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Evolution? Creation?, What do you believe in?
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RemyLeBeau
post Mar 9 2005, 08:29 AM
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I've heard rants and raves about this subject on other forums, so I figured I'd bring the disease here. Please, though:

If you want to argue a point, don't turn this into a flame war. Seriously, just look at philosophy, facts, etc. NOT who has the better insults.

Just to make things clear: I'm for the Creation side of this, and yes I know, there's also an Intelligent Design part arising among scientists. However, I see this as a half-assed attempt to say 'We were created... but not by God.'

I put it in the polls, though, just in case.

So vote, then speak your piece!
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post Mar 9 2005, 09:48 AM
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I believe in evolution. Facts and figures will always outweigh stories that cannot be proven.

Evolution is continually occuring with out 'God' coming by.


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post Mar 9 2005, 10:26 AM
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Creation, always have, and always will believe in it. I've read so much on the subject that as the days pass on and even more research is done, Creationism keeps getting strong and stronger in it's case. It is becoming much less of a story nowdays as more evidence is uncovered.

But... That's only my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. If you're interested in where I get my views, then visit Answers in Genesis.

Have at it people. *steps aside* My words have been spoken already.


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post Mar 9 2005, 12:29 PM
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"Evidence of Creationism", eh?

This, I'd love to see.

Evolution isn't an airtight theory, but it makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than anything scripture has to offer.


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post Mar 9 2005, 01:08 PM
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I think they meant Jesus or God rather. Because Jesus is the son of God and couldn't have created the world.....


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post Mar 9 2005, 05:16 PM
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I dont know what i belive they all sound gibberish to me...


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post Mar 9 2005, 06:48 PM
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Okay, it's about time I started talking again...

Evidence of Creation I have seen, in fact I saw a very thorough seminar series by one Kent Hovind, which they claim debunks evolution and shows a scientific near-proof of Creation.

However, even though I believe it, there's little chance 'scientists' will, because there are few sources cited in the series.


What I do have, however, is a whopping 2,000 page book titled The Evolution Cruncher, which very completely destroys evolution and almost every theory behind it. It covers areas such as Fossils, Stars and the Big Bang, Natural Selection, Mutation, and DNA. There are almost 40 chapters in the whole shebang, and each chapter has references to about four books, maybe twelve quotes by various scientists, (An asterisk is included if the person is a known evolutionist) and maybe ten questions so it could be used in an educational environment.

I was extremely impressed with the whole thing, because it not only provide evidence, but explains why it is evidence. (For Joe Layman, like me.) I think I learned about a semester each of Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Geology, and Ecosystem Biology by reading it.

Here are some links to the annotated version on the Net:

http://evolution-facts.org/Ev-Crunch/c02a.htm
-Why the Big Bang cannot happen and stars cannot evolve.
http://evolution-facts.org/Ev-Crunch/c07.htm
-Why a microbe cannot just create itself by chance.
http://evolution-facts.org/Ev-Crunch/c09.htm
-Why natural selection only makes changes between species.
http://evolution-facts.org/Ev-Crunch/c10a.htm
-Why mutation cannot make positive changes to organisms.


However, I warn you that the book gets a little sarcastic at points, so it's not for the easily offended.

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huh.gif <---But... I can't read...
mad.gif <---READ!
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post Mar 9 2005, 06:52 PM
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post Mar 9 2005, 07:02 PM
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I wish I had the energy to debunk the supposed 'evidence of creationism' and rub your face in the bullshit you just spewed... but alas, I don't. I'll leave it up to the only other person who's responded to this poll with a capacity for rational thought.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you people? Are you trying to tell me that more of you are willing to believe that the earth and everything in it was created in a seven-day period some 5,000-10,000 years ago by some all-powerful being that nobody has ever seen, heard, felt, smelt or tasted, than in a process that can be readily witnessed in the mutation of viruses and bacteria that grow resistant to vaccines and anti-biotics?


Like I said, evolution is far from an air-tight theory, but it sure as hell makes more sense and has more basis in fact than the alternative[s].

Oh, and 'Intelligent Design' isn't a legitimate scientific theory, because it has literally no backing amongst scientists.

I seriously suggest that any of you who are open to that garbage read The Blind Watchmaker by Richard Dawkins.


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post Mar 9 2005, 07:13 PM
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How contreversial. Interesting.

I'm a creationist. I believe that there's a God who made everything and has control over everything except men.

My two cents are here. So don't go taking them for yourself. smile.gif


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Yes, I am willing to tell you that I believe that the God of all created the earth and enitre universe in six days (He rested on the seventh).

Once you really start looking at the evolution theory and look at facts that scientists have discovered, you start to see so many flaws in the theory...As for what those flaws are, I point ot the website link my lil sister posted. I encourage anyone to go there with an open mind...


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*covers eyes*

Homeboy, you realize the crapstorm you've landed yourself in...?

You're gonna make me bombard you with theological and scientific proof that we WERE created by an intelligent design... what we Christians call "GOD"...


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What really is the point of arguing over this thing? huh.gif Clearly we all know what we think and what the other side thinks and no one's about to change their mind. Those who believe in God will always believe in God and those who don't will never do no matter how convincing the other side's facts are.

Cause we're all open-minded like that.
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If you're too open-minded, your brains will fall out.

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What really is the point of arguing over this thing? huh.gif Clearly we all know what we think and what the other side thinks and no one's about to change their mind. Those who believe in God will always believe in God and those who don't will never do no matter how convincing the other side's facts are.

Cause we're all open-minded like that.

Couldn't have said it better myself. This discussion involving creation and/or evolution never really goes anywhere.

On a sidenote, nice corresponding avatar changes, Angel and defining.


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"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary... For thos ewho do NOT, no explanation can be given..."

mellow.gif Let's leave it at that, shall we?


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