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post Jul 18 2006, 09:36 AM
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I have been studying Japanese for three years now and have come to the realisation that it is a farily difficult language. I am glad that you desire to learn that language, but it truly takes a great deal of dedication and effort on your behalf. Some younger students beleive that you can simply learn Japanese by whatching your favourite anime series- Unfortunately, that is not the case. Knowing simple phrases, but having no knowledge of grammar and syntax does not mean that you comprehend a foreign language. The best way to learn the langauge is to find a private tutor or take a class at your University or Secondary School. It takes a great deal of dedication to learn this language especially with the three writing systems. However if you are a dedicated learner I am sure that you will excel. I wish you the best of luck! Ganbatte.

PS- The Rosetta Stone computer program is very good if you desire to begin learning the language without a teacher.
---The book entitled "Japanese for Busy People" is a great tool for people beggining Japanese. It has an edition in Romaji (English characters) and another edition in Japanese writing.


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post Jul 28 2006, 11:06 AM
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I'm taking Japanese lessons right now, and I just got done with learning my numbers and how to translate them.

I'm using the book, Japanese in MangaLand by Marc Bernabe and its a very helpful book. The lessons are very explanitory and they give examples of how to use Japanese properly through the help of Manga.

Anywho, this is what I've learned so far:

Basic Expressions:

Good Morning (until 11am): ohayo gozaimasu
Good Afternoon (11am-6pm): Konnchi wa
Good Evening (6pm and on): Konban wa
Good Night (at bed time): o-yasumi nasai

How are you? : o-genki desu ka?
I'm fine: hai, genki desu.
My name is *insert name* : watashi no namae wa *insert name here* desu.
How do you do? : hajimemashite
Pleased to meet you: yoroshiku o-negai shimasu

Most simple way of saying "thank you" : arigato
Very formal way of saying "thank you" : domo arigato gozaimasu
Little less formal way of saying "thank you" : arigato gozaimasu
Thanks: domo
You're Welcome: do itashimashite
It's okay : iie

Well see you tomorrow: ja, mata ashite
Well, see you later! : ja ne, mata!
See you later! : mata ne!
Bye Bye: baibai

I've also learned my basic hiragana, katakana and kanji, although kanji is the hardest. I do know a few swear words and they do have a lesson dedicated to solely insults and swears. Here are a few; some have been said in earlier posts as well.

Baka/Bakamono/Aho : fool, simpleton, ass, dunce, idiot, silly, stupid, fathead, nut
Bakayaro: fool, stupid, son of a b*tch
Baka ni suru: to make fun of, make a fool of
Baka o iu: to talk nonsence
Bakabakashii: absurd, ridiculous
Doji: blunder
Busu: ugly woman, plain looking
Tako: coward
Manuke: half-wit, moron
Kusokurae: go to hell, eat shit
Kuso: damn it, shit

LOL that's all I'm going to post. I don't want to make this one too long.


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post Jul 28 2006, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(ScarMySoul @ Jul 29 2006, 02:06 AM) [snapback]426737[/snapback]

I'm taking Japanese lessons right now, and I just got done with learning my numbers and how to translate them.

I'm using the book, Japanese in MangaLand by Marc Bernabe and its a very helpful book. The lessons are very explanitory and they give examples of how to use Japanese properly through the help of Manga.
Wow! I'm so jealous, I wish I could take japanese.. but I doubt my parents would allow me to because we're chinese (WW2 stuff, yeah)..

Thus I learn Japanese on my own. I bought a Guidebook to Japanese Language and learnng them at my own pace. I'm too busy and slacky and lazy to learn as fast. I think I should do it after my exams - in November.. Ahaha..


QUOTE(ScarMySoul @ Jul 29 2006, 02:06 AM) [snapback]426737[/snapback]
Baka/Bakamono/Aho : fool, simpleton, ass, dunce, idiot, silly, stupid, fathead, nut
Bakayaro: fool, stupid, son of a b*tch
Baka ni suru: to make fun of, make a fool of
Baka o iu: to talk nonsence
Bakabakashii: absurd, ridiculous
May I add
"Baka mitai" - Don't do stupid things
"Baka jan neyo" - Don't be stupid
"Baka jan" - You're being stupid

?? Hehe.. I guess I know quite a phrases related to "Baka".. laugh.gif *Please do correct me if I had made any mistakes*


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post Jul 28 2006, 11:12 PM
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@ScarMySoul & MeLRizA - Thanks for nice begining Japanese lessens. happy.gif

QUOTE(ScarMySoul @ Jul 28 2006, 01:06 PM) [snapback]426737[/snapback]
Tako: coward
Ha, tako ("octopus") is "coward" ??
I wonder what ika ("squid") would be then?? biggrin.gif Spineless?? laugh.gif

Oh, and, a bit of spelling correction, if I may:
QUOTE(ScarMySoul @ Jul 28 2006, 01:06 PM) [snapback]426737[/snapback]
"We'll see you tomorrow": "ja, mata ashite"
(Italic is made by me)
I think you meant "ja, mata ashita" (since "ashita" means "tomorrow" in Japanese,) right?? happy.gif

BTW, since you mentioned, I like the word "doji" ("blunder".)
It's kind of commical, and not harsh.
It sort of contains "built-in" forgiveness for the blunder the word is referring to, IMO. smile.gif


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post Jul 28 2006, 11:57 PM
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I'm proud that I know all of these here just from listening to Japanese people and watching anime. happy.gif

I've only got one word for now...the only one I haven't seen on here.

Pronunced exactly how I type it.

E-ten-ish-I "Take care", or "Have a good trip!"


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post Jul 29 2006, 02:01 AM
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^^Or, try saying "it-rush-I" with it as in "this is it," and rush as in "rush hour," and I as in "you & I," and try saying them fast, and that may work, too. biggrin.gif
(The actual Japanese word for that is "itterasshai," I think, tho I'm not 100% sure about the spelling at the moment.)


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post Aug 2 2006, 02:02 AM
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About learning Japanese: I think, pronauciation-wise, if you speak Spanish, or any of the Polynesian languages, or Swahili, that might help, because the pronounceation of Japanese words spelled in Roman Alphabets is somewhat similar to the way that of these languages, I think.
Also, if you speak, or have some knowledge of, or familier with, Chinese, (and maybe Korean) language, then it might help understanding Japansese language.
Knowledge of Chinese language would help, I think, because Japnese language uses chinese characters as one of the writing mode, and there are many words imported into Japanese language from Chinese, tho the pronounciations might be altered into Japanese way.
Being familiar with Korean language might help, IMO, because some concepts, like having many degrees of "politeness" or many degrees of "respectfulness," or "humbleness," or some other stuff, and thus many variable ways of saying the same thing, with each one having ever slightly different nuances, and picking the right one for the right occasion, like who you're talking to, and what/who you are, in relation to the person you're talking to, etc., etc.... yeah, Japanese language is full of complications like that.

Regardless, learning to speak Japanese language would take some efforts, probably takes years of learning if you want to be able to speak it "properly." And, reading/writing is also not easy as well.
And then, after all that, knowing how to speak Japanese is not that "useful" unless you are interested in some of the Japanese stuff, like anime, or some other Japanese cultural stuff, IMO.
Other languages, such as Spanish, Chinese, French, German, or even Arabic would probably come in much more handy, and much more practically useful, I think.

Even then, if you are interested in some aspect of Japanese stuff, be it Zen, or Japanese food, or some Japanese culture, or art, or manga/anime, and if you get the chance to learn even some basic Japanese, I highly recommend grabbing the opportunity, and "going for it"!! biggrin.gif

Ganbatte kudasai!! happy.gif


BTW, someone, please ask this thread to be moved to the appropreate forum!! biggrin.gif


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post Aug 5 2006, 07:27 AM
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Awww... Europeans and Americans will really have a hard time learning Japanese. Pronounciation alone might be a nightmare since most of them aren't used to vowel intensive words. Same goes for other Asians especially the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans. It's hard for them to pronounce stuff in English as i've experienced it already. I have several Korean batchmates and a Japanese classmate. My half-Chinese, half-Filipino classmate doesn't have problems with pronounciation so lucky him. Chinese, English and Filipino. Luckily i'm a Filipino. I'm still learning Japanese now which is kinda easy for me because I don't have problems with pronounciation with western and eastern languages. Hopefully i'll be trilingual when I finish high school. I'm currently in 1st year high school.

And oh yeah, spoken Japanese is quite easy. Just study the grammar, sentence patterns, practice yourself with someone else and memorize vocabulary which is the "hard" part. The real hard part is the written Japanese. I myself haven't even memorized any Kanji (specific Japanese characters that mean something, it's like a shortcut). There are like 7000+ Kanji characters and i'll be hard for anyone to memorize them. I'll just be sticking with hiragana and katakana. It's like the Japanese alphabet.

Just go for it. Just don't expect to be really good at written Japanese in like... 2 or 3 years. It might even take more than 5 years to master the language and I meant that you'll be like a native speaker. But still spoken Japanese would still be good though for anyone because it doesn't take so years and years to learn it.


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post Aug 7 2006, 11:57 AM
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I'm planning to take Japanese in High School- the pronounciations sound hard, and letters- it looks so hard! wacko.gif


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post Aug 8 2006, 08:56 AM
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The pronounciation isn't really hard at all, since it's the same every time. All you need to do is learn it once. I'd say learning a european language would be much harder in terms of pronounciation.


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post Aug 8 2006, 02:13 PM
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For me Japanese is simple but it's Spanish that can be a little more harder to learn first of all theres the masculine and feminine terms then we have the preterite, furture and past tense.

How ever the reason that I think Japanese is a more simple language to learn is because there are some words that can be pronouncible like Onii-chan for older brother or Onee-chan for Older Sister...

but thats just my opinion...


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post Aug 8 2006, 03:33 PM
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...so how long have you been studying the language? rolleyes.gif


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post Aug 8 2006, 03:36 PM
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That depends which language you're speaking off?

If it's Spanish I've been learning it for four years

If it's Japanese only two years how ever I am not so good at it becuase I've only known this through research from websites, animes, manga's so on so forth... I have been trying to get a vocabulary book of Japanese Language and I have aquired a book on Japanese writing but doesn't have all the facts...

Thats all I know


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If you're 'learning' Japanese through manga and anime, then you're an even bigger numbskull than I'd thought.


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It'd be easier to purchase a language book than to 'learn' from manga. =P


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