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Fma 50 - 9/25/2004, 1 to go... [SPOILERS]
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post Sep 24 2004, 09:09 PM
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lol, yes I was just about to shoot out the door yelling, "it's WWI, not II, people, STUDY HISTORY!!"

Thanks for correcting it for me.

If this new Ed is actually Envy, then something REALLY strange must have happened to change WW I to the FMA world that we know now.

When I heard about the plot twist in 49, I was a bit skeptical, but after watching it, am interested in how they will wrap all this up in 2 more eps.

But as for robo-Archer? rolleyes.gif

Never was a good idea, he looks SOOO lame! Especially when he has that ball turret popping out of his mouth, how does he eat? And what about his love life? blink.gif
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post Sep 24 2004, 09:55 PM
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I guess I'm really slow but when did they say Envy was Hohenheim's son?

It's definitely WWI. WWII is a bit later. Quite a bit later, actually. Been doing research. I wonder if Hohenheim will die...And what is Armstrong doing? I thought he was supposed to lead a rebellion against whatever personel is left in Central. Or at least create a load of distractions.

Is it just me, or is Roy suicidal? Knowing Pride is a homonculus and yet going on ahead anyway? Is revenge for Hughes getting to his head? Either he's going to die or something else bad happens to him or Hawkeye. Or maybe Roy actually has a plan instead of charging head on. Kidnap Selim? Would he really try that?

And then theres Al lying on an array...And then the revelation that Gluttony is supposed to eat Al.

Just ten or so more hours to wait before we find out all this...
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post Sep 25 2004, 12:16 AM
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400 years before fma's timeline? that means fma's time is 2300? lol now thats a weird idea XP

I suggest they/Al will use the p.stone to get Ed back to the "real" world..


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post Sep 25 2004, 04:55 AM
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Lets clear this up now.
WW1 - Europe 1914 - 1918 from what I remember fought almost entirely in Europe by Europians and their allies/current and ex-colonies (eg Aus, NZ.)
WW2 - Europe and the Pacific - 1939-1945 fought by Europe, America, Australia, NZ, Russia, Japan and several others. Ended in Europe when the Russians and British forced Germany to surrender, later when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed Japan surrendered.

FMA is almost certainly set in mainland Europe, for a start a lot of the names are of German or English origin or similar, plus the map shows no oceans. Also Ed going back to 20th century London. Though I don't think it's set in England, and the land (eg mountains) doesnt match up.
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post Sep 25 2004, 05:01 AM
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preview for episode 51:

http://mbs.jp/hagaren/bb/51ed.asx

^^ not that i didnt expected something like that wink.gif


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post Sep 25 2004, 05:36 AM
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Why do I only see a picture of Ed and fullmetal Archer??


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post Sep 25 2004, 05:45 AM
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dunno.

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too bad, Ed dies.


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post Sep 25 2004, 06:15 AM
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wait... are those from 50 or 51?!?! o__0


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post Sep 25 2004, 06:25 AM
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50.00


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post Sep 25 2004, 06:30 AM
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the transformations are envy yeah? who the hell is the middle guy wif the weird hair. or is it just messed up?
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post Sep 25 2004, 06:34 AM
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QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 25 2004, 12:45 PM)
dunno.

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too bad, Ed dies.

rough conclusion of important plots in ep.50

1)the energy for alchemy is cased from "dead lives of people in our world".
with this point of view, there is no equivelant exchange.
it needs more energy from other side of the gate.the enegies are lost lives of our world.

2)both world is different,(mainly with a direction of science) but have almost similer structure, so there is similer people in both side.
(there might be "Al"-like one somewhere)

3)"Ed"-like guy in London is not seemed a son of Hohenheim.it's still unclear thier relation.

4)Hohenheim said "Everyone have a gate in thier mind, by using this, one can go to the other side of the gate."

5)"Ed"-like guy might be dead, because zeppelin fired and falled down to him.
(at least injured. but i think he should be alive for the next epsode. it's still unclear)

6)(with someone's life?unknown but somehow ) Ed can go back from the gate to his original world.

7)Wrath was taken his (Ed's) arm and leg by the gate.He can't stand up any more.

8)Envy was homunculi of a son of Hohenheim and Dante.he died in an accident.
Hohenheim tried to transmute him but it faild. His face is simler with Hohenheim.

9)Envy thought that Hohenheim wasted him. that's why Envy hate Hohenheim.

10)at last. Envy killed Edward.

Al didn't nothing. Rose might be changed her mind.
Roy attacked Fuhrar, but thier fighting is still continue.

I will comment about some of RolfKaese's clip.

uppercenter)Envy transformed to Ed's acquaintance, such as Hughes, Trisia..
,to lose Ed's fighting spilit.
upperright) also transformation of Envy
lowercenter) Envy's true face. looks like young Hohenheim.
lowerright)finally Envy killed Edward.
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post Sep 25 2004, 07:32 AM
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well i guess that the guy with hair messed up is probably the real appearence of envy : blond guy that looks like a little to hohenheim.
The first time i watched i thought that sloth wasn't dead oO but if u look to the clothes u can see that they are her's.
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post Sep 25 2004, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 25 2004, 12:45 PM)
too bad, Ed dies.

Thanks for showing such great concern and compassion. rolleyes.gif

Maybe it's just me, but... that guy with the blonde hair looks disturbingly like Hohenheim. O_O And it's safe to say that I don't like this at all. What in the freck are they doing?!?

EDIT: sorry, Hym didn't see yur post there. biggrin.gif;; Envy?!

...now that I've taken a closer look at those images, it looks like Sloth is transforming into that blonde guy. O_oThat is, if you connect the pictures like that.


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post Sep 25 2004, 08:00 AM
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what an episode... NONONONONO FMA cant end next week !!!!!! >_____<;;;;;;;;;

anyway, a summary from what ive seen and guessed:

-behind the gate, ed dies because a zeppelin crushes into him.
-dante changes the behaviour of gluttony, he now is a freaking ape-like homunculus... u can compare him to EVA-01 Berserk Mode when he absorbed shinji-kun into his core...
-Dante opens the gate, wrath and envy standing before it.
-gate takes wrath /eds arm and leg behind the gate.
- envy sees edward coming from the other side of the gate , calling him (the first time i guess) "Edo".
- Fighting between Envy - Ed , envy changes form into Marcoh, Trisha, Hughes, Roy (that was too funny XD before roy, ed punched envy into his face which was first envy, then marcoh,hughes, even with the face of trisha ed hit him... but then roy. Ed smiling, saying something like that's what he was wished for so long and gives envy-roy a hard hit into the face XD
but then the face becomes like hohenheim(young), and Ed stops calling envy "hohenheim...".
then story about envy being son of dantexhohenheim, see posts above for that.
then Envy stabs Ed... large amount of blood coming out of him... Al is extremely shocked, he only says "nii-san..." and Roze's Eyes change back to normal called Ed's name like back in episode 41/42. the episode fades out with a zoom into ed's eye, which fades to black... like they always do in anime when a chara dies ^^U

so ed's supposed to be dead now... ;_;

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post Sep 25 2004, 08:14 AM
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Actually Envy tranformed to ...

Dr. Marcoh, Hughes, Trisha, and Roy.

to fight against Edward who just returned from the other side of the gate.
Envy want to disturb Ed's mind with forms of his friends/mother.
this is similer way when Envy killed Hughes.

But when Envy transformed to Roy's face,
Edward said "This face is the easiest one to beat !"

And then he said "show me your true face!"

so Envy transformed to his true face.
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