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Chapter 86 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Aug 10 2008, 03:48 AM
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First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 86 here. smile.gif

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I found this Summary on 2ch

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アルフォンスを呼ぶ声。逝くのはまだ早いというその主は、なまやさしい者ではなかった。

第86話「闇の使者」(カラー扉画:アル2体)

爆破現場からは、大統領の姿はいまだ見つからない。自らの目で死を確認するまでは…
という建前のもと中央には向かわないグラマン。汚れ仕事はロイやミラに押し付ける腹だ。
北軍もグラマンの手は読めているが、アルも行方不明とあってはどう動いたものやら。

アルの鎧をのっとりエドたちの前に現れたプライド。当座の目的はグリードの抹殺。
話も終わらぬうちに逃げるゴリさんたち。エドも逃げたいが背後はスラムのある方角。
やられっぱなしではいられないとエドが生み出したのは、月影すら映さない暗闇。
影を“映し出せなければ”プライドは攻撃できない。そこでグリードは……

やはり漆黒の闇に包まれたセリム。同じ条件なら相手も動けないはずと静観。
それが失敗だった。背後からハインケルの強襲に遭う。野生の目を計算してなかった。

動かなくなったアルが気になるエドだが、罠かもしれないとゴリさんに止められる。
スラムの明かりが戻るまでにハインケルがセリムを倒してくれればよし。
それはそうとグリードは居場所を知られたことを気にしていた。どうやって?
その答えはむこうからやってきた。においを辿り襲いかかるグラトニー。
ゴリさんの勘では確実性に欠け、明かりを点けてしまえばプライドの餌食。
そんな窮地こそ、リンがグリードから身体を奪い返すチャンスとなる。
リンならグラトニーの気配を察知できる。形勢逆転。
腹を立てたグラトニーが範囲攻撃をしかけようと腹を開くが、エドだけはそれが見えてない。
そこに。何者かの糸らしきものがグラトニーを包み切り裂く。
グラトニーも嗅いだことのあるそのにおいは、覆面に身を包んだランファンのもの。

アトヒキ:最強の従者ここに復活!!!

コメント(お題:夏に行きたい所を教えて下さい!)
大久保先生との合作表紙楽しかったです!!
夏に行きたい所はオホーツク流氷展示館に。



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post Aug 10 2008, 03:58 AM
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Thanks! waiting for translation ^^

Edit: the title of the chapter is something like "the messenger of the darkness".


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post Aug 10 2008, 05:41 AM
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Thank you, Aizen!

EDIT: Haha. I found a really confusing translation.

The voice that calls Alphonse. Loathing 早 yet to die false main was not a なま easy person.

The 86th conversation "the messenger of darkness" (a/the color door picture: a/the アル 2 body)

From the explosion scene, the figure of the president is not discovered yet. Until death is confirmed with the subjective eye..with it is グラマン that does not face in the base center of the theory where says. The dirt job is the abdomen that pushes against it to ロイ and mirror.
It is the one and ら that even アル moved how that be with missing, although even a/the north corps is able to read the hand of グラマン.

Of it is the pride that takes the armor of アル っ and appeared before エド. The purpose of for the time being be the erasure of greed.
It is Mr./ Ms. ゴリ that even the conversation escapes before end. Although even エド wants to escape the back be the direction that has the slum.
If be defeated and be not able to be without っぱ what エド brought forth be the darkness that even the moonlight does not project.
《主語なし》' If 'it is not able to project a/the shadow I am not able to attack pride. Thereupon, greed....

セリム that was wrapped to pitch-black darkness after all. If s/he is the same condition even a/the partner waits and sees as the intention that is not able to move.
That was a failure. 《主語なし》I encounter the assault of ハインケル from the back. The wild eye was not being calculated.

《主語なし》When it may be a trap, although アル that stopped moving is エド that is anxious about it is pinned on Mr./ Ms. ゴリ.
《主語なし》I stop it if ハインケル throws down セリム by the time the light of the slum returns.
It was worrying about that greed was known a/the quarters place with so. How do it?
The answer came from the other side. グラトニー that traces a/the smell and attack.
《主語なし》If be lacking in certain nature in the feeling of Mr./ Ms. ゴリ and have turned on a/the light it is the prey of pride.
Such a difficult situation becomes the chance that phosphor takes a/the body from greed and return.
《主語なし》If it is phosphor I am able to perceive the indication of グラトニー. Situation reversion.
Only エド is not seen that, although the abdomen is opened when グラトニー that got angry will set range attack.
It is there. The one that looks like a/the thread about whether what person wraps グラトニー completely and tear.
《主語なし》I smelled it the smell that even グラトニー has case it is the thing of the cullion fan that wrapped the body in a/the mask.

《主語なし》It revives here アトヒキ: the servant of strongest! ! !

Please instruct the place where wants to go in (a/the theme: summer a/the comment! 《主語なし》) It was enjoyable the joint work cover with Mr./ Ms. Okubo! !
The place where wants to go in summer in an/the Okhotsk floe exhibition mansion.


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post Aug 10 2008, 08:39 AM
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Thanks Winry chan. Yeah.... very confusing xD we'll have to wait for more spoilers and images ^^


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Thank you Aizen!!

(And, thank you Winry Chan for the "confusing" translation. ^^)

The translation of Chapter 86 Preview Summary (by a live person XD)

Chapter 86: Messenger from the Darkness
(As usual, this is a tentative title till I can read the whole raw chapter ^^)

Note: this month we are treated with TWO color pics of AL!!

Caption: There is a voice calling Al. The voice tells Al it is not time to die yet.
And, the source of that voice was no ordinary man... (Note: Wow, sounds so mysterious!! ^^)

Chapter 86: Messenger from the Darkness

The body of Führer hasn't been found yet from the explosion site.
General Grumman insists on confirming Führer's death himself by seeing his body, and hence he is not heading for Central...
Fact is, he is intending to push all the dirty works onto Mustang and Armstrong who are already in Central by not moving himself from East.
The Northern Army realizes what General Grumman is doing also, but with Al being missing, they haven't decided what move to take next.

Meantime...
Pride has taken over Al's armor and showed up in front of Ed and the gang. The immediate target is to murder and eliminate Greed.
Even before Pride ends his words Darīus and others run away.
Ed wants to run also, but the behind him is the slum town, and so he can't run that way and leading Pride toward the slum.

Ed can't stay kept being attacked... got to do something... and he devises the way to counter-attack. He create a pure darkness.. not even a dim light of moonlight exists, but the complete darkness where no light means no shadow....
And, if Pride can't project shadows, he can not attack...
So, Greed escapes the attack by Pride.

Selim is in the same total darkness. He calmly calculates that if in the same darkness, the opponents are also not being able to make a move. And so he calmly waits in the darkness.
He was wrong. Behind him is Heinkel and he attacks Selim with his keen eyes of the wild animal.

Al stops moving.
Ed is worried, but Darīus stops him from approaching Al, saying this might be a trap.
They're hoping that before the daylight come up Heinkel would take down Selim.
By the way, Greed mentions that he is wondering how Pride and the gang have learned where Greed was.
How??? The answer came, attacking the gang. Gluttony can smell and hence even attack in the total darkness.
Compare to Gluttony, Darīus''s wild eyes are lacking on precision in total darkness.
But, they can't bring back the light, else Pride would attack them.

Taking the benefit of this bad situation and confusion, Ling takes over his body back from Greed.
Ling can sense Gluttony and his move.
Now the situation is reversed and Ling gets upper-hand over Gluttony.

Gluttony gets mad and opens up his stomach. But Ed can't see this.
Then, someone in the darkness throws threads that cut down into Gluttony.
The smell of attacker is familiar to Gluttony.
The source of the smell is RanFan in a black mask!!

Closing caption: The most loyal and the most powerful subordinate returns!!!

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(End of chapter 86 summary)


As usual, I'll be back later to correct typos and whatnot. ^^


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post Aug 10 2008, 09:57 AM
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Thanks, Aizen!

And thanks for the slightly confusing translation, Winry Chan! xD

EDIT: Thanks for the translation, Tombow! It certainly looks like an interesting chapter, especially the beginning.
EDIT2: Oh, RanFan? Hell yes! :'D
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Ok, done translation of chapter 86 summary!!

And...

OMG!!!! RanFan fans... rejoice!!!!

I'm soooo excited to see her return!!!! biggrin.gif
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Thanks Aizen, Winry Chan, and Tombow!

YES!!! It's about time Ran Fan returned! And Ling is in control of his body! I'm looking forward to a reunion between the two. It's been WAY too long.

Can't wait for the RAW to catch a glimpse of Ran Fan's arm...if they show that...


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thanks to all!! wow!! i'm happy! Ran Fan at last!!!! thanks, as always ^^


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Is there going to be something key to her being so loyal? I too want to see her arm, since she appears to have adapted to it haha.

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Thank you to all who put up summaries and translations!

As much as I'm happy that RanFan's back, I'm also scared for her. I mean, I know she can handle herself, but the last time she tangled with the homunculi... didn't turn out so well. However, the way she and Ling can sense things is pretty handy, so I won't worry too much about her.

And YAY! Al's being told he can't die yet! So what can he do? Hang out where he is? Does that mean that he's kind of like Greed and Ling, only with Pride having absolutely forced his way in, without Al's consent?

Wow... Things are looking pretty tense here, and this is only the beginning, I'm sure. (Please, when all's said and done, may we not have an anti-climactic ending! *ducks from pitchfork-wielding mob screaming about JS's lack of belief*)



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Yay!! ^^

RanFan is back! \o/ Thanks Aizen, Winry Chan and Tombow!

Can't wait to read this chapter.


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Thank you Tombow, for a more accurate translation!! ^^

I'm so happy RanFan is back!!! I am interested to see her arm. Would it be automail? Another form of prosthesis found in Xing?

I will wait for RAW. ^^ This is almost as exciting as Chapter 81 when Ed returned.
Almost.

EDIT: Maybe the last page will be like this. XD


It took me 15 minutes to do, mainly because I couldn't find how to flip an image. @.@


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Ranfan~ yayness! thanks aizen, winry chan and tombow!

nya...is it me or does it feel like this chapter's so short?!
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It has 40 pages, so it's back to the good old standard amount of pages =D

(borrowing someone's comp to post)

Just gonna quickly post a few comments.

Ed's comment about Al makes me want to stone him. Rebellous stage? =_=; wtf
I totally went wtf at the first few pages too. Like WUT R J00 DOING TO ARU, DAMN PRIDE?!
and AWESOME, Ranfun is back <3 Her new arm is so cool! So I guess she has disappeared for 6 months (story-wise)? Ed should indeed be 16 (and Al be 15) by now.
Lin is back (temporarily) too! Awesome
and I love how the Lion dude beat the sh!t outta Pride.
I also love how action packed this chapter is. 40 pages is awesome although not a whole lot of content =D Action packed just feels exciting and hot-blooded and all =D

Gotta go, awesome chapter =D Too bad aru is still in great danger ;-;

Winry Chan can probably remover the attachment now since the real pic is out 8D;;; I was kinda shocked when I see bare chest w/ no boobs lol... took me a second to realize that it's actually Ed 8D;;


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