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Might Edward have the Napoleon Complex? Interesting Question, N'est Pas?, Ed's character being affected/influenced by being short
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post Oct 19 2006, 01:34 PM
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In the fields of psychology and psychoanalysis, Napoleon complex (or Napoleon syndrome) is a colloquial term used to describe a type of inferiority complex suffered by people who are short.


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Compensatory behavior exhibited by those with a Napoleon complex may also include being overly aggressive or argumentative and a need to over-achieve, which all serve to give the person a sense of greater self worth.



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post Oct 19 2006, 02:19 PM
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Yes that could be a possibility, but somtimes he can control his "problem". But if he didn't have a Napleon complex he may have not have done what he did.


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That is an interesting theory, Funderful.

I wonder if Arakawa was a psychology enthusiast at all? She very well *could* have used aspects of this theory in her development of Ed's character...

A lot of short guys I know are *definitely* more agressive/temperamental that my tall male friends. It's defintiely textbook "Napoleon Complex" material. It's as though they feel they need to overcompensate for their lack of stature in other ways (like driving badass cars, or being the loudest, drunkest guy at the bar yelling at the football game on the TV...) blink.gif


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Quite honestly, as a girl who very much enjoyed learning about Napoleon and who found him very interesting, this thought has crossed my mind before. Although I wasn't aware of an actual Napoleon complex in psychology...I just compared Ed to Napoleon because of their...'vertical difficulties'.

But I also compared Roy to Napoleon before, because Napoleon was known for his ambition. (Although, it was that ambition, along with his seemingly inability to sit still, that contributed to his downfall). Nevermind that Napoleon was known for being arrogant. After comparing both Ed and Roy to Napoleon, I figured that if you combined the two or something, you might get the good ol' French Emperor.



However, about Ed having a Napoleon Complex....I would say most definitely. The description of the complex fits Ed very well. (Although I'm not quite sure if he feels a need to over-achieve...)


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However, about Ed having a Napoleon Complex....I would say most definitely. The description of the complex fits Ed very well. (Although I'm not quite sure if he feels a need to over-achieve...)


Ed always tries to reach his goal, and he achieves what he sets his mind too.
I don't know if he tries, but he seems quite a bit like an over-achiever to me...
Not that that's always a bad thing.

Also, I think Fullmetal Alchemist may be based on the 'Napoleon and Gentle Giant' formula plot often used in television.
This often consists of a large, sentimental character (as in Alphonse), who is not always, but often dim-witted, and a short, more tempermental character, often more clever and cunning, "the brains of the outfit", who likes to be the one in charge, someone sort of hot headed.

This can be found in a number of cartoons and television shows worldwide, and I think Arakawa might have used it in her plot.
And although Al can be oblivious at times, he is by no means unintelligent or stupid.
That's why I'm referring to 'based'.

Of course, thats stated the obvious.
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QUOTE(Funderful @ Oct 19 2006, 04:41 PM) [snapback]462355[/snapback]

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However, about Ed having a Napoleon Complex....I would say most definitely. The description of the complex fits Ed very well. (Although I'm not quite sure if he feels a need to over-achieve...)


Ed always tries to reach his goal, and he achieves what he sets his mind too.
I don't know if he tries, but he seems quite a bit like an over-achiever to me...
Not that that's always a bad thing.

Eh, I have difficulties identifying over-achievers in the first place. I never completely understood the definition of an over-achiever. XD


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Well, I'm glad you guys find this interesting.
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I'd say that if Ed suffers from the Napoleon Complex, it would be to an extent.
He shares most of the symptoms.
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However, about Ed having a Napoleon Complex....I would say most definitely. The description of the complex fits Ed very well. (Although I'm not quite sure if he feels a need to over-achieve...)


Agreed. WHile he does make greater achivments than his peers that doesn't seem to concern him.


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I agree.
As I said, he does 'over-achieve' at times, but is not trying to.
It's not on purpose.
But, upon inspection of the first message, If I had to draw the conclusion now...
I'd say it's something Ed has.
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Wow im surprised it took less than 12 hours to reach a verdict! But do Napoleon Comlexes start in childhood or was it just sprung out of his character. Arakawa may have done this purpously or maybe Ed was inspired by someone she knew. But also if he never over acheved most of the things he did wouldn't of happened.


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Feh, That's my verdict. You can stew on it for a while.
Change my mind.
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Ed != megalomaniac

therefore

Ed != Napoleon.

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A very good theory and argument - personally I think that Arakawa "intentionally" had Edward be short so that he *could* act the way that he did - a character and story are nothing if you can't give them personalities and reasons for them to act the way that they do... Any writer worth their salt has at least a basic understanding of the human psyche, or at least they should - it adds more to their work to be able to understand the process of thought...


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Hm. Well Put, The New FMA.
Very well put.
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QUOTE(The New Fullmetal Alchemist @ Oct 19 2006, 09:04 PM) [snapback]462502[/snapback]
A very good theory and argument - personally I think that Arakawa "intentionally" had Edward be short so that he *could* act the way that he did - a character and story are nothing if you can't give them personalities and reasons for them to act the way that they do... Any writer worth their salt has at least a basic understanding of the human psyche, or at least they should - it adds more to their work to be able to understand the process of thought...
I agree!! Excellent post, The New Fullmetal Alchemist!! smile.gif


Just a minor question to Funderful: About the two quotes in the first post:
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In the fields of psychology and psychoanalysis, Napoleon complex (or Napoleon syndrome) is a colloquial term used to describe a type of inferiority complex suffered by people who are short.
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Compensatory behavior exhibited by those with a Napoleon complex may also include being overly aggressive or argumentative and a need to over-achieve, which all serve to give the person a sense of greater self worth.

Where are they from?? biggrin.gif
Would you like to includes the "source" of these quotes on the first post?? smile.gif


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