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Episode 28: Father - Content Discussion Thread, Warning! May contain spoilers for the first 28 episodes!!
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post Oct 22 2009, 09:29 AM
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I'm glad you like it happy.gif hee and of course ya can lulz


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post Oct 22 2009, 11:09 AM
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I don't get the AlxMei shipping. I mean how old is Mei? Like nine? Ten? Maaaybe eleven?


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post Oct 22 2009, 11:21 AM
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imo she's at least 12, she's short but if you look at her actual body shape she can't be younger than 12, also she crossed the desert by herself and has indeapth knowledge of rendanshu, I think she's about 13 and al is 14/15, heck a friend of mine is 16 and shes about 4ft9 and looks about 12 XD in anime and manga its frequent for their to be characters who look ridculously young but are actually old (such as honey from ouran)


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post Oct 22 2009, 11:43 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure she's around 12 or 13...which makes her only a couple years younger than Al. So no, the pairing wouldn't make him a Jacob Black. xD

'Sides, Winry ships it. As do others. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 22 2009, 12:25 PM
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Yeah, okay, maybe she's 13.

But I remember Al being really pissed off and going all "What did you do to that little girl!??" to Ed when Mei starts crying at how "ugly" (xD) Ed is and that he "took advantage of the naivity of a young girl". I always figured that Al thought Ed had molested hooked up with her. Or something. And that he was like "WTF, she's 12 you fuc*tard!"

Hrm... Anyway.

I like the idea of Al going back to Xing to learn Rentanjutsu. If the Amestrian alchemy stops to work, perhaps that will contribute to the army losing some authority. And maybe then things will become more peaceful?


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post Oct 22 2009, 01:42 PM
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I don't think Al would ever seriously consider his brother to be a molester. He just probably figured Ed had given the girl some sort of false impression of himself (I'm Ed, I'll save you 'cause I'm awesome), or done some other careless thing to offend her.
As for Almei, I ship them based on their awesome potential. Their personalities are very compatible. But that doesn't mean I think they will/should hook up anytime soon. Even if Mei IS nine (though I'd guess she's more like 12) that wouldn't be that weird when she's 20 and he's 25. For the whole thing to be pedophilia, there really has to be a sexual aspect anyway, and there isn't. It's just a cute crush on Mei's side and an admiration (that could someday become something more) on Al's. Which works fine by me, they're both young. They can wait 'til they're older to rock Xing with their skills and have three adorable kids + several cats.


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post Oct 22 2009, 02:29 PM
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@All you AlxMei shippers: Give this thread a bump tongue.gif

The episode didn't give me any strong lasting impressions, but it was decent and still better quality than the first couple of inconsistent eps. At least Greedling is finally here (though I kind of miss Ling's voice...)


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post Oct 23 2009, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE ("Broken Chouchou")
I don't get the AlxMei shipping. I mean how old is Mei? Like nine? Ten? Maaaybe eleven?


Probably twelve or thirteen. And the shippers are mostly all about the cuteness of May's fantasies right now, they think of actual shipping five or six years down the line, when Al will make a trip to Xing and fall for the pretty heir of the Yang clan wink.gif

QUOTE ("Broken Chouchou")
and that he "took advantage of the naivity of a young girl".


No, it's May who said that, not Al biggrin.gif Al asked Ed to excuse himself because he had no trouble at all imagining Ed being a jerk to a girl. Plus I think he brought Winry in the conversation too laugh.gif Like if he thought his brother went both ways laugh.gif

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'Sides, Winry ships it. As do others.


Scar is the only one who looks like "I want not part in that non-sense" laugh.gif Always the straight man. Except when it comes to cats and kitties. Then he becomes as silly as everyone else.
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post Oct 23 2009, 06:26 AM
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I'm a bit late on this one, I guess. ^^ (I'm trying to get back involved in my forums - there are others where my last post was over two years ago, but I'm trying ^^)

This episode had my favorite fight scene from the manga in it, and I'm happy to see BONES did it well. I know quite a few of you guys didn't quite like it, but the way I played it out in my mind was almost exactly the way BONES animated it.

The whole thing where they "rushed" it. In my mind, it was a pretty fast-paced battle, with everything overlapping each other. A few notes I had while watching:

o Did anyone else miss the part in the manga where Father checked Ed's antenna to see if it was alright? (http://pic.sky-fire.com/AllComic/Browser.h...p;v=054&p=7 at the bottom of the page)
o My thought when Father was patting Ed's body - "Anyone walking in on this would think he's molesting the poor child"
o They also cut out Ed's reaction to kicking the stone instead of Father (http://pic.sky-fire.com/AllComic/Browser.h...;v=054&p=17 it's a bit small, but the panel after he kicks the stone, Ed's in the background hopping around comedically)
o Father foot-tapping the cr@p out of Amestrian alchemy - I've imagined a white color instead of red, but this matches well with the theme of blood and philosopher's stone and whatnot.
o Seeing Hohenheim on the mountain, I've just realized they cut out the small scene at the beginning of Ch. 46 where Hohenheim gets shot several times to save the people in the caravan and tells a woman he's a "monster".
o Ed and Al have a lot of shared lines. A LOT.
o My first thought when Father extracted Greed from his eye-forehead: "This music sounds like the first few measures of Super Smash Bros. Brawl's main theme"
o Showing what Ling saw from his POV (including his bangs) was a good touch.

...and i have a few more notes regarding the rest of the episode, but everyone else basically mentioned them in their posts and I don't want to repeat. ^^

I like having the old Greed's voice. Yes, it helps to distinguish the internal conflict between the two, but also it helps to distinguish the two on the outside as well (someone online had noted that in the manga, the reader can tell when Ling breaks through to speak/move that his bangs move from blocking one eye to blocking the other eye, or his eyes close or something. Having his voice change would be phenomenally easier)

As for AlxMay, I also noticed it rather significant that Al left Ed to deal with Envy, Gluttony, GreeLing, and Father all on his own (well, with Scar too, but he soon followed) while he left to take May to safety. I would have thought Al would move May to an empty corner and told her to stay there and try to rest while he helped Ed, but this was an interesting break.


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post Oct 26 2009, 06:13 AM
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A weak ep actually, huge disappointment. No emotion, average action, no musical highlights, average humour, standard animation. I've expected it to be better.
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Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 28 (on CN on Adult Swim) talk-back/discussions here. smile.gif

FMA:B will air 1:00 AM - 1: 30 AM and 5:00 AM - 5:30 AM eastern time. smile.gif


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post Jan 16 2011, 12:12 AM
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WOW, superb voice acting in this one, at least in my opinion. LOVE Greed!


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post Jan 16 2011, 01:23 AM
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I like the fight scenes in this episode. And, finally, we have Greedling! biggrin.gif


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post Jan 16 2011, 05:57 AM
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I wish Troy Baker had been Greed as far back as the original series. They could have gotten Chris Patton to play Frank Archer instead.

Baker brings out way more of Greed's personality than Patton ever did. This is the guy who should always have been Greed in the dub.


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post Jan 16 2011, 01:02 PM
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New Greed is awesome. Troy Baker really should have been Greed from the start.

The voice acting in this episode is really good. I didn't like Father's English voice at first, but he really seems to do a good job in this episode. As did Vic, who I normally consider inferior to Romi Park.


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