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“...the New Lust” [spoilers] In Episode 34, A couple of questions
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post Nov 13 2005, 10:22 PM
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I'm pretty confused my self about the 'old' Lust.


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post Nov 17 2005, 02:52 PM
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Okay, after watching the FMA special, some things were revealed.
There was only a 'old' Lust, no other formal Homunculus.
Greed's unmentioned past is revealed and why Dante performed human transmution on him.
And so forth...


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post Nov 17 2005, 04:05 PM
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blink.gif Well if there was an old lust I wonder what she looked like, since most of the Homunculus look like the people who the alchemist tried to bring back to life.


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post Nov 19 2005, 12:42 AM
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Your list is correct. x] Pride is 60 years old and Gluttony was created sometimes after Greed and before he was sealed. Since Gluttony freaked out when he saw the Seal, he was obviously there to see it happen.

People attempted human transmutations in the past. Also, when they say "Current Lust" (in my fansub anyway) They are somewhat disposable since "That person" can just remake them again as replacement.


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post Nov 20 2005, 06:42 PM
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Yes, there were other versions of the homonculi. The 'new Lust' is just the Lust that was created after the old one was killed.
My theory is that when a homonculus is killed, and a person performs a human transmutation, that homonculus that was killed is replaced by the one made in the transmutation.
So if there was a previous Sloth, and she died, then Ed and Al's failed transmutation was the replacement.

Ages of the homonculi are (from what i know) as follows(note, this info is for the anime not the manga):
Envy: 400+, created by Hohenheim Elric
Greed: 160-ish, created by Dante
Gluttony: Unknown
Pride: 60, created by Dante
Lust: 8 years old, created by Scar's brother
Wrath: apprximatley the same age (?), was created by Izumi-sensei
Sloth: 4-5 years old, created by Edward and Alphonse Elric

The homonculi's ages depend upon how many years ago they were created, not how old they were when they were 'alive'
Their appearance, however, looks similiar to their human bodies, and will grow and age until fed the incomplete philosophers stones. After they eat them, they turn evil...
For instance: Wrath grew up on the island, and was about the age of 8 when Envy fed him the stones. After that, he turned evil and stopped growing. but he also gained complete imortallity.

Sorry if any of this info is confuzing or incorrect. i drew a lot of it from my own assumptions.


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post Nov 20 2005, 06:48 PM
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Envy: Over 400 years old... cute but still old...
Greed: 200 years old, sealed 140 years ago
Gluttony: somewhere between 200~140 years ago. he was present when Greed was sealed. Thus fearing the seal and Greed himself.
Pride- 60 years old, homunculus that ages
Lust: 20~10 years ago (During the Ishbal Civil War) Scar was still a kid when his brother made Lust
Wrath- Izumi Sensei created 10 years ago
Sloth: 4~5 years ago by the Elric brothers.


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post Jul 14 2006, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(The Krazy one @ Nov 20 2005, 08:48 PM) [snapback]317715[/snapback]

Envy: Over 400 years old... cute but still old...
Greed: 200 years old, sealed 140 years ago
Gluttony: somewhere between 200~140 years ago. he was present when Greed was sealed. Thus fearing the seal and Greed himself.
Pride- 60 years old, homunculus that ages
Lust: 20~10 years ago (During the Ishbal Civil War) Scar was still a kid when his brother made Lust
Wrath- Izumi Sensei created 10 years ago
Sloth: 4~5 years ago by the Elric brothers.


Wow! You got that pretty much right! happy.gif


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post Aug 19 2006, 11:28 AM
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I don't know much but, I saw the chapter in japanese with spanish subtitles and it only says -And I am Lust-and in chapter 31 I think, when Envy presents Sloth to Greed, he also said that Lust exists too, and so the seven were completed... or something of that kind, but it is true that :

Envy is the oldest of all (because of being son of Dante and Hohenheim)
Greed could have been the second but I don't know nothing about Gluttony's past, and there's the matter.
Pride is being used to control the military.
Lust is in someway, more human than she thinks, she even corrected Sloth's saying when they talked about Tucker and Nina... but what the heck, I am talking too much, so....

Maybe there was a matter of talking when translating the idiom, I dunno, but well...


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