


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Oh look the Eclipse subs are out. But at this point I think I am just gong to wait for the Funi ones tomorrow. happy.gif
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