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Hawkeye X Roy: The Royai Thread, For Roy, Riza, and Royai fans, and more!!
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post Oct 29 2009, 07:39 AM
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Turdaewen--O.O Wow. I am IMPRESSED! You said that so eloquently that I really think you deserve a round of applause or something. And that really gives me hope, considering that Arakawa can always pull off some sort of crazy surprise and still have it be believable within the story. Hopefully, any further surprises we get concerning Roy and Riza are good ones!


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post Oct 29 2009, 09:02 AM
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As far as whether or not FMA can be classified properly as a 'shounen manga' or not, I'm rather glad that there's more of a trend in blurring the lines in defining what type of genre a manga is.

For me, manga can be just as involved and interesting as books, but just like their literary counterparts, there can be the stigma of being defined by what you read. So, the fact that more series are embracing having several different elements in their storytelling and style makes me very happy - and I'm also all for character development.

Of course, the thing I don't want is that to have development that is counter-intuitive or counter-productive to specific characters involved. Which strangely leads back to the whole kissing and admitting of feelings on Roy & Riza's parts...I can't see them being explicitly open about admitting everything, but at the same time I can see them hinting or admitting things here and there as much more in tune with their characters. I mean, it's one thing whenever Hughes basically says that he loves Gracia - it's to be expected, but it's another thing when Roy openly admits his feelings - it unexpected, but at the same time, it seems not really him.

Make sense?
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post Oct 29 2009, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Oct 29 2009, 02:02 PM) *
As far as whether or not FMA can be classified properly as a 'shounen manga' or not, I'm rather glad that there's more of a trend in blurring the lines in defining what type of genre a manga is.

For me, manga can be just as involved and interesting as books, but just like their literary counterparts, there can be the stigma of being defined by what you read. So, the fact that more series are embracing having several different elements in their storytelling and style makes me very happy - and I'm also all for character development.

Of course, the thing I don't want is that to have development that is counter-intuitive or counter-productive to specific characters involved. Which strangely leads back to the whole kissing and admitting of feelings on Roy & Riza's parts...I can't see them being explicitly open about admitting everything, but at the same time I can see them hinting or admitting things here and there as much more in tune with their characters. I mean, it's one thing whenever Hughes basically says that he loves Gracia - it's to be expected, but it's another thing when Roy openly admits his feelings - it unexpected, but at the same time, it seems not really him.

Make sense?

Perfect sense. ^^ And I agree with every word of it.

This is not a teen romance novel for that sort of scene to happen, therefore, something like that would seem out of place and just plain cheeky.
But, in that sense, I believe entirely in Arakawa's intuition and sensibility to not make something like that: she's just too good for such a basic mistake.

But, at the same time, I can see something romantic between Roy and Riza... not in the sense of kissing or proposing or anything of the sort, but a exchange of smiles and lines that imply a deeper relationship (like the scene at the end of FMA 1. Strangely enough that was REALLY Arakawaish, the way I look at it.). In that sense, I can perfectly see something happening.


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post Oct 29 2009, 10:18 AM
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^But if they do things that imply a deeper relationship, what's wrong with us seeing the actual relationship? There has to be one somewhere, and I guess it's only a matter of whether Arakawa actually writes/draws about it. <- By the way, what I just said doesn't really reflect what I personally want to see happening, it was just a thought.

As for them both being open about feelings to one another... I can definitely see it (although maybe that's just because I'm a hopeless romantic). They're only human, they surely won't go tip-toeing around the issue forever, rules or no rules. People have different personalities for different occasions and I don't think a confession of feelings is too out of character.

That said, a judge of character is subjective, thus our opinions are all different on the matter and I don't think there's a right or wrong here.

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post Oct 29 2009, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Oct 29 2009, 10:45 AM) *
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Oct 29 2009, 02:02 PM) *
As far as whether or not FMA can be classified properly as a 'shounen manga' or not, I'm rather glad that there's more of a trend in blurring the lines in defining what type of genre a manga is.

For me, manga can be just as involved and interesting as books, but just like their literary counterparts, there can be the stigma of being defined by what you read. So, the fact that more series are embracing having several different elements in their storytelling and style makes me very happy - and I'm also all for character development.

Of course, the thing I don't want is that to have development that is counter-intuitive or counter-productive to specific characters involved. Which strangely leads back to the whole kissing and admitting of feelings on Roy & Riza's parts...I can't see them being explicitly open about admitting everything, but at the same time I can see them hinting or admitting things here and there as much more in tune with their characters. I mean, it's one thing whenever Hughes basically says that he loves Gracia - it's to be expected, but it's another thing when Roy openly admits his feelings - it unexpected, but at the same time, it seems not really him.

Make sense?

Perfect sense. ^^ And I agree with every word of it.

This is not a teen romance novel for that sort of scene to happen, therefore, something like that would seem out of place and just plain cheeky.
But, in that sense, I believe entirely in Arakawa's intuition and sensibility to not make something like that: she's just too good for such a basic mistake.

But, at the same time, I can see something romantic between Roy and Riza... not in the sense of kissing or proposing or anything of the sort, but a exchange of smiles and lines that imply a deeper relationship (like the scene at the end of FMA 1. Strangely enough that was REALLY Arakawaish, the way I look at it.). In that sense, I can perfectly see something happening.


Oooh, what if they DID end the same way the first anime did? But the roles would be reversed, with Riza in the hospital bed (recovering from her tragic injury) and Roy at her side wearing a miniskirt.


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post Oct 29 2009, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (Kaleidoscope @ Oct 29 2009, 12:27 PM) *
Oooh, what if they DID end the same way the first anime did? But the roles would be reversed, with Riza in the hospital bed (recovering from her tragic injury) and Roy at her side wearing a miniskirt.


I'm sure that Roy can pull off wearing a miniskirt just fine... tongue.gif
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post Oct 29 2009, 01:24 PM
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Turdaewen I really like what you said about the type of genre FMA is. Sometimes it is hard to classify it as one specific genre, except for "Arakawa".

My inner fangirl/romantic does want to see a kiss, or some sort of confession. But I keep telling myself to believe in what Arakawa has to offer in Roy and Riza's relationship. And I tell myself that if they do kiss, Arakawa is the only person to pull it off.

Finally one main theme in FMA is being human. Al is always questioning his humanity, and Ed refuses to kill anyone because they are human, and if he killed someone who isn't human, he would have to admit that Al isn't human either. So what I am saying is that Roy and Riza are human, and who knows may act on human desires or emotions.

Only 2 weeks left until the chapter is realeased. I really need to stop analyzing FMA so much, because I think it is effecting my grades.
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post Oct 29 2009, 01:49 PM
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Confession... I don't wanna see a confession!
Because everything is clear to me and to Roy and to Riza anyways, they allready would know if they love each other xD.
Well, a kiss is something else...


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post Oct 29 2009, 02:01 PM
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i want a kiss XDDDD I know they don't need it but i want it xD


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I want a kiss, too... XD or at least a hug, after the final battle.

Only 2 weeks until chapter 101! I hope we'll get spoilers, preview pics and raw early, because I'm dying to know what's gonna happen!
I know, I need to focus on my studies instead of FMA, but I can't stop thinking about the next chapter.


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post Oct 29 2009, 03:08 PM
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I should be studying for my exams, but instead here I am. I figured I might as well post here and get it out of my system so I can focus properly on my work instead of thinking about 101.

My inner Royai fangirl would love it if they did kiss, but I wouldn't feel cheated if we don't get one. Throughout the series they've both shown how much they care about each other without needing kisses or proposals or big, dramatic "I love you's". That's what fanart and fanfics are for, right? The thing that drew me to Royai in the first place are the subtleties in their interactions- the looks, the smiles, the things that aren't said, and I'm assuming it's the same for most of you as well. I'd like to see them kiss, but I don't need it, because we already know that they care about each other. Does that make sense?

As long as they're both together in the end, and there's no doubt that they're together, I'll be happy. Basically I just want closure.
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post Oct 29 2009, 04:49 PM
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Closure would be good, but then again, just judging by their actions throughout the series, you already have so many instances of how deep their relationship runs.

I mean, when either of them have uttered the "I'm trusting you with my back" phrase, that seems to speak volumes to me as being entrusted with someone's back means that they're basically letting you hold their life in your hands.

And for these two, they've been holding each other up for so long that I doubt they'll be letting go anytime soon.
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QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Oct 29 2009, 04:18 PM) *
QUOTE (Kaleidoscope @ Oct 29 2009, 12:27 PM) *
Oooh, what if they DID end the same way the first anime did? But the roles would be reversed, with Riza in the hospital bed (recovering from her tragic injury) and Roy at her side wearing a miniskirt.


I'm sure that Roy can pull off wearing a miniskirt just fine... tongue.gif


Come on, you know Roy Mustang is dead sexy in a miniskirt. >D


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post Oct 29 2009, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE (Reffer Lift @ Oct 29 2009, 04:55 PM) *
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Oct 29 2009, 04:18 PM) *
I'm sure that Roy can pull off wearing a miniskirt just fine... tongue.gif


Come on, you know Roy Mustang is dead sexy in a miniskirt. >D


I'm a guy and can comfortably admit that yeah, he'd probably rock the miniskirt real well.
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QUOTE (Reffer Lift @ Oct 29 2009, 05:55 PM) *
Come on, you know Roy Mustang is dead sexy in a miniskirt. >D


I love this thread. So much.
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