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A Little Mistake, A few mistakes in FMA
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post Aug 29 2005, 02:04 PM
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<Moving from FMA Anime American Audience sub-forum to FMA Anime Japanese Audience sun-forum where all plot hole/continuity argument related threads are being collected currently. 02/21/07 ~Tombow.>



1. Episode:"Philosopher's Stone" (Barry The Chopper)
Mistake- During Winry's Capture Barry shoved the carcases of the pigs (to show winry to ed) making the rack move, winry appears stumbling with her feet. (hands tied to the rack). Then when Barry and Ed are fighting the rack is moved and winry is shown on a stool.
2. Episode: "Mother"
Mistake- After having automail "installed" Ed + Al spar (to train the mind to its potential you must train the body). While Sparring Ed kicks Al into the lake with a flying round house.
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Alphonse cant get his blood seal wet. sort of a spolier in later episodes.
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3. Episode: "The Other Brothers Elric Part 1"
Mistake??: I dont think this is a mistake but during Ed's first encounter with Russel they fight and Russel using the philosophers stone from his pocket. I dont know if this is possible or if it is.
4.Episode: "The Phantom Theif"
Mistake: Once Ed + Al enter town Ed graps something to eat or drink, and then they start exploring the city of water, while walking Ed gets splashed and Al says "it is the city of water" then Ed cleans himself up with using alchemy (clapping his hands). What happened to the food/drink that he was carrying? It could have dropped but for some one to drop what they are doing and waste food doesnt seem likely
5. Episode: Will Find out Soon tongue.gif
Mistake: This is a possible mistake, when the Fuhrer + all the State Alchemists from the east or west (i forgot) came to central they brought along their State Alchemist's. It shows a Cafertia FULL of State Alchemist. Is this possible since only 1-2 get accepted ever exam?

<span style='color:blue'>TheVileOne</span>
"How about this.

Where does Ed get new clothes and red leather jackets after he is CONSTANTLY tearing them up and getting the damaged.

When they left Lior he had a brand new, untorn and damaged red jacket."

Well that really isnt a mistake since almost all anime shows do that.

<span style='color:red'>Note:</span>This is just a list of possible mistakes in Full Metal Alchemist, they might not even be mistakes, but if they are a list of them would be nice.


<span style='color:blue'>Alright im not good with the computers so i dont know how to upload a .doc file. to get you to download it, so just copy and paste this into a word document. </span>Mistakes Corrected

<span style='color:red'>Even Better!!!! Download it Directly Here</span>Reika's Unanswered Questions ANSWERED


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post Aug 29 2005, 05:56 PM
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Yeah there is a list of them. A very...very long list =__=
Mistakes List
You'll find the link to it somewhere on that page.


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Maes-Hughes
post Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM
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well whoever made that list doesnt know fma well
for example:
Episode 5-
Ed is able to make the water boil because he DID clap his hands if u watch it you would see it just takes him a few seconds after he claps

EDIT: after reading even more from that list, the person certainly hasnt watched fma alot or even likes the show, most of their accusations can be proven wrong, like where did all that "incomplete stone" in episode 22 come from. the military has been killing people and using them as ingredients

Episode 18- why is lust able to explode part of the library? NOTE: IT WAS SCAR NOT LUST

Episode 19- scar's arm can do more than just destroy things, he already knew the secret of the stone before he "read" the notes from marcoh

Episode 22- Envy said "no one created us, we were born"
Envy was correct in saying that, they were born but then died.


http://www.ahboba.com/otros/bonesmistakes.pdf
i only read like 6 complaints and most of them are false

I will print out the sheet and go over "the mistakes" and correct each one.


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post Aug 29 2005, 08:19 PM
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How about this.

Where does Ed get new clothes and red leather jackets after he is CONSTANTLY tearing them up and getting the damaged.

When they left Lior he had a brand new, untorn and damaged red jacket.


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post Aug 29 2005, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM)
well whoever made that list doesnt know fma well
for example:
Episode 5-
Ed is able to make the water boil because he DID clap his hands if u watch it you would see it just takes him a few seconds after he claps
No. If you watched the original TV version. Ed DIDN'T clap at all but punched his fist into his hand. BONES admitted this was their mistake and corrected it so that the DVD version has Ed clapping. FUNimation used the DVD version for American broadcast.

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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM)
EDIT: after reading even more from that list, the person certainly hasnt watched fma alot or even likes the show, most of their accusations can be proven wrong, like where did all that "incomplete stone" in episode 22 come from. the military has been killing people and using them as ingredients
Is there a problem with your reading skill? Did Reika ask about where the incomplete stone in episode 22 come from?
QUOTE(Reika @ Episode 22)
3) After Ed touches the incomplet Philosopher's Stone (which amount and more is
needed to create the Philosopher's Stone) he enters in reaction with it, and further
more, he is very farther more discontrolled than when he touches the real
Philosopher's Stone later on. Does this mean that no alchemist is able to touch the
stone because it would get uncontrolled? Then, what about Al? Isn't he an alchemist?
Why doesn't he get discontroled? Why can't anyone use alchemy in front of him
because it would happen anything but Dante, Tucker and Al? (LOOSE END)
Did she?

Or are you already messed up in your mind that you confused episode 11 with episode 22?
QUOTE(Reika @ Episode 11)
2) Thereís a huge inexhaustible fountain of red water, which is said in episode 22 to
be created by humanís lifes. Is there any kind of machine that is continuesly killing
poeple in order to make this liquid be that much? (NONSENSE)
So since you claim you know FMA so well, why don't you answer Reika's question on how Xenotine has that inexhaustible red water.

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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM)
Episode 19- scar's arm can do more than just destroy things, he already knew the secret of the stone before he "read" the notes from marcoh

QUOTE(Reika @ Episode 19)
1)Why does Scar's arm have the ability to recopilate and erase letters from papers
AND decript them when even took days for Ed and Al (who are alchemists) to
decript it, and when his tattoo is just a part of the transmutation circle of the
Philoshoper's Stone and a red stone? (EXCUSE TO MAKE THE PLOT THEY
HAD IN MIND FASTER, LEAVING A HOLE BEHIND)
Episode 42: Lust "your arm is only able to destroy things" (CONTRADICTION)
Reika is simply saying that the anime is having the characters constantly giving contradictory accounts of each other's abilities even after having them witnessing it. Scar is able to only destroy, which he himself confirmed by never using the third stage of alchemy which is destroy.

So what sort of alchemy did Scar use to make a glowing orb of fancy notes floating in the air?

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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM)
Episode 22- Envy said "no one created us, we were born"
Envy was correct in saying that, they were born but then died.
Nope, humans died. Homunculus are created. Envy later complained over his manufacturer (since this is the American Audience forum, episodes 27 and beyond should be avoided in details), Roy said someone created the homunculus which an Alchemist who is very well versed in homunculus never disputed. Not to mention Sloth was seen by the audience later on to be made by somebod(y/ies), and not borne. Did you see her sliming out of some reproduction canal of aliving body?

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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM)
http://www.ahboba.com/otros/bonesmistakes.pdf
i only read like 6 complaints and most of them are false

I will print out the sheet and go over "the mistakes" and correct each one.
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There are some mistakes in her document (she seems a bit confused with Wrath's timeline) and since she's basing it off fansubs, some of her questions are based off the fansubber's translation mistakes (yes, those so called super fansubs by Spoon or Son-whatever do have mistakes).

However most of what she said are true of the series. Even so, she has left out several more mistakes BONES commited when adapting this series from its manga roots.
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post Aug 29 2005, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 29 2005, 06:53 PM)
Episode 19- scar's arm can do more than just destroy things, he already knew the secret of the stone before he "read" the notes from marcoh

QUOTE(Reika @ Episode 19)
1)Why does Scar's arm have the ability to recopilate and erase letters from papers
AND decript them when even took days for Ed and Al (who are alchemists) to
decript it, and when his tattoo is just a part of the transmutation circle of the
Philoshoper's Stone and a red stone? (EXCUSE TO MAKE THE PLOT THEY
HAD IN MIND FASTER, LEAVING A HOLE BEHIND)
Episode 42: Lust "your arm is only able to destroy things" (CONTRADICTION)
Reika is simply saying that the anime is having the characters constantly giving contradictory accounts of each other's abilities even after having them witnessing it. Scar is able to only destroy, which he himself confirmed by never using the third stage of alchemy which is create.

So what sort of alchemy did Scar use to make a glowing orb of fancy notes floating in the air? What purpose did that orb serve? If he wants to destroy the notes, won't simply destroying it and scattering whatever ashes do?
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post Aug 29 2005, 09:13 PM
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The only time I see complaining about these "mistakes" are on these forums.


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post Aug 29 2005, 09:16 PM
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im not complaining about the mistakes fma has im jus happy to see that they are human


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post Aug 29 2005, 09:35 PM
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I never hear people yap about the continuity errors in Raiders Of The Lost Ark.


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post Aug 29 2005, 09:54 PM
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...thas because not many people watch it over and over again, and their isnt a whole fan site thingy either. fma is popular it is normal for people to find flaws its like a scavenger hunt


...EDIT: after reading even more from that list, the person certainly hasnt watched fma alot or even likes the show, most of their accusations can be proven wrong, like where did all that "incomplete stone" in episode 22 come from. the military has been killing people and using them as ingredients

they asked where did they get the ingredients for all those stones and where the people came from


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post Aug 29 2005, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 30 2005, 04:54 AM)
...thas because not many people watch it over and over again, and their isnt a whole fan site thingy either. fma is popular it is normal for people to find flaws its like a scavenger hunt


More people watch Raiders Of The Lost Ark over and over again than Fullmetal Alchemist, considering that the movie is a classic and amongst one of the best of all time. There ARE fansites for Indiana Jones as well. Fansites that point out the continuity errors or "mistakes", but they are not considered to be a detriment to the narrative.

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...EDIT: after reading even more from that list, the person certainly hasnt watched fma alot or even likes the show, most of their accusations can be proven wrong, like where did all that "incomplete stone" in episode 22 come from. the military has been killing people and using them as ingredients

they asked where did they get the ingredients for all those stones and where the people came from
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The people were prisoners the military just said were either court-martialed or executed. Prisoners that were declared dead could then be experimented on.

Did they not cover the fifth Laboratory in the manga? I kind of remember they did or something similar.


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post Aug 29 2005, 10:10 PM
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ya i already knew that, but i was quoting another guy cuz he was being rude.


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post Aug 29 2005, 10:33 PM
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spoilers you have been warned
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epi. 1 none
epi.2i don't know if you would call this a mess-up but when al was explaining to rose and they showed them with there mother she said "You really are his kids alright"and in epi3 she said "You really are his kids no doubt about it"

epi3:(if you look for a split second the water was only waist high to Alphonse)none

epi4:when al falls on Ed for the 1st time they acidentilly colored Eds gloves a flesh color

epi5:none
epi6:in the episode preview's circle and Ed's transmutation circle for Nina there 2 different circle's (and i was wondering too how Ed made the water boil,he DID clap just not the way he usually does and he did'nt punch his fist in his hand he clasped his hands together.)

epi7:none

epi8:when Hughes is obsessing about Elicia they forget to draw Edward's hairband

and i'm stopping there thats the gist of it if i got something wrong tell me but i highly doubt that laugh.gif XD XD kidding











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post Aug 29 2005, 11:37 PM
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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 29 2005, 09:54 PM)
...EDIT: after reading even more from that list, the person certainly hasnt watched fma alot or even likes the show, most of their accusations can be proven wrong, like where did all that "incomplete stone" in episode 22 come from. the military has been killing people and using them as ingredients

they asked where did they get the ingredients for all those stones and where the people came from
[snapback]267908[/snapback]

And again you never bothered to read the questions properly, Reika was asking for EPISODE 11 (in caps since you never since to bother reading where the question was phrased), which is the Xenotine episode where red water flows in infinite abundance. So are the military killing infinite people in Xenotine to make that red fountain dry.gif

QUOTE(ed's numbuh 1 fan @ Aug 29 2005, 10:33 PM)
epi3:(if you look for a split second the water was only waist high to Alphonse)none
And so, if you know your brother is scared of spiders, and he keeps screaming there is a lot of spiders in a cave. You pushed him in and afterwards on finding out there is no spiders in that cave, you tell him "See, there's no spiders in the cave! So why are you shouting and screaming at me now for!"?

Does Ed really know how shallow the water where the spot Al would land be?
Can Ed be so accurate as to kick Al into a shallow spot?
Can Ed make it such that Al would land on his side and not on his back where the water would cover the seal irregardless how shallow the water is?
Did Ed give a damn if Al slipped and fell into the deep water canals of that city in Episode 10 (Psiren)?
Did Ed give a damn of Al being soaked in the rain of episode 13?
Did Ed give a damn if Al might slip and fall into a lake later on(do you think metal is so good to walk on slippery rocks and mud)?
Nope, no one gave a damn of Al being exposed to water until one episode before a certain scene much, much later on.

QUOTE(ed's numbuh 1 fan @ Aug 29 2005, 10:33 PM)
epi6:in the episode preview's circle and Ed's transmutation circle for Nina there 2 different circle's (and i was wondering too how Ed made the water boil,he DID clap just not the way he usually does and he did'nt punch his fist in his hand he clasped his hands together.)
In the original Japanese TV series, he punched his fist into his hand dry.gif Only in the DVD and American broadcast did he have his palms being against each other.
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okay,okay sorry unsure.gif

well the water was waist deep and i'm sure Ed did care and they where'nt in the rain THAT long,besides the blood seal was on the interior back of his armor so the rain could'nt even touch it anyway. i really hate to flame it dosen't get anything done so i will rest my case sleep.gif


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