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Philosophy And Anime, Which shows have got you thinking?
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post Oct 1 2006, 12:46 PM
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It's well known that Anime is crawling with diffrent, often pesimistic, philosophies.
FMA covered what defines a Human (See Al and thr Homunculus), I'm pretty sure Neon Genesis may have a hint of philosophy and who can forget the many lessons from Azumanga Daioh?

Which shows have really got you thiking about something and what was it they got you thinking about?

Melancholoy of Haruhi Suzumia got me wondering about existentialism (the theory that the Universe only exists becasue we are aware of it.)
Elfen lied also got my Gray cells stirring on human behaviour, Nature V Nutrue and all that mallarky.

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post Oct 2 2006, 02:54 PM
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For me lately it's been Naruto and FMA. Naruto because they question ALOT throughout the series but the whole Sasuke and Naruto got me thinking alot: you know, about friendship, working towards a life bent on revenge and letting hatred and distrust and so forth consume you, and then of course the importance of friendship and protecting those who are precious to you.

With FMA i think alot of the whole science vs. religion, leaving the dead to rest and reconciling yourself with their death, never giving up on one's own goals and the price of hefting a burden on yourself.

Alot of thinking....


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post Oct 2 2006, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(Ana~Banana~bel @ Oct 2 2006, 05:54 PM) [snapback]454227[/snapback]

For me lately it's been Naruto and FMA. Naruto because they question ALOT throughout the series but the whole Sasuke and Naruto got me thinking alot: you know, about friendship, working towards a life bent on revenge and letting hatred and distrust and so forth consume you, and then of course the importance of friendship and protecting those who are precious to you.

D:

...but I'll forgive you since your interests are Reno 911 and Chappelle's Show.


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post Oct 2 2006, 04:34 PM
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Ergo Proxy.

I can't tell you what episode 21 made me think about because it's a spoiler, lawl, but it broke my brain for a minute.


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post Oct 2 2006, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Oct 2 2006, 07:34 PM) [snapback]454297[/snapback]

Ergo Proxy.

I can't tell you what episode 21 made me think about because it's a spoiler, lawl, but it broke my brain for a minute.

Considering the very title of the show comes from that famous quote by Descartes, it's second nature for EP to be philosophical...


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post Oct 2 2006, 04:57 PM
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As pathetic as it may seem, my philosophical savior would have to be Gundam Wing...i pretty much used all of Relina's quotes about war and peace and all that crap to get an "A" in phil when i was a UG. Yeah, i mean...granted i DID put my own spin on it to make 10 pg papers, basically the show did all of the thinking for me. Hehehehe...bc i had better things to do with my time than write papers that didnt pertain to my major.. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(Molecular Alchemist @ Oct 2 2006, 07:57 PM) [snapback]454317[/snapback]

As pathetic as it may seem, my philosophical savior would have to be Gundam Wing...i pretty much used all of Relina's quotes about war and peace and all that crap to get an "A" in phil when i was a UG. Yeah, i mean...granted i DID put my own spin on it to make 10 pg papers, basically the show did all of the thinking for me. Hehehehe...bc i had better things to do with my time than write papers that didnt pertain to my major.. laugh.gif

...at least it's not InuYasha or Naruto...


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QUOTE(Molecular Alchemist @ Oct 2 2006, 07:57 PM) [snapback]454317[/snapback]

As pathetic as it may seem, my philosophical savior would have to be Gundam Wing...i pretty much used all of Relina's quotes about war and peace and all that crap to get an "A" in phil when i was a UG. Yeah, i mean...granted i DID put my own spin on it to make 10 pg papers, basically the show did all of the thinking for me. Hehehehe...bc i had better things to do with my time than write papers that didnt pertain to my major.. laugh.gif

...at least it's not InuYasha or Naruto...

laugh.gif Nah, there are no real philosophical lessons that i can drag out of those....GW had speaches that would last an episode or two...talk about convient! Besides, Naruto is just good for a laugh....and i stopped watching Inuyasha years ago smile.gif


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I find InuYasha to be a complex rollercoaster of moral and philosophical enigmas, rife with contraversy and deep emotional impact, its universal questions finding a niche in their applicability to the issues we face as a society, both in the past, and in modern times.

The constant need to yell out the names of attacks, for example, is primely demonstrative of our human need to declare our intentions, innermost feelings and problems with utmost verbosity, even when their vocalization is entirely unnecessary. This of course, is doubled in significance when coupled with the deep characters that they are called out by. InuYasha himself is a prime example. Saddled by the dillemma of denying his hormonal flings with the girl who betrayed him as well as her reincarnation, he also must bear the crushing weight of his outcast position, unnaccepted in society of demons or humans, by those who cannot see him as a whole, complete being, rather than his mixed breed origins. They can neither see his humanity, nor his demonity, and are most often drawn instead, to his fuzzy white ears. Indeed, I think we can all relate to Inu-Yasha. We all have some fuzzy white ears of our own to deal with day to day, and it sometimes hurts us inside out, to the point that we also feel the need to call out "WIND SCAAAAAAR!"


And the Shikon is a symbol for nukyular weapons, lolz.


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My philosophical musing are over FMA, Ghost in the Shell, and Cowboy Bebop. Ah, but isn't anime wonderful when it makes you think?


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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Oct 2 2006, 06:36 PM) [snapback]454361[/snapback]

I find InuYasha to be a complex rollercoaster of moral and philosophical enigmas, rife with contraversy and deep emotional impact, its universal questions finding a niche in their applicability to the issues we face as a society, both in the past, and in modern times.

The constant need to yell out the names of attacks, for example, is primely demonstrative of our human need to declare our intentions, innermost feelings and problems with utmost verbosity, even when their vocalization is entirely unnecessary. This of course, is doubled in significance when coupled with the deep characters that they are called out by. InuYasha himself is a prime example. Saddled by the dillemma of denying his hormonal flings with the girl who betrayed him as well as her reincarnation, he also must bear the crushing weight of his outcast position, unnaccepted in society of demons or humans, by those who cannot see him as a whole, complete being, rather than his mixed breed origins. They can neither see his humanity, nor his demonity, and are most often drawn instead, to his fuzzy white ears. Indeed, I think we can all relate to Inu-Yasha. We all have some fuzzy white ears of our own to deal with day to day, and it sometimes hurts us inside out, to the point that we also feel the need to call out "WIND SCAAAAAAR!"


And the Shikon is a symbol for nukyular weapons, lolz.

laugh.gif Those are all good points, Toby...i never knew inuyasha had some sort of moral highground...


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Indeed. Let us now discuss phallic symbolism in YuGiOh and how it pertains to the Freudian development of the generation of impressionable children viewing it.


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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Oct 2 2006, 09:58 PM) [snapback]454379[/snapback]

Indeed. Let us now discuss phallic symbolism in YuGiOh and how it pertains to the Freudian development of the generation of impressionable children viewing it.

Uh... let's not and say we did...


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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Oct 2 2006, 09:58 PM) [snapback]454379[/snapback]

Indeed. Let us now discuss phallic symbolism in YuGiOh and how it pertains to the Freudian development of the generation of impressionable children viewing it.

Geez, you can find Freudian issues everywhere tongue.gif

Just think about the moral implications in Pokemon where you raise a cute little monster only to use it to fight for you in hopes of fame and badges. Obviously since humans can speak more than their names, they are perfectly suited to use Pokemon for their own gains.

But you ask about Ash and his apparent genuine love for Pikachu and his other Pokemon. Well of course this love is misguided. Considering he left home at a young age in order to seek recognition as a Pokemon trainer, it's obvious that he has hidden demons that motivate him to go that extra mile with his Pokemon. But of course, that motivation is driven by the primal urge to impress his mother by showing that he can be independant and surpass any father figure that may have been in his life.

In the end, unless Ash deals with these issues, he will turn on his Pokemon when he realizes his mother cannot love him sexually as she did his father. When Ash realizes this, he will have to strike out with that inner anger and sexual frustration he has hidden away because he has only had Pokemon fame as his goal.

Anime like many other forms of entertainment find ways to present common philosophical issues. I liked Kinos Journeys for philosophy and ethics. I found it interesting.


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QUOTE(Void @ Oct 2 2006, 07:17 PM) [snapback]454392[/snapback]

QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Oct 2 2006, 09:58 PM) [snapback]454379[/snapback]

Indeed. Let us now discuss phallic symbolism in YuGiOh and how it pertains to the Freudian development of the generation of impressionable children viewing it.

Uh... let's not and say we did...

hehehe, awww...com'mon Void...it could be quite entertaining. laugh.gif Erm...granted ive seen like...only one or two epis, but thats enough to draw Freudian conclusions...hehe, i bet it would be fun to do with Pokemon too but im not sure if that would be concidered philosophy or psychology hahaha tongue.gif

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hold crap, i think Arche just read my mind...and beat my post...damn my slow typing...lol


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