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Hawkeye X Roy: The Royai Thread, For Roy, Riza, and Royai fans, and more!!
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post Dec 10 2009, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Dec 10 2009, 01:54 PM) *
Roy in a way 'asked' for hardship the minute he decided he wanted to 'get to the top', cause the dream of being Fürher requires him to give up EVERYTHING: the chance of a normal life, the chance to avenge his friend, his pride... and that is also equivalent exchange: is the price he has to pay to fullfill his dream. And so he can understand there's nothing that is truly his that someone can take away.


I agree with you.

He never somehow wanted/dreamed/aimed for a normal life (not as Maes who wanted to have one) you can see it in the exactly moment Riza asked him when she will see him again in her father's funeral.... he simply answers that he will die wearing the uniform, he won't come back.... isn't that enough prove that he has given up to have a normal life...and then to add something more we have all the furher stuff .....

The prize to get to the top is high.... equivalent exchange?


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post Dec 10 2009, 11:22 AM
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^This is very true. I never thought of it quite that way until now, but it's so true.

And when Riza told him not to die at her father's grave... Eesh. I'm scared now. But I guess Roy is still needed alive, so, even in his current state, I'd say there's a pretty good chance of him making it out of this alive. Worse for the wear, perhaps, but alive all the same.


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post Dec 10 2009, 12:14 PM
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I know this goes against everything etc etc, and it probably won't happen, etc...

But knowing that Amestris' automail is way ahead of the 'automail' of our world, and that I think doctors here have fitted someone with light censor eyes/equipment or something like that etc etc... it would be interesting to see Roy with AUTOMAIL EYES. I mean, if its his nerve endings that have been damaged/his retinas, then couldnt they be 'repaired' the same way Ed can use his automail, the electric currents moving from nerves to wire (or something, I'm guessing) and back to eyes? or new eyes alltgether? It would be fun to see him with X Men-Cyclops style glasses/mask thing. I don't know the anatomy of the eye (grr, that and the neck have hindered mee) so... is that even plausible in the least?
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post Dec 10 2009, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (paca @ Dec 10 2009, 09:57 AM) *
The prize to get to the top is high.... equivalent exchange?


I believe so, as true the moment you start aiming for a life less ordinary, you know that you will never be the same.

For example, elections of public officials are a big deal as people have their favorites/are fans of a specific candidate. Said candidate though, they go from relative anonymity (rather safe in their life) to having their name everywhere - and it's at that point that everyone wants to know everything about you. So you lose the privacy as well as any chance you have at regaining an ordinary life where no one knew about you.

For Roy, he knew that normality/mediocrity was never going to be enough for him - particularly that at Hawkeye-sensei's grave - as he saw that becoming a State Alchemist, he wanted to better the lives of the people of Amestris. In doing so, he was already pledging to be a leader for the people.

His goal was/is to be Fuhrer and prevent another Ishval from happening - a promise he made at the end of the war - goes back to his original dream of wanting to better the lives of the people. Because of his status as a 'war hero', he became well-known and popular, thus again, stripping him of ever leading an ordinary life. And the decision to aim for the top, that's a pretty high ladder to climb that was never going to be easy to begin with.

Then again, could one ever say that his life has been ordinary to begin with, after all, his 'mother' is really his aunt - who also happens to be an owner of a bar/brothel and is well-connected in regards to gathering information about people.
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post Dec 10 2009, 12:40 PM
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Sorry to change topic: The Wii game is out today and someone already started uploading gameplay videos.
Here's a video in which Roy saves Riza from the falling tower:
http://www.nicozon.net/watch/sm9056447

That's the first Royai moment in the game. biggrin.gif

I posted more videos here:
http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/...st&p=715701


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post Dec 10 2009, 12:55 PM
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Thanks for that, maybe it'll cheer me up a little bit.

Anyway, if you notice that I'm not being that present, it's that I'm still in shock and just don't feel like talking about it...


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Michiyo---Thanks for the link! (And the lighter Royai subject matter!) That definitely warmed my heart and made me smile. Awww... wub.gif


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post Dec 10 2009, 01:00 PM
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@amestris_star: You're not alone, I'm still in shock too.

At least this video is here to cheer us up. smile.gif


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post Dec 10 2009, 01:04 PM
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lol
pic <3
regarding chapter 102 xDDDD roy's solution? (Spoiler Warning!! ^^)

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Michiyo thanks for the link ;D

... jacksparrow589: I don't expect him to die in connection of that words....

but they are for me a kind of "I'm refusing a normal life, and that's what I want"...and so Riza know he won't come back and just ask him to stay alive...but with her question wasn't she expecting something?.... and a few years later she joins the military, where he was, and where he would stay forever... D:


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post Dec 10 2009, 01:13 PM
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Nice video and awesome pic xD

I wonder if Arakawa will do some jokes about what's happened at these two during the latest chapters in one of her omakes (4-koma is the right name?)

She's so good to take the heat out of the situation, even the saddest one tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2009, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (DoxyWings @ Dec 10 2009, 07:14 PM) *
it would be interesting to see Roy with AUTOMAIL EYES. I mean, if its his nerve endings that have been damaged/his retinas, then couldnt they be 'repaired' the same way Ed can use his automail, the electric currents moving from nerves to wire (or something, I'm guessing) and back to eyes? or new eyes alltgether? It would be fun to see him with X Men-Cyclops style glasses/mask thing. I don't know the anatomy of the eye (grr, that and the neck have hindered mee) so... is that even plausible in the least?


THAT WOULD BE SO COOL
Lol. I actually saw a programme about giving sight to the blind and it takes a lot of bulky equipment, opening up the skull to put sensors on the brain and such. Even then they could only differentiate between light and dark space, it was nowhere near perfect... and it was very unreliable.


Also... I can't see any of those videos, my internet is being dodgy at the minute so I'll try again soon. I can't read the website so that doesn't help either. I fail.
Edit: lol nevermind, I never saw the 'play' link on the site, my bad. tongue.gif
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post Dec 10 2009, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Dec 10 2009, 09:00 PM) *
@amestris_star: You're not alone, I'm still in shock too.

At least this video is here to cheer us up. smile.gif


Thanks dear, at least there are other people as depressed as I am at the moment... *sighs*


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i highly doubt automail eyes are possible even in fma, (i ironically had a physics exam today and we had a lot on lenses includin how the eye works) its just not possible, well not to get his proper vision back anyway, I know there is experimental technology in the real world but its just flashes of light and stuff, well i guess it could be possible but very difficult, and it depends which part of his eye was taken, maybe a future amestrias could have the technology but i cant see them having it now

oh the plus side XD I'm not convinced roy is gonna stay blind at all, if ed and al are intending to get there bodies back, whos to say izumi and roy wont reclaim theres?


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post Dec 10 2009, 02:18 PM
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I'd argue that the possibility alone of Roy regaining his eyesight is contingent upon where along the path things got disconnected, and the nature of the disconnection itself.

Regardless, I'd say that, because of the way FMA tends to go, it's probably not going to happen, anyway. It'd just be too easy. Or, if Roy were to go back to the Gate to get his eyesight back, something else would probably be taken, and I don't even want to think what that might be. There might be that same issue with Ed and Al, although I wonder if they traded back their ability to perform alchemy without a circle, could they regain what's been taken? (This last bit spoiler-tagged only because it hints at what happened to Roy.)

paca--Ah, I'm just being paranoid. There are so many moments in FMA that, looking back, were foreshadowed/hinted at, and now I'm at the "can't be too careful" stage of figuring out what is or isn't foreshadowing. I really do think (and hope and wish and all that jazz) that Roy (and Riza) will make it out alive.


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post Dec 10 2009, 02:20 PM
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Is Roy blind in both eyes?


God epic chapter, reminded me of Oedipus, the greek tragedy and the irony of fate ......
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