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Alphonse - Circles On Gloves?
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post Aug 14 2006, 05:04 PM
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[spoiler]Al DOES get the ability to do alchemy without circles in the Manga, and for a short time in the anime after becoming the stone.[/spoiler]

So maybe he gets the ability to do alchemy without circles AFTER the movie, if he could keep his memories if he returned to Amestris somehow


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post Aug 17 2006, 04:05 AM
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My statement may be vague but I think it's because Ed and Al are gifted. They ARE the sons of Hohenheim, who himself is a master alchemist. Another thing, Alphonse may have trained a lot during those two years and Ed might be kinda rusty because he hasn't used alchemy for a long while.


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post Aug 17 2006, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(Ratzenheich FMA Super fan @ Aug 17 2006, 07:05 AM) [snapback]433764[/snapback]

My statement may be vague but I think it's because Ed and Al are gifted. They ARE the sons of Hohenheim, who himself is a master alchemist. Another thing, Alphonse may have trained a lot during those two years and Ed might be kinda rusty because he hasn't used alchemy for a long while.

Thats true, and watching the 3rd episode over pushes that theory.


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post Aug 20 2006, 03:00 AM
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Some people may think it's because He wants to be like Ed, sure..but that doesn't explain the circle in particular, it just explains the looks. Lol.

Alphonse uses gloves because He came back as a 10 year old in a normal Human body, with no knowledge of the gate. He so does not remember anything at the time, only the things before his adventures with Edward.


Alphonse later starts to remember His memories and get back the "truth" in which gives him the knowledge to be able to Craft out the circle. Seeing as so it is in a way "universal" he probably made the circle himself. Some may ask "why not ed use gloves then? " because he already uses his body as a rune(transmutation circles) , thus not needing the gloves.

The 7 point transmutation Alphonse crafted in order to open the door, was also another thing he remembered from his memories. Seeing as so he WAS the philosphers stone, and the 7 point transmutation circle appears when Human transmutation is used. Since Alphonse tried to open the gate,( that does involve human lives) the 7 point transmutation circles appeared. Becuase of his Now gained memories.


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post Aug 22 2006, 12:53 AM
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About "universal" transmutation circles, in the anime Alphonse uses allways the same circle anyway.
I think transmutation circle starts the transmutation reaction, and the alchemist then uses the power to manipulate the shape and components of the object. Ed can't do alchemy without a circle, but since he saw the gate, he can use alchemy just by making the circle by putting his hands together. So the better alchemist you are, more freely you can use the circles.
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post Aug 22 2006, 05:34 PM
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hmmm.. maybe, instead of getting the ability to perfrom alchemy without tramsutation circles, he gained the ability to do anything only with one circle!

but.. then again, that's only one of my crazy never-making-sence theories.. ^^;;


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post Aug 23 2006, 11:15 PM
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Its really all about the knowledge the Alchemist knows. Even if he has the most complicated circle,he wouldn't be able to figure it out without any knowledge. So Alphonse saw the gate, Just like edward. And all memories came back. Even the sense of being the Philosphers stone. Alphonse has a great mind as of now..


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post Aug 24 2006, 12:55 AM
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The circle on Al's glove enable him to use alchemy without drawing them all the time. He gained his body back at the end of the series and is no longer a philosopher's stone anymore, so he had to use the circle to do it all the time. By drawing a circle on his glove, he just need to clap his hand together and do alchemy.


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post Sep 23 2006, 09:38 PM
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For all basic alchemy which basically convets one thing into another, an alchemist can use their own personal circle for anything they need. For things that are highly advanced, like making a philosophers stone or performing human transmutation in which you are dealing with a high level of alchemical reactions, you need a special array in order to prevent a rebound, which is why when sealing the humonculi, which for lack of a better word is basically human transmutation, and making the philosophers stone, Ed needed an array to help contain and control the alchemical reaction he was about to create. But otherwise, when an alchemist is training, they have their own personal array that is unique to them, and with that they can do any amount of alchemy they wish.
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post Nov 20 2006, 08:34 PM
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Well i think that Alphonse that he lost his memories i think that he use to doing that he wants to clap his hands to do alchemy or saw Teacher doing it when he was training alchemy with here


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post Nov 24 2006, 02:21 PM
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Because he has seen the gate ( he remembered it when he returned to his real body) he does not need a circle at all, however transmutations envalving human transmutation requare a circle weather or not the alchemist has seen the gate
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post Nov 25 2006, 06:53 PM
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So, at the end when he got his memory back, if he had still been in their world, would he have been able to do alchemy without a circle?
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post Nov 26 2006, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(TheSnig @ Nov 26 2006, 01:53 AM) [snapback]477942[/snapback]
So, at the end when he got his memory back, if he had still been in their world, would he have been able to do alchemy without a circle?


That seems to make sence, as he has memorys coming back.
But we wont ever know! XD


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post Nov 30 2006, 09:39 AM
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this is confusing... I thought Al regain his body a from the gate and came back. there fore should know the truth about alchemy and use alchemy w/o a circle.


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QUOTE(Mikage_Elric @ Nov 30 2006, 10:39 AM) [snapback]479545[/snapback]
this is confusing... I thought Al regain his body a from the gate and came back. there fore should know the truth about alchemy and use alchemy w/o a circle.

But when he regain his body. He did lost his memories right?

Maybe the other told him that Edward could do alchemist by clapping his hand (and form a transmute circle on his hand). And Alphonse want to mimic his lovely brother so he wear gloves with transmutation circle on tongue.gif CLAP CLAP CLAP


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